The History Channel's "UFOs and the Bible"

[Stephen]

I should have known. When the History Channel said that it was going to do a program on "UFOs and

       the Bible"(last night), I should have known that they would say that God and angels in the Bible were really

       extraterrestrials rather than the truth that aliens were the fallen angels mentioned in the Bible(Genesis

       6:2-4,Jude 6-7,2Peter 2:4-5).How naieve of me. I was told that Christians Guy Malone and Mike

       Heiser and Hugh Ross were interviewed to counteract the prevailing thesis, but all of their Godly

       message was edited out. Each had only a couple of short phrases that were taken out of context. When

       I did my live interview on Nov.27,2002 with Jim Hickman on UFOs and the Bible, I knew that the

       audience wanted me to say that angels/God were really aliens but I stuck to my guns and said that aliens

       were really fallen angels. That is the beauty of live broadcasts. They cannot edit you out or twist your

       words as happened to Ross and Malone last night. Hesier was apparently edited out completely. These

       are good, Godly, men and I am sure they are not pleased with the outcome.

       It was amazing to see how their resident experts, Dr. Barry Downing, a Presbyterian Minister and author

       and author Patrick Cook tried to explain every supernatural event in the Bible, from the Exodus to the

       giving of the Torah to the destruction of Sodom and Gemorrah to the transfiguration of Christ as an alien

       encounter. It takes more faith to believe that nonsense than it does to believe in the word of God. God

       chose the Jewish people as His own and guided and protected them as revealed in Scripture. Why

       would some alien race choose the Jews and protect and guide them. Talk about blind faith!

       They also quoted a Vatican theologian who wrote that UFOs are real and friendly! Talk about the one

       world Church.They concluded that since there is no hard evidence of UFOs it is a matter of faith just like

       religion. That is correct. You can put yuor trust in a loving God or in a alien. Duh!

[Stephen]

Guy Malone's response to my critique of the History channel!

Stepehn

Right you are Dr Yulish, they had an agenda. I plan to write this experience up as an article to show

       Hollywood's intentional bias to portray the alien agenda as a beneficial to mankind. They did edit out my

       responses entirely. What they have me saying on the show was basically me re-stating the question, as

       instructed by the producer/interviewer, to frame and give context to my answer (not depicted). At least I

       had the foresight to post the transcript from my interview on my site ( www.alienresistance.org ) and you

       can see in questions 1 & 2 exactly where they cut me off in mid-sentence, before getting to y response.

       They also completely left out my "rebuttal" to the aliens are angels tripe they spent a good deal of time

       on. And yes, Mike was completely edited out. While small consolation, I wrote him that at least he has

       his integrity, in that he didn't give them anything that could be depicted out of context. And I know from

       Dr Ross's extensive apologetics work that he would not have wanted his words to be used to promote

       their ideas either.

       Charisma, Crosswalk, and other Christian news agencies will hear from me on this soon enough.

       Hopefully they will be willing to run an article depicting History Channel's willing distortion of the

       interview to promote their "UFOs in the Bible" thesis. It serves the kingdom in that I was at least on it,

       and have had my interview and answers posted online for almost a year, which backs up the claim that

       they grossly distorted my responses.

       God Bless,

       Guy Malone

[Karen C.]

So do you think the "New Church" of compromise has been installed with all deceptions in place? I do..

Powerless, Godless doctrine of demons...

In CHRIST, Karen

[Catsmeow]

You   know what Hollywood thinks of Christianity...

These stations are all in somebody's pocket. They're not interested in  truth. I didn't watch the show purposely because I suspected as much.

They always try to portray Christians as moronic, superstitious idiots. How rare to see our faith portrayed in it's truth and glory...

[Ovedya]

I agree, Cats.  But what can you expect from the world?  Sign O' the times, dear sister....

In the words of an anonymously quoted bumber sticker: KILL YOUR TELEVISION.

[refugepsa91]

I also watched the special on HC and I have to say I spent most of my time closing my mouth when my jaw would drop

You are right when you say it is a sign of the times....all I know if any UFO's land in my vincinity I will be running in the other direction!!

Deception is everywhere and maybe I should go "kill my television"....I like that one :thumb:

Love and Blessings

Angel H.

