douggg

Specifically, what part of my list? There are seven pages for that thread. Could you please get right to the point and who are others saying the man-child in Revelation 12:4-5 is, other than the man-child being Jesus ?

At present. That will change with the Gog/Magog event because of the crushing defeat of the muslim armies, the muslims thinking that there god Allah will give them victory. Instead the True God of Israel supernaturally destroys their armies... exposing Islam for what it is - a big lie.

Islam will have been destroyed 7 years earlier to Zechariah 14.

Michael, the seven heads are seven kings. The ten horns are ten kings. If you zoom out on your monitor, the comparison table is a little more easy to follow. Revelation 17 - timestamp status - first century seven heads - no crowns (end times completion) ten horns - no crowns (end times completion) Revelation 12 - timestamp status - end times, the 7 years before Jesus returns. seven heads - crowns (seven kings completion) ten horns - no crowns Revelation 13 - timestamp status - end times, 42 months before Jesus returns seven heads - no crowns. one head mortally wounded but healed - the beast king. ten horns - crowns (to rule with the beast king).

Zechariah 14:2 does not mean that the house of Israel goes into captivity into another land for worshiping Moloch. It means that the kings of the earth will have their armies hold half of the city of Jerusalem as hostages - in hopes of keeping Jesus from destroying them

Amos was a prophet during the reign of Jeroboam II of Israel, and Uzziah of Judah. kjv Amos 5:26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. 27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts. The house of Israel went into Assyrian captivity. Amos 5:21-27 is not talking about the end times. mos 5:

The sea being the gentile nations, while the earth being a referral to Israel. I don't think there will be a unified singular global government in the future, because the beast king will be attacked at the end of the seven years by the nations to the south, then north, then east (Daniel 11:40-45). Which implies that the beast king will be king of the western nations. i.e the EU with allies of the U.S. and Canada. I think that there will be a dominant government over the governments of the world imposing its will by economic and military strength. Islam will be pretty much a thing of the past once Gog/Magog takes place. And Russia' military will suffer huge losses in the Gog/Magog event that it will take most of the 7 years to recover from.

Verses 21-27 are not end times. It was what Amos's generation was doing.

The beast coming out of the sea - as a whole, the kingdom of the beast king. The kingdom is the EU. The mortally wounded but healed head - the beast king, king 8 of Revelation 17:11 The beast who is worshiped and continues 42 months - the beast king, king 8 of Revelation 17:11, formerly king 7 of Revelation 17:10 The dragon - Satan The saints - persons who become Christians during the 42 months The beast out of the earth - the false prophet The Lamb slain from the foundation of the world - Jesus The image of the beast - a statue image of the beast king. It is the abomination of desolation. The image of the beast come to life - the statue image incarnated by Satan.

The woman clothed with the sun, the moon under feet, and crown of 12 stars - Israel The great red dragon - Satan The third part of the stars cast to the earth - the angels who sided with Satan The man child, caught up to God, and to His throne - Jesus The Lamb - Jesus The remnant of the woman's seed - them of the 12 tribes who do not flee into the wilderness quickly when they see the abomination statue image on the temple mount. They keep the commandment of God and have the testimony of Jesus - they will have become Christians.

Could be the leader of that collective group.

Where in Amos are you getting the Jews worshiping Moloch at the time of the end ?

You are the one bringing up Moloch, not me.

Iran is a central nation of the Gog/Magog group, I agree. The "Assyrian" could be referring to the leader of Iran. Gog appears to be the leader of Russia. The little horn may be Zelensky, too early to tell for certain. 5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet: 6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

The day of the Lord is an expression for a time of God's judgment. The day of Christ in 2Thessalonians2:1-2 is the period of time inclusive of when Jesus returns to this earth. You are drifting way off course from the topic of this thread.

Please be more responsible with your posts. You are drifting way off course from the topic of this thread. In the new testament scriptures - the Jews were never accused of idol worship by Jesus. You are talking about ancient history.

Islam ends by the Gog/Magog event. The temple mount will the be freed up for the Jews to build a temple and restart animal sacrifices - to later be stopped in the middle of the 70th week..

