patricia1 Posted March 29, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,858 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/23/1957 Share Posted March 29, 2008 hello...I see you there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwing Posted March 29, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 400 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 1,903 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/19/1942 Share Posted March 29, 2008 A right knowledge of the Scripture, as the fountain whence all revealed religion now flows, and the foundation on which it is built, is the best preservative against error. Christ put aside the objection of the Sadducees, who were the scoffing infidels of that day, by setting the doctrine of the future state in a true light. The relation between husband and wife, though appointed in the earthly paradise, will not be known in the heavenly one. It is no wonder if we confuse ourselves with foolish errors, when we form our ideas of the world of spirits by the affairs of this world of sense. It is absurd to think that the living God should be the portion and happiness of a man if he is for ever dead; and therefore it is certain that Abraham's soul exists and acts, though now for a time separate from the body. Those that deny the resurrection greatly err, and ought to be told so. Let us seek to pass through this dying world, with a joyful hope of eternal happiness, and of a glorious resurrection. (Mk 12:28-34) matthew henry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcat Posted March 29, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 185 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/26/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1972 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 Hi Redwing, Thanks for your thoughts on this. A right knowledge of the Scripture, as the fountain whence all revealed religion now flows, and the foundation on which it is built, is the best preservative against error. Christ put aside the objection of the Sadducees, who were the scoffing infidels of that day, by setting the doctrine of the future state in a true light. The relation between husband and wife, though appointed in the earthly paradise, will not be known in the heavenly one. It is no wonder if we confuse ourselves with foolish errors, when we form our ideas of the world of spirits by the affairs of this world of sense. It is absurd to think that the living God should be the portion and happiness of a man if he is for ever dead; and therefore it is certain that Abraham's soul exists and acts, though now for a time separate from the body. Those that deny the resurrection greatly err, and ought to be told so. Let us seek to pass through this dying world, with a joyful hope of eternal happiness, and of a glorious resurrection. (Mk 12:28-34) matthew henry. Bold mine, I agree that it would appear that, based upon Christ's words there is no marriage of marrying in heaven. I am assuming you are referring to the account in Matthew 12. Is that right? However, I certainly don't think we forget past relationships or the people we knew. In other words, I don't think we get spiritual amnesia. Do you? Respectfully, Mudcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricia1 Posted March 29, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,858 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/23/1957 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Well one main purpose for marraige was to multiply. Then for companionship and to know God. In heaven there is no need to multiply or have relations. And we already have our relationship with Our Lord. We will know who everyone is. Being there did not decrease who I was as a woman... and my concerns were still for those on Earth. Yet also there will be no more sickness, tears and so forth. I douct ther is any being here who knows what that is going to be like. Even a newborn cries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcat Posted March 29, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 185 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/26/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1972 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 Being there did not decrease who I was as a woman... and my concerns were still for those on Earth. Hey Patricia, Bold mine, you seem to speak of heaven in a past tense here, as though you had already been. I am not sure I am understanding you, have had a NDE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grungekid Posted March 29, 2008 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 660 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/01/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1990 Share Posted March 29, 2008 What if our gender has some kind of tie to our soul? Is it possible that parts of our soul that correspond to gender survive with us into eternity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricia1 Posted March 29, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,858 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/23/1957 Share Posted March 29, 2008 It will depend on how one views the Christian condition.human spiritmindbodysoul or mindbodysoul.Our body the flesh is dead and not needed! But the uniquiness of who we are..., God knew us before us being in our mothers womb, does not die. The soul becomes regenerated, I think the soul and mind are the same...some do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcat Posted March 30, 2008 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 185 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/26/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1972 Author Share Posted March 30, 2008 What if our gender has some kind of tie to our soul? Is it possible that parts of our soul that correspond to gender survive with us into eternity? I believe in a perfected resurrected human body. Isn't that what Christ had when he ascended? God made you one of two sexes, I don't think death, nor the second coming changes the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerioke Posted March 30, 2008 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 97 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,850 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 128 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/19/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/11/1911 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Since we will not need to procreate in Heaven , i9 can't see why genders would be neccessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricia1 Posted March 30, 2008 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 44 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,858 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/23/1957 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Israel is a she, as well is the bride although men are included in the brideship. We are given new bodies that are perfect. But what of who we are remains within that body? I have the question out to a number of pastors from different walks of christianity and if they come up with a great scrptural answer I will here from them. They are pondering some just say ther do not know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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