[Karen C.]

Stephen~ I didn't get to see it... :blush:

I have turned my TV off along time ago... But I do look for these productions...

I watched "Taken" only because I wanted to see "HOW" they were gonna explain away these intrusions.

Do they re-run these things?

in Christ, Karen

[Guest shadow2b]

Stephen~ I didn't get to see it... :blush:

I have turned my TV off along time ago... But I do look for these productions...

I watched "Taken" only because I wanted to see "HOW" they were gonna explain away these intrusions.

Do they re-run these things?

in Christ, Karen

yeppppppp coming back on saturday or sunday night same

bat-station--same bat-time---      

      never-give-in-never-give-in-never-give-in-

                          peace,love,joy-----

                          SHALOM

                           shadow2b

[Biscuit]

I am in a yahoo group which Guy Malone belongs to. Here is what he sent us about this topic:

Thanks for watching guys. This is going to Christian News agencies;Charisma's senior editor gets first crack as he helped me flush out Ross's comments by contacting him also. Quite a piece of investigative journalism, if I may so so!

History Channel Special Distorts Christian Interviews to

Promote "Alien Agenda"

Tuesday January 28, the History Channel premiered "UFOs in the Bible," a program featuring several "ufologists," authors and ministers. All apparently argued that most of the supernatural occurrences in the Bible represent the activity of alien spacecraft, citing Ezekiel's wheel, Elijah's ascension and Moses' "fire by night" as primary examples. The program's opening dialog even suggests that God himself is merely an advanced extra-terrestrial being, rather than supernatural deity. However, at least two of those appearing on the program have come forth to state publicly that the program

deliberately misrepresented their views. Rather than airing their actual responses to the proposed ideas, both feel that they were wrongfully depicted as affirming these theories.

Dr. Hugh Ross, astronomer, and president of Reasons to Believe, says in a written statement that he has appeared on over 10 secular (non-Christian) documentaries, but "This is the first time that I was quoted completely out of context, in a way that conveyed the opposite of what I believe." Guy Malone of Roswell New Mexico's Alien Resistance, states that he "strongly objects" to the program's out of context depiction of his views. "The two times I appear in the show,

all that aired was me restating their questions as a sentence - at the producer's instruction - but my answers (not shown) were actually rebuttals to their "UFOs in the Bible" theme." Malone adds that producer Gabe Vandervort e-mailed him a list of questions, which he typed out his answers to and rehearsed before the interview, then posted these answers on his website nearly a year ago. "Comparing my airtime to the History Channel Q&A on my site, you can see where they

cut me off in mid-sentence, just as the "but" and "so." were coming."

While Dr. Ross did not likewise prepare a transcript, he states that Reasons to Believe staff member Robert Bontrager was present with him during the interview. Both affirm that during the 2-3 hour-long interview, Ross ".made it abundantly and repeatedly clear that I did not agree with the thesis of the televised documentary." Nonetheless,his comments appear directly after the narrator implies that the biblical account of Sodom and Gomorra's destruction was merely a myth "to reinforce the importance of piety" (from the narration). The

show also postulates that perhaps the cities were destroyed by nuclear weapons from a UFO. As with Malone, Ross feels that he was wrongly depicted as agreeing with the show's premises. He cites that his own book on UFOs and two other television documentaries which he has appeared on ". establish that my views on UFOs contradict what

the History Channel broadcast promulgated."

At least two other Christian experts in ufology were flown to Los Angeles and interviewed by Weller-Grossman Studios for the program, but were left completely out of the final version aired by the network. Ph.D. candidate Michael Heiser holds an Ivy League master's degree in Ancient History, and one from another university in the Hebrew Bible, as well as maintaining "a life-long interest in UFOs and the paranormal." Heiser says "I called my contact at WGS, and told them up front (based on a slant in the questions) that if they

interviewed me, they would not get the answers they evidently wanted.

