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That is interesting news. I remember a few years back, prolly in the mid-90s, there was supposed to be a big nazi rally in DC. They assigned a ton of police to the event as the nazis said there would be thousands there and they expected trouble. Less than a dozen nazis actually showed up and the organization got in trouble for wasting the police's time. Another time there was gonna be this big punk rock show with a bunch of nazi bands here in Baltimore but more people bought tickets to beat up the nazis than nazis. Hopefully this will turn out similarly, but we shall see. Hatred is dumb, these guys need to get a life.

I have two questions regarding what is and is not kosher for passover. Pasta: It seems that it is pretty much uncontested that pasta is not kosher for passover, yet I actualyl looked at the ingredients this year (before tossing it) and it contains flour, eggs and water. Why is it considered chometz? Wine: How is wine kosher for passover? This guy I know doesn't eat anything fermented on passover because he says chometz means anythnig fermented. I mean we're talkin vinegar and anything with vinegar in it (mustard, ketchup, many salad dressings). It was always my understanding that what made something chometz was not the fermentation but the grain used in the fermentation. Anyone else know more about this? I'm not trying to be overly legalistic, I just like to have a solid grasp on these concepts.

Cheesecake should be pie. Who's with me on this? I mean, cake is vastly inferior to pie, but cheesecake rocks. For that reason alone it should be elevated to pie status. But there is the fact that it is far more pie-like than cake like. How many cakes do you know of that have a crust (much like pie) and a soft and delicious (non cake-like) filling very similar to that of pumpkin, key lime, or even sweet potato pie? Henceforth, cheesecake shall be known as cheesepie!

I thought our sin was purged on the cross It is finished. Doesn't that mean our debt has been paid? Why would you try and accomplish something that Jesus already did? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Its more about self-examination. We often do things without even considering that we may be sinning, being the imperfect and all that. It's about improving your walk with God, just as a little yeast leavens the whole batch a little sin can affect your whole life. James 2:14-26 14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith, but does not have works? Can his faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is without clothes and lacks daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, "Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well," but you don't give them what the body needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way faith, if it doesn't have works, is dead by itself. 18 But someone will say, "You have faith, and I have works." Show me your faith without works, and I will show you faith from my works. 19 You believe that God is one; you do well. The demons also believe--and they shudder. 20 Foolish man! Are you willing to learn that faith without works is useless? 21 Wasn't Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 You see that faith was active together with his works, and by works, faith was perfected. 23 So the Scripture was fulfilled that says, Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him for righteousness, and he was called God's friend. 24 You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25 And in the same way, wasn't Rahab the prostitute also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by a different route? 26 For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.

From Wikipedia: Matza (also Matzoh, Matzah, Matzo, Hebrew מַצָּה maṣṣā), an unleavened bread, is the "official" food of Passover. When the Jews were leaving Egypt, after a week of mandatory abstinence from leavening, there was no time for the bread to rise, and the resulting food was matzoh. For Passover, the ingredients for matzoh are flour and water. Five grains are forbidden for use during Passover in any processed form but dry-roasting and as matzoh: wheat, barley, spelt, rye, and either oats (according to Rashi) or two-rowed barley (according to Rambam's interpretation of Mishnah Kilayim 1:1; Yerushalmi Challah 1:1). (Wheat and spelt are both in the genus Triticum and anything else in the genus is likewise forbidden. Oat-grain is practically gluten-free and belongs to a different tribe than wheat, spelt, rye and barley.) Millet and teff are borderline; it takes a few days for them to rise. Dough made from the five grains is considered to start rising if it is inactive for 18 minutes from the time it gets wet; if longer elapses before it is put in the oven, it is no longer matzoh. Shmura ("watched") matzoh (Hebr. מַצָּה שְׁמוּרָה maṣṣā

Oy! (my head hurts I have been debating this theory for most of the day!) Here is a link to an explanation of this lunar sabbath theory. Basically, the sabbath happens according to the phases of the moon, rather than every 7 days according to this theory. Also, if we have a 2-3 days long 'new moon' phase this only counts as one day (a 48-72 hour sabbath!). Which in turn offsets the calendar meaning that shabbat on any given month could be on any given day of the week! Yeh, I don't get it but it seems that a lot of people buy into this theory. http://www.7000menforthelord.com/Sabbath/Sabbath.htm Here is a rebuttal to this theory. Oddly enough, it is far simpler and easy to understand than the theory itself, go figure. http://www.triumphpro.com/sabbath_new_moon_crisis.htm

Yeah, that is a Yahwist webiste. I would not have much to do with that. That is NOT Messianic. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yahwist, could you give me some good points of reference? I have never heard the term.(Yahwist)

Shalom all. Some friends of mine have bcome involved with a movement, whose statement of faith can be found here: http://shema-teshuvah.com/basic_doctrinal_statement.htm They seem very legalistic, and this statement is very long. I would like some help with studying the scriptures referenced therein and forming a good, scriputure-based rebuttal, or establishing that it is indeed scriptural. I'm not looking to tear anyone down, but these guys seem (IMHO) to have gotten a bit off track. More thoughts on this to follow.

