Levi, I'm confused.... could you be more specific, I wasn't aware that anyone on this bulletin board agreed to "the doctine and the subsequent support of greedy, bloody, fanaticism" either. All that I have observed is that these people, like myself, believe that based upon the bible the Israeli people are entitled to the land that was GIVEN to them by GOD. Even here in the United States people in certain offices take an oath to protect their nation against all enemies "foreign and domestic." As I see it that is exactly what many of the people in Israel are doing. How can I sit back in self righteousness and say they are wrong for doing so. I don't necessarily agree with everything they do but one thing is clear... they have the right and obligation to protect their country when they are threatened. But again.... please let me know who at any time on this board backed some belief in this "doctine and the subsequent support of greedy, bloody, fanaticism" because as I see it no christian LIKES bloodshed or greed or fanaticism. Then again, some people have different views of what constitutes fanaticism. Some believe that all people are fanatics if they accept a literal translation and belief in the bible.... imagine that...