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Astralis, you know so much about the church history and the Bible is so clear about it, don't you think you can claim John 3:16 for your self and put your name in it? For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that if Astralis believes in Him he shall not perish put have everlasting life.. Astralis this is a promise from God for you!! Love in Christ, Angels

Karen thats why we have to wear our spirituel armor girl! Sin does lay at the door, and have to be alert at all times... Angels

Exchristian, You said, you used to be a Christian, when you were a christian what did you believe? Love in Christ, Angels

Do you know where you are going after you die? Angels

Munari, every born again Christian is a priest....

Doesn't the Bible say all born again Christians are a Holy Priesthood?

Astralis, Did you ever hear of Jerome. Origen,Athanasius and Cyril of Jerusalem? These were the Chr. leaders who spoke against it. I am problaly not as good in history as you are, my information about the council of Trent says that it was in the 16th century, but that does not make one of us better then another, what matters is that we believe in the same God, do we? Can we maybe start with this?

Warrior, you are right, the dry bones is the house of Israel.

Jesus and the New Testament writers did not treat the Apocrypha as inspired, through the NT quotes virtually every book of the OT,there is not a single quotation from the Apocrypha . Many Christian leaders in the early church spoke against the Apocrypha. The RC church did not dogmatically declare the Apocrypha to be inspired until the council of Trent,ever heard of priest T Father H.J. Schroeder? (16th century)

Astralis The early church as a whole never accepted the apocrypha as inspired. Even the Roman Cath. church did not dogmatically declared the Apocrypha to be inspired until the 16 th centery. The Apocrypha could help Rome to defend its doctrine against growing Protestant critism. Angels

Before we start I have to ask you another question, Where do Jesus,the prophets or the apostles teach that Tradition is the word of God? Where in the Bible can it be found that scripture and Tradition together, as interpereted by the Pope and bishops of the Roman Cath. Church are to be the church rule of faith. Angels

You didn't answer my question? angels

Ok. Astralis, I admit that you were right to say that the apocrypha were added, I was wrong but I also have to say that when they were taken out ,it was because they were not inspired by the Holy Spirit. I am not going to argue about it, this is what I believe. Can I ask you something? What do you think will happen to a Christian if they reject the Apocripha, do you think I will be damned forever? Can you put your tradition aside and still discuss something from the Bible? Or do we believe in 2 different Gods? Angels

Astralis, if I'm right the apocrypha books were added to the bible much later, right? (which year?) That's why I want to use the Bible only. Let's only go by God's word . Hope you can agree because if not that means you need more then Gods word, and Gods word the Bible should be enough, we agreed to start all over again only from the Bible ,all right? No tradition only the Bible. Angels

Thank you Timothy for you words of wisdom, I'm sure that Astralis can agree with what you wrote. Astralis will you let me know where we could start to study a biblebook from the Bible by Sripture alone, lets do it like Timothy suggested in love and not let pride get a change to take over, only the truth count. Munari, if you don't believe this is possible please do not intervene and let us do this without your comments. Thank you. In Christ, Angels

Just the bible without the added books to it, where do you want to start?? Angels

Hi Joe, Read Hebr.7 it tell you here who he is, he is without father, mother,without genealogy,he was made like the Son of God. Also Ps.110vs:4 This talks about combination of priest and king. Melchizedek was priest and king, so is Jesus. Melchezedek was the King of Jerusalem Gen14:18,shows Melchizedek was the priest of God most high. Angels

Please lets stay on the topic. No judging anybody, only go by the Bible.

Thanks alot TrustingJesus. Astralis,will you forget your traditions and just go by the Bible if we start to dicuss the Bible? I will forget mine and start all over again from the Bible alone,will you join me? Angels

What do you mean by the rule of faith? I never heard of this, can we not just go only by the Bible? You agree with me that the Bible is Gods word ,right? We can start with whatever you want, but lets not make it complicated and ONLY go by what God has to say about it. OK? Angels

Astralis, I would love to do that...but you have to forget your upbringing in the RC church and we start to discuss a Bible book only from the Bible without any Prot. or RC teaching, would you be in for that? Love in Christ, Angels

Ok, thanks!! Angels

Warrior , I am not judging anybody..God will do the judging, He alone!! But we have to stand for truth, there are Christians in most denominations, but that does not mean that all their doctrine is right. We should be very carefull so we KNOW what we believe...and that we will not be decieved. Believe me, I love all people in the Lord. But He wants us to stay close to Him and not to follow wrong teachings. Angels

As a Christian you can never compromise your faith with any other religion, I found this web site, it will tell you all about how RC have to defend their faith to us...I like you to go there there and realize what"Christianity means to you, do you have to add alot to the Bible? Munari and Astralis, this is not a attack against you, I wish you could forget about all your tradition and just go by the word of God instead of both men and God. www.icubed.com/~poe/bibletak.htm (if this website does not bring you to the page, try searching for Catholics talk to "Bible Christians"

Efh, I think that Jerry is right, there are lots of post in this forum which were not written in love ,we have to esteem the other higher of ourself and becareful what we post. The truth has to be said if it is about OUR LORD, but we don't have to hurt other peoples feelings, let's becareful and think before was say something... Love in Christ,Angels