I'll ask next time I speak with him, but I don't think this is what he was referring to. He said that during the Roman occupation, the Jews adopted a seven day week to better accomodate commerce. Though this seems nonsensical to me as Genesis 1 establishes the seven day week.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/st...1464412,00.html Governments are building a "global registration and surveillance infrastructure" in the US-led "war on terror", civil liberty groups warned yesterday. The aim is to monitor the movements and activities of entire populations in what campaigners call "an unprecedented project of social control". The warning came from the International Civil Liberties Monitoring Group, including the American Civil Liberties Union, and Statewatch, a UK-based bulletin which tracks developments in the EU. hey point to the system whereby all visitors to the US are to be digitally photographed and fingerprinted. The EU has agreed that member states must fingerprint all passport holders by the end of 2007. The information will be held on databases. National ID cards, they warn, will become a "globally interoperable biometric passport". The setting up of airlines' passenger name records (PNRs) could include more than 60 different kinds of information, including meal choices which could reveal personal, religious or ethnic affiliations. The US and EU governments are expanding legal powers to eavesdrop and to store the product of intercepted personal communications, the groups warn. They also point to an agreement between Europol - the EU's incipient police headquarters - and the US giving what they say will be an unlimited number of American agencies access to sensitive information on the race, political opinions, religious beliefs, health and sexual life of individuals. The groups point to increasingly close cooperation between national police, security, intelligence, and military establishments. To achieve their ends, they say, governments have suspended judicial oversight over law enforcement agents and public officials, concentrated unprecedented power in the hands of the executive arm of government, and rolled back criminal law and due process protections that balance the rights of individuals against the power of the state. These initiatives, say the civil liberty groups, are not effective in identifying terrorists.

Yeh me too.....I love robots

I here that, we will be attending another family's seder, ther will likely be 10-15 people there. I'm really looking forward to it, such a great festival.

you have overlooked a few things. It takes an understanding of the Feast Days though. Shavuot (Feast of Pentecost) was the day that the Law was given on Mt Sinai to Moses yet it was pointing to the Law being written on our hearts. When Yeshua was sacrificed on the Feast of Passover and raised on the Feast of Firstfruits, He fulfilled the prophetic meaning of these Feast days. The next feast to come was Shavuot (Feast of Weeks also known as Pentecost) and this was what they were to remain in Jerusalem waiting for. Were the disciples "saved" when they were performing miracles before that? Maybe. I wonder about Judas. He certainly would have been going out with the rest of them, eh? But until Pentecost, the Holy Spirit was not a permanent condition in the life of a saint. It might overshadow someone for a specific time...for a specific purpose...but the fullness of the Holy Spirit never permanently indwelled believers until it was sent for all who would believe on THAT day in Acts 2. So those people who were baptised by John? They were doing a ritual immersion for repentance....not the baptism of faith at all because they didn't know who Yeshua was. You can repent of being a bad boy anytime you want but without knowing Yeshua, you have only put faith in your works. We are all sealed in the Holy Spirit from the moment we have repented AND put our faith in Yeshua. From there the Ruach (Spirit) begins to mold us into the image of His Son. Some speak in tongues, some don't......this is the least practical of spiritual gifts to desire and I never understand why anyone would put so much importance on this. If you want to judge your brother's salvation then the fruit of the Spirit is a much better indication than the gifts....which can be faked. But the gifts of the Spirit are for the edification of the body, not for division as you have wielded them. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Beautiful post, Yod

It SHOULD be...but it isn't because rabbinic judaism says so. Pesach was actually the same weekend as Easter this year according to biblical exposition. How ironic is it that the church got the right time for the Passover this year but messianics and jews didn't? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It is somewhat ironic. I think there are decent arguments on both sides of the fence, however. Check out http://www.ffoz.org/downloads/Lunar-Calend...Aviv-Barley.pdf and http://tsiyon.org/Tsiyon_to_FFOZ.pdf which is a rebuttal to the first.

This has come up in our congregation recently, and I was just wondering: Is the Aviv barley a determining factor today, or does it not matter?

