Guest LadyC Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 if the teacher instructs the child to present their questions to their parents, and the rest of the children start voicing their opinions, the teacher should shut the conversation down and get back to the task of teaching whatever kindergarten teachers are responsible for teaching. PERIOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansasdad Posted July 19, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,227 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/19/1964 Share Posted July 19, 2007 if the teacher instructs the child to present their questions to their parents, and the rest of the children start voicing their opinions, the teacher should shut the conversation down and get back to the task of teaching whatever kindergarten teachers are responsible for teaching. PERIOD. OH so the teacher is in charge not the children..........What a concept Wow we do think alike....scarry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forrestkc Posted July 19, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 114 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,015 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/15/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2007 Families look different today than they did a generation ago. Children unfortunately are presented with a great deal more sex and violence in our culture than they were a generation ago. Like it or not, these subjects are going to come up in elementary schools. In most cities, in any given classroom in America, there are biracial children, children of different cultures and ethnicities, kids with single parents, kids with same sex parents, and adopted kids. In these communities, these subjects are going to come up in the classroom. It is better for communities to establish standards on what is age appropriate and how these issues should be addressed in the classroom, than to have teachers to simply wing it or even worse, for the kids to wing it and come up with their own ideas. If you don't want your children to be exposed to this in anyway, then move to a community where everyone looks, thinks, and lives just like you. There are plenty of them out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 if the teacher instructs the child to present their questions to their parents, and the rest of the children start voicing their opinions, the teacher should shut the conversation down and get back to the task of teaching whatever kindergarten teachers are responsible for teaching. PERIOD. OH so the teacher is in charge not the children..........What a concept Wow we do think alike....scarry i'm not sure if you're using sarcasm or if you really think we're in agreement LOL. but let me clarify.... if not to you, than to forrestkc yes, the teacher is in charge of the children, no, the teacher is not in charge of teaching them about sex, or "families with two mommies", or anything of the sort. a teacher who is in charge of the children would put her foot down and say "this is not going to be discussed at school". EDIT: ahhh, i misread your first sentence the first time through, i see you really were in agreement! sorry, i thought you'd said 'so the teacher is not in charge of the children' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted July 19, 2007 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Families look different today than they did a generation ago. Children unfortunately are presented with a great deal more sex and violence in our culture than they were a generation ago. Like it or not, these subjects are going to come up in elementary schools. In most cities, in any given classroom in America, there are biracial children, children of different cultures and ethnicities, kids with single parents, kids with same sex parents, and adopted kids. In these communities, these subjects are going to come up in the classroom. It is better for communities to establish standards on what is age appropriate and how these issues should be addressed in the classroom, than to have teachers to simply wing it or even worse, for the kids to wing it and come up with their own ideas. If you don't want your children to be exposed to this in anyway, then move to a community where everyone looks, thinks, and lives just like you. There are plenty of them out there. of course the subjects are going to come up in school. that doesn't mean the teacher has to allow the discussion to continue. again, the community standard for what is age appropriate should be "ask your parents". it's that simple. you scored 'socialism' on that morality quiz, didn't you? i think that was you. i was glad you posted that... it helped me to understand a little better why you think the way you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoMike Posted July 19, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 499 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/21/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/27/1964 Share Posted July 19, 2007 If you don't want your children to be exposed to this in anyway, then move to a community where everyone looks, thinks, and lives just like you. There are plenty of them out there. Finally, you are making sense. I hasten to add, I say that with my tongue in my cheek, but that's not bad advice for many reasons. One of the reasons I would NEVER send a child of mine to any public school has nothing to do with race or religion but everything to do with keeping my child from being exposed secular relativism for as long as possible. I have no fear of a person's color or language or race or even their particular belief system. But children at the elementary level need moral, ethical and religious teaching from their parents, not some teacher I don't know who believes all faiths and all three sexes are equal. Your ideology is insidious because it sounds so good until a person realizes that the mind of a child will absorb any information it has poured in there. It doesn't care if the information is good or bad and a child can't tell the difference. And apparently neither can many adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forrestkc Posted July 19, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 114 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,015 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/15/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2007 Families look