Revelation 17:8 trips up many people. Revelation 17:7 indicates that the angel is about to make known the mystery of the scarlet colored beast - Satan. Revelation 17:8 is that mystery. Revelation 17:8a the beast (a literal beast) is the garden of Eden serpent beast used by Satan. The serpent beast, now a disembodied spirit, is who is in the bottomless pit. Revelation 17:8b the beast is the end times person, who the world will wonder, can't hardly believe their eyes, when king 7 is killed but comes back to life. Come back to life, he will be the beast king of Revelation 17:11, who Satan will empower him.

The beast coming out the sea, as a whole, in Revelation 13 is the kingdom of the beast king, the mortally wounded but healed head. Revelation 17 - is an over view chapter, spanning across time. Satan is the scarlet colored beast in that chapter. The status of the heads and horns (no crowns on either) in that chapter are time-stamped the first century when the 6th Julio-Claudian king was ruling the Roman Empire. King 7 is the forthcoming end times little horn king. Who later becomes the beast king, king 8. Revelation 12 - is an end times chapter, with the first five verses a historic vision to identify the woman in the rest of Revelation 12 as Israel. And the great red dragon as Satan. Verses 6-17 are the 7 year 70th week. The status of the heads and horns in that chapter are time stamped at the beginning of the 7 years. The heads have crowns indicating that king 7 has come to power, completing the prophecy of the 7 kings of Revelation 17:10. Revelation 13 - is an end times chapter, with 42 months left in the 7 year 70th week. The status of the heads and horns in that chapter are time stamped at the beginning of the 42 months. The seven heads have no crowns because king 7 will have been mortally wounded, the prophecy of the 7 kings of Revelation 17:10 over. The mortally wounded, but healed head - is king 7 come back to life as king 8 the beast king. The overall beast coming out of the sea as a whole is the kingdom of the beast king. The ten horn kings have there crowns because they rule with the beast for one hour (figuratively), the 42 months. They give their kingdom, the EU, over to the beast to be dictator of it. The EU is the beast kingdom coming out of the sea. With 42 months, the EU will have gained control over the territory once held by the Babylonian, Medo-Persian, and Greek, empires - the reason for the composite makeup of the beast coming out of the sea.

The Scarlet colored beast - Satan Mystery Babylon the Great - the mystical kingdom of Satan and his angels - responsible for all slain upon the earth The woman turned Harlot - the Vatican. associated with Rome, bishops and cardinals dressed in scarlet and purple. The beast in the bottomless pit - the garden of eden serpent beast used by Satan The beast who was, is not, yet is - the end times beast king of Revelation 17:11, Satan empowers him The seven head kings - Julio-Claudian rulers of the Roman Empire King 7 who continues a short space - the little horn person, over ten Eu leaders King 8 the beast king - King 7 after he has been killed and brought back to life, and continues the short space of 42 months Ten horn kings - ten EU leaders, the EU the fourth kingdom, the Roman Empire, of the end times.

a condensed overview of Revelation, Chapters 6-19: Revelation 6 - six of the seals on the book opened, revealing the four riders of the apocalypse, increasing in intensity, the martyrs of the apocalypse in heaven under the altar of God, the stars of heaven parted and the sign of the Son of Man in heaven revealed as the time of the Lamb to take vengeance on behalf of the martyrs. The overview chapter of the 7 years and the rest of Revelation, leading up to the millennium rule of Jesus on this present earth. Revelation 7 - the sealing of the 144,000 of the tribes of Israel, followed by the great multitude martyrs of all nations, peoples, kindreds, and tongues, that will come out of the great tribulation, received in heaven. Revelation 8 - the seventh seal opened, the first four trumpet angels sounding judgments. The judgments upon the earth begin. Revelation 9 - trumpet angels five and six sounding two of the trumpet woes to the inhabiters of the earth. Revelation 10 - the mighty angel proclaiming the time has come for the mystery of God to be fulfilled. Revelation 11 - the two witnesses, the seventh trumpet sounding, the third woe soon to be revealed. Revelation 12 - the 7 years of the 70th week, Satan cast down to earth in the middle of it, the third woe. Revelation 13 - the last 42 months of the 70th week, king 8 the beast king in power, the abomination of desolation is revealed, the buy/sell law enacted, the dragon Satan and the beast king worship demand. Revelation 14 - the preaching of the everlasting gospel during the 42 months, encouragement to them living on earth during that time. Revelation 15 - the seven angels readied to prepare to pour out the bowls of God's wrath. Intensified judgment. Revelation 16 - the bowls (vials) of God's wrath poured out. Revelation 17 - the overview chapter, the big picture across time. Introduces the woman turned harlot, introduces Mystery Babylon the Great, and the mystery of Satan, the 7 heads symbolism revealed, the ten horns symbolism revealed. Information on who will be the beast king of Revelation 13. Revelation 18 - the demise of Mystery Babylon the Great. Revelation 19 - Jesus's Return, judgment on the beast king, the false prophet, Satan, and the kings of earth and their armies gathered to fight Jesus.

