Hvnly1Rose Posted April 19, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 290 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 43 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/05/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/23/1967 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Good post Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mscoville Posted May 3, 2004 Share Posted May 3, 2004 There is no such thing as a "good" person. There can be no morality without God (religion). ~ Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerran Posted May 3, 2004 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 335 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/13/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/27/1975 Author Share Posted May 3, 2004 There is no such thing as a "good" person. There can be no morality without God (religion). ~ Martin If this is the case then what makes an act moral? If you do something merely because you fear retribution or reprisal does that make the you truly moral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mscoville Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 I think an act is moral that is in accord with the law of God. None of us are moral people. Even if we are saved and follow God's law, we're righteous in his sight, but not moral, we're still sinners. Only God is moral. Our Moral laws flow from the nature of his being. He is necessarily moral just as he necessarily exists. Why does it matter if you follow the law because of fear or because you love God? Neither would make you moral, our nature is evil. After we're clothed with righteousness we're still possessing that sin nature. What is your stance Cerran? ~ Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted May 5, 2004 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 4 Topic Count: 232 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 7,261 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 79 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/19/1959 Share Posted May 5, 2004 There is no such thing as a "good" person. There can be no morality without God (religion). ~ Martin If this is the case then what makes an act moral? If you do something merely because you fear retribution or reprisal does that make the you truly moral? What if we do good in God's eyes and not do evil out of a LOVE for God? Why do you fear Cerran? Love NOT fear should be our focus, which is to please the Spirit. [Galatians chapters 5 and 6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerran Posted May 5, 2004 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 22 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 335 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/13/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/27/1975 Author Share Posted May 5, 2004 I don't fear, I'm merely pointing out that if you do something because you want reward or fear reprisal it is not a moral act. A truly moral act can only be known when you don't really want to do it, but you do it anyway because you know it is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mscoville Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Howdy Cerran, A truly moral act can only be known when you don't really want to do it, but you do it anyway because you know it is right. I disagree. Any act that follows Gods law is moral, whether you fear or love. I confess that I do both. I do fear God and Love God. That's a good thing, if good exists. ~ Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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