artsylady Posted June 3, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 171 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,813 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 150 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 3, 2004 What would you say about praying a prayer 10 times to be forgiven, or parroting back the scriptures without questioning them why they happen? I've never prayed like that. I don't parrot scriptures without knowing their meaning. Why did God create Satan when God knew Satan would be bad? Now that's one we won't know. We accept that we WILL eventually know. Why? No, you are not allowed to ask why because "why" is not part of religion. Read the Bible. Many have asked 'why'. God knew we'd be asking about our origins. He created us that way. And He told us about our origins. Another one would be, how do we know the bible is the word of God? That's an easy, but extremely lengthy answer. Because it says it in the bible? No, much more than that. I guess it is not allowed to ask why to such circular reasoning. Check out 'wisdom', 'knowledge' and 'understanding' in the Bible sometime. These are things God wants us to have and encourages us to ask for. And back to science and their lack of philisophical reasoning, it's a darn shame that creationists can't get a word in edgewise with these folks without ridicule. If their theories were so out of wack, then why not publicly debate them and put them to shame? Because the Creationists will win! And they know it! That's why they won't debate them! There are scientists who believe in evolution, scientists who believe in Creation, and scientists who believe in neither. And intelligent design is gaining in popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Timer Posted June 3, 2004 Group: Soapbox - Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1932 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 I think we have strayed a bit from the theme of this topic so just to mention another benefit of evolution; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 3, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 624 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/20/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 3, 2004 As we have stated before Old Timer, they are theories and they change as new information is found. Such is human knowledge, we change our ideas of how things work as new information presents itself. 500 years ago christians thought a Lunar eclipse was an evil omen, today they know better. The pursuit of studying evolution has spawned a lot of good scientific ofshoots thet are heavily used today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Timer Posted June 3, 2004 Group: Soapbox - Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1932 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 Another evolutionary blessing is how the media is always eager to present both sides of the evolution/creation debate. NPR, funded by taxpayers, is notorious for this. In this news story they censored a guest who was critical of evolution. Good for them! Let Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 3, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 624 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/20/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 3, 2004 Old Timer this is hardly new, I've heard christian programs do the same exact thing. It doesn't make either side that is doing it right. I'm all up for a good debate, but if you're going to debate on scientific terms then you have to present good scientific evidence. Quoting the bible doesn't work in a scientific debate, neither does quoting 50 year old evidence when there is new research on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsylady Posted June 4, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 171 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,813 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 150 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 4, 2004 Quoting the bible doesn't work in a scientific debate, neither does quoting 50 year old evidence when there is new research on the subject This is not the reason that evolutionists will not debate creation scientists. The reason they won't debate is because they know they will lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsylady Posted June 4, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 171 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,813 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 150 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 4, 2004 Quoting the bible doesn't work in a scientific debate, neither does quoting 50 year old evidence when there is new research on the subject This is not the reason that evolutionists will not debate creation scientists. The reason they won't debate is because they know they will lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Strservant Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 Quoting the bible doesn't work in a scientific debate, neither does quoting 50 year old evidence when there is new research on the subject This is not the reason that evolutionists will not debate creation scientists. The reason they won't debate is because they know they will lose. I like it!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 5, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 624 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/20/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2004 This is not the reason that evolutionists will not debate creation scientists. The reason they won't debate is because they know they will lose. I've yet to see a creationist debate a evolutionist on equal footing. Besides, creation isn't science, it's faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsylady Posted June 5, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 171 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,813 Content Per Day: 0.64 Reputation: 150 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/26/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2004 I've yet to see a creationist debate a evolutionist on equal footing. Besides, creation isn't science, it's faith. Both theories require a certain amount of faith. Evolution IMO requires much, much more. Just because the majority of scientists believe in it, doesn't make it true. I don't have faith in scientists. Maybe you do. Maybe you have faith in the scientific community. I don't. You are aware of the fact that there are scientists who believe in neither theory, aren't you? They've just decided that evolution is too far fetched and the evidence just doesn't prove it, yet they don't embrase creationism. I just want to know if you are aware of this fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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