This is a problem because a) it is illegal and b) it is harmful to oneself. Again, you are harming someone else, a child at that, clearly wrong. Aside from legality, I do not know that owning slaves is inherently evil or wrong. I believe that the wrongess of such would be dependent upon how they were treated. Slavery, however, is never an ideal situation, and not something I would advocate. This is fornication. When I play poker, I do not play to "get rich", I play, as do my friends, because we enjoy the game. Some people become pastors, play chess, or even drive cars to get rich, does this make doing those things wrong? How is spending some money on poker any different than spending money on a different form of entertainment, provided, again, that it is not a stumbling block? I sould hope that in a friendly game noone is being oppressed. If you don't have the funds to play poker, you shouldn't play. If you are playing with money you can't afford to spend it is a stumbling block.

Wow! Great to hear that he is willing to take such a stand. May God grant strength to him and his family.

I don't think that gambling is a problem provided you do not make a lifestyle of it (like anything else that isn't God). I play a game of no-limit texas hold-'em about one a month with some friends. I don't spend any more on it than I would be likely to spend for an evening of entertainment elsewhere. Also, while there is an element of chance involved in poker, it is mostly skill. While this is not apparent at first (I thought it was mostly chance till I played a few games) there is a ton of strategy involved in betting and knowing what your opponents are holding. As Kenny Rogers puts it: "every hand's a winner, and every hand's a loser." Is is wrong to play a game that is mostly chance, though? I don't know that it is, so long as you have fun and it is not a stumbling block. That being said, gambling is a stumbling block for many people and I do not think we should allow it to be a stumbling block for ourselves, nor should we encourage those to whom it is a stumbling block to indulge.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/0...e.ap/index.html LONDON, England (AP) -- A grandmother stopped an intruder from entering her home by lobbing a heavy garden gnome at him, police said Friday. Jean Collop was woken early on Tuesday morning by the sound of an intruder on the roof of her home in Wadebridge, southwest England. "I grabbed the first thing that came to hand -- one of my garden gnomes -- and hurled it at him, and hit him," she recalled. "He lay there and I began to scream. I went back into the kitchen and found a rolling pin in case he came down. I didn't want to break another gnome." A neighbor alerted police who arrived shortly afterward and arrested the intruder. He added: "Our usual advice would be not to get involved, but to contact the police straight away," said a spokesman for the Devon and Cornwall Police. "We do appreciate that in the heat of the moment people react to that situation, and if it results in a happy outcome that's great."

The link seems to be bad there. What an amazing display of stupidity, though. It's kind of ironic, when you consider that the FDA just approved a trial to see whether or not MDMA (the active ingredient in ecstasy) can relieve the symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder.

I do hope you meant *Close* to absolute zero. Supposedly all molecular motion stops at absolute zero. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, according to the laws of thermodynamics it is impossible to reach absolute zero, for the same reason that no system can be 100% efficient. Though at temperatures approaching absolute zero, some metals gain superconductive (no electrical resistance) properties.

Practicing...kinda like back in '98 when the Marines invaded Hebron, here in Maryland? I was there, I can tell you this article is 100% true. http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a629228.htm A few of us were ordered to turn our cameras off during this incursion, so there is little if any video record (civilian anyway) of what happened there.

Yes, I understand that to be the tradition, howeer, the man I was talking to asserted that the sabbath itself was based on the phases of the moon, it may begin on thursday evening one week and friday evening the next. I'm not really clear on how it is supposed to work though. This doesn't seem scriptural to me, but I was just wondering if anyone knew if there was an ancient sect of Jews who practiced this way and why, or if it was a more modern invention. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He is incorrect. There is no tradition among the Jewish people that espouses that. The Sabbath is not based on the phases of the moon. You might ask him where he got his information. Whoever he got is info from is giving him faulty ideas. Werent you raised Orthodox? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah I was, and I've never heard of this lunar sabbath thing at all, but the guy I talked to is a black-hatter Lebovitcher(sp?). I'll have to ask him to go into more detail next time I see him, as I can see no basis for this in Torah or anywhere else for that matter.

Yes, I understand that to be the tradition, howeer, the man I was talking to asserted that the sabbath itself was based on the phases of the moon, it may begin on thursday evening one week and friday evening the next. I'm not really clear on how it is supposed to work though. This doesn't seem scriptural to me, but I was just wondering if anyone knew if there was an ancient sect of Jews who practiced this way and why, or if it was a more modern invention.

I was talking to some friends of mine and one mentioned that the sabbath used to be kept not on the seventh day, but according to the phases of the moon, does anyone know anything about this? I thought that God had commanded us to rest on the seventh day, was this some sort of rabbinical teaching?