Because the little horn in Daniel 8:9 waxes exceedingly great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. ...meaning that he is coming from a location northwest of Israel. northwest of Israel is Greece.

Daniel 8:8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven. 9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. The little horn does not come out of a king. But instead out of either Ptolemy, Cassander, Lysimachus and Seleucus, kingdoms. Cassander's ancient Greek Macedonia kingdom is the only one north and west of Israel. It also happens to be the eastern boundary of the EU, the Roman empire of the end times I am keeping an eye on Zelensky, a Jew, who the little horn to become the Antichrist, King of Israel, must be a Jew. If Russia is Gog's main army, which it appears to be, then should the Russians decide to withdraw from their war on Ukraine and start bringing their forces back to Russia - it could be then Ezekiel 38:4 takes place of Russia being drawn back, but toward the middle east, into a conflict that develops of the muslim nations against Israel. From the text of verse 4, it looks like Gog is going to be dragged into the Gog/Magog event, being turned back from whatever he is previously engaged in. 3 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: 4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: Going to have to see if somehow Zelensky becomes the leader over 10 EU leaders or not. That would be a big break through bible prophecy event, imo. Ukraine is on a fast track to become a full-fledged EU member state.

The seven heads are seven mountains where the woman turned harlot sits. It is talking about Rome, the harlot being the Vatican associated with Rome. The seven kings are seven kings associated with Rome, specifically the Roman Empire, i.e. the Julio-Claudian bloodline. head 1 - Julius Caesar head 2 - Augustus head 3 - Tiberius head 4 - Caligula head 5 - Claudius head 6 - Nero head 7 - end times little horn, leader over ten EU kings, Roman Empire in the end times. no head 8 - has to be one of the 7 kings. king 7 must continue it says a short space - i.e. the 42 months as the beast king. king 7, the little horn person after he has been killed and brought back to life as the beast king, is king 8. Dictator of the EU.

THE TEN HORNS In Daniel 2, the ten toes (kings implied) = the ten horn kings of Daniel 7 = the ten horn kings of Revelation 17 = the ten horn kings of Revelation 12 = the ten horn kings w/crowns in Revelation 13. _______________________________________________________________ THE SEVEN HEADS In Revelation 17, the 7 heads=7 kings...5 dead..1 is....1 yet to come = Revelation 12, the seven heads w/crowns (king 7 in power) = Revelation 13, the seven heads, crowns removed (king 7 has been killed). ______________________________________________________________ THE LITTLE HORN'S EVOLUTION INTO THE BEAST little horn person (king 7) > becomes the prince who shall come > then becomes the Antichrist, king of Israel coming in his own name > then becomes the revealed man of sin > then become the beast king (king 8). ________________________________________________________________________ KING 7 BECOMES KING 8 king 7 - leader over the ten king governing body of the EU, the Roman Empire in the end times. king 8 - (formerly king 7 who will be killed, and comes back to life) dictator of the EU for 42 months, at the same time the ten horn kings have their crowns in Revelation 13 to rule with him.