different today than they did a generation ago. Children unfortunately are presented with a great deal more sex and violence in our culture than they were a generation ago. Like it or not, these subjects are going to come up in elementary schools. In most cities, in any given classroom in America, there are biracial children, children of different cultures and ethnicities, kids with single parents, kids with same sex parents, and adopted kids. In these communities, these subjects are going to come up in the classroom. It is better for communities to establish standards on what is age appropriate and how these issues should be addressed in the classroom, than to have teachers to simply wing it or even worse, for the kids to wing it and come up with their own ideas. If you don't want your children to be exposed to this in anyway, then move to a community where everyone looks, thinks, and lives just like you. There are plenty of them out there. of course the subjects are going to come up in school. that doesn't mean the teacher has to allow the discussion to continue. again, the community standard for what is age appropriate should be "ask your parents". it's that simple. you scored 'socialism' on that morality quiz, didn't you? i think that was you. i was glad you posted that... it helped me to understand a little better why you think the way you do. Actually, I scored Civil Libertarian / Moderate Socialism. The socialism I guess came from my view that we collectively have a responsibility toward providing a safety net for the impoverished, children, and seniors. The civil libertarian was my views on personal freedom. I think its a fine line. Teachers should not go into any detail at all, but they are not always going to be able to simply dismiss it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColleenLovesMischief Posted July 19, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,791 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/21/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/13/1977 Share Posted July 19, 2007 This concept is jsut insane....This happens I will pull my kids out of public schools. My son alkready thinks I can even snd him to his room because of what the school taught him about abuse...*sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zceiv Posted July 19, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 37 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 482 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/01/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/02/1991 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Families look different today than they did a generation ago. Children unfortunately are presented with a great deal more sex and violence in our culture than they were a generation ago. Like it or not, these subjects are going to come up in elementary schools. In most cities, in any given classroom in America, there are biracial children, children of different cultures and ethnicities, kids with single parents, kids with same sex parents, and adopted kids. In these communities, these subjects are going to come up in the classroom. It is better for communities to establish standards on what is age appropriate and how these issues should be addressed in the classroom, than to have teachers to simply wing it or even worse, for the kids to wing it and come up with their own ideas. If you don't want your children to be exposed to this in anyway, then move to a community where everyone looks, thinks, and lives just like you. There are plenty of them out there. of course the subjects are going to come up in school. that doesn't mean the teacher has to allow the discussion to continue. again, the community standard for what is age appropriate should be "ask your parents". it's that simple. you scored 'socialism' on that morality quiz, didn't you? i think that was you. i was glad you posted that... it helped me to understand a little better why you think the way you do. Actually, I scored Civil Libertarian / Moderate Socialism. The socialism I guess came from my view that we collectively have a responsibility toward providing a safety net for the impoverished, children, and seniors. The civil libertarian was my views on personal freedom. I think its a fine line. Teachers should not go into any detail at all, but they are not always going to be able to simply dismiss it either. What does system stand for again? Here is the link: http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.as...amp;choice=Long Take the test and post your results. Here are mine: Your Score Your scored -1 on the Moral Order axis and 1.5 on the Moral Rules axis. Matches The following items best match your score: 1. System: Socialism 2. Variation: Moderate Socialism 3. Ideologies: Social Democratism 4. US Parties: No match. 5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (85.18%) 6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (82.18%), Ralph Nader (77.79%), George W. Bush (60.91%) Statistics Of the 342437 people who took the test: 1. 0.9% had the same score as you. 2. 30.9% were above you on the chart. 3. 62.3% were below you on the chart. 4. 40.8% were to your right on the chart. 5. 51.1% were to your left on the chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinM Posted July 19, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 144 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,512 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 625 Days Won: 10 Joined: 04/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/07/1979 Share Posted July 19, 2007 Actually, I scored Civil Libertarian / Moderate Socialism. The socialism I guess came from my view that we collectively have a responsibility toward providing a safety net for the impoverished, children, and seniors. The civil libertarian was my views on personal freedom. Whose personal freedom are you talking about? A child should be raised with limited personal freedoms, until that child is old enough to understand them. A teacher shouldn't have the personal freedom to teach anything that doesn't relate to the lesson plan. That's indoctrination and steps beyond the boundaries the state has established for education. I think its a fine line. Teachers should not go into any detail at all, but they are not always going to be able to simply dismiss it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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