I was told this was no problem, since they wanted to give all sides to the issue." The final product however, included no opposing or alternate (orthodox) material, despite the combined hours of tape left on the cutting room floor. Thus Heiser has now added a series of spirited challenges to his website. He asks the History Channel to ". demonstrate where the show "UFOs in the Bible" actually represents real history and sound historical methodology" and asks Weller-

Grossman "to actually produce a show on these same topics with credentialed biblical scholars being substantially featured." His editorial charges that the program displays "wholesale, gutless censorship" and asks the producers "Why is it that, in a show about

UFOs and the BIBLE the only person interviewed with recognized graduate credentials in the Hebrew Bible and all the related ancient languages was excluded from the show?"

Heiser continues that he "can demonstrate from these texts, using sound scholarly methods and resources, that the ancient astronaut idea is an intellectual dogpile." He also proposes a televised public debate between himself and any other ufologist "who rapes the Biblical texts," which he will attend "any time, any place."

Noted theologian Chuck Missler was also interviewed by Weller-Grossman, but despite his best-selling book and video series on UFOs and the Bible, was apparently also deemed unfit for the televised version of History Channel's "UFOs in the Bible." He did however, appear briefly on another W-G / HC production the same week - "UFO Hot Spots" - in which he affirmed that show's premise by stating "there's something going on there that's beyond our understanding," referring to the construction of the Pyramids of Giza. He was not however, given any airtime regarding his published

opinions on UFOs and their possible Biblical origins. Neither was his organization (Koinonia House) - nor Guy Malone's (Alien Resistance) - listed along with his name on his television appearance. This despite the inclusion of other guest's affiliations, such as the "Center for

Inquiry" and "Enlightened Contact with Extra-Terrestrial

Intelligence." Malone suspects that this was to prevent interested viewers from being able to easily find his or Missler's websites, only to find out that their work actually exposes and rebuts the statements made by the program - or especially the true answers Malone posted to the specific questions asked of him.

"The show's other guests, Patrick Cooke, Chris Montgomery and Presbyterian minister Barry Downing (who were awarded the monopoly of airtime) were listed as "authors," Malone says. "But the rest of us (Ross, Heiser, Missler and himself) all have books on this topic as well, which went unmentioned on the UFOs in the Bible show.

Apparently someone's pet doctrine prevailed, and they did not want to give the public the opportunity to find out that the show's big ideas were really old hat to most of us. We can refute this stuff in our sleep - which is exactly what we did in our interviews." The overall effect of the program's "obviously biased, and obviously heretical presentation" Malone says, is that "far too many viewers are now considering the idea that God is really just an advanced ET. They were not given alternative explanations by this mockumentary, or allowed to hear what those equipped to refute the program's seriously

flawed premises actually had to say."

Malone is currently gathering other comments from the show's "edited" guests, and considering organizing a formal joint protest to the network. "We all thought we were being flown in and interviewed to at least round-out the show's statements, like most balanced documentaries do. Apparently, we were taken to the cleaners. They used my and Ross' clips out of context, splicing them in to affirm the show's views, but not representing our own by any means - and leaving the other guys out entirely, who I guess just didn't give them anything they could easily misrepresent. I feel vindicated at

least, because I know what I said, despite how they portrayed my words. But I am saddened at the number of people who are going to accept the show without question, since the History Channel is an assumed authority. This will likely keep many "seeking" people from saving faith, or any hope of ever understanding the Bible correctly.

"While the damage is mostly done, the unbalanced, shoddy journalism does need to be addressed. The show has already re-run once, and the History Channel needs to decide whether its ethical or even wise of them to continue to run it, given the statements by those of us interviewed. It makes people in the know think the network has been bought out by the Raelians. They also need to decide whether to continue to work with a production company that would produce

something so slanted, and whether they're going to remain silent, or make a public apology for such a bad slip-up. The integrity of their network really is at stake here."

In an attempt to set the record straight, Malone and Heiser are formalizing their summer plans to hold a conference in Roswell New Mexico, where Christian speakers will air their views on UFO related topics. Given the situation, Dr. Ross has been invited to add on to the six speakers currently planned, and, Malone adds, ".the History Channel is welcome to tape it."

Related websites: Mike Heiser, facadenovel.com ; Guy Malone, alienresistance.org ; Chuck Missler, khouse.org ;   Dr Hugh Ross, reasons.org

[martyr]

I agree totally that television networks tend to blaspheme God, but I am confused about the original post's description of an alien as a fallen angel.  Is this Biblical, and where can I find it?