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Satan isn't in heaven as you claim, he was cast out long ago Satan was in the earth during the time if Jobseen in Job 1:6, and during the Lord's temptation of 40 days in the dessert Jesus Is The Lord

Good post, Yes Joe the false teaching of "Departure" is a Thomas Ice brain child The Greek word used is "Apostasia" being the root for the English "Apostasy" and it surely doesn't mean a church being taken away from earth, on a Tommy Ice magic carpet ride rapture

Benny Hinn is a fake, in it for the $$$, just ask Paula White, his run away to Italy lover

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No such thing as a pre-trib rapture found in scripture as you suggest, it's a fabricated fairy tale of man

A pre-trib rapture is found no place in scripture, it's a fabricated fairy tale of man Feel free to post quotes of your Church fathers, waiting?

Scripture clearly teaches that Jesus Christ is the only way to obtain salvation and be written in the book of life At the death of Jesus Christ, his shed blood paid the price for the world's sin, and those that reject this sacrificial Lamb of God will be destined for Hell, then the Lake Of Fire at the final judgment, its that simple Acts 4:11-12KJV 11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Revelation 20:15KJV 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

As stated the only thing going between God and man is the shed blood on Calvary "Period" We Disagree

You didn't highlight the best part, why is that? "But As Touching The Election" and only those "Elect" Do you believe all "National Israel" will be saved? If so, who is this "Israel"? Citizenship? Religious Judaism? Ethnic Jews?

Only the remnant elect Jew will be saved, and brought through the last day judgement by fire Zechariah 13:8-9KJV 8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. 9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God. 1 Corinthians 3:13KJV 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

There is only one calling, that is salvation through the shed blood on Calvary "Period"

You see two groups of Jews below 1. Israel, 2. Election Scripture clearly teaches Israel doesn't obtain salvation, they are blinded by a God given spirit of slumber Scripture clearly teaches only the remnant elect Jew will be saved, it's really simple Your a precept upon precept believer, you can't ignore the facts before your eyes, only the remnant elect Jew will be saved Romans 11:7-8KJV 7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. 8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

Please define "His People" thanks?

Please define who "Israel" is in Romans 11:7 below? Romans 11:7-8KJV 7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. 8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

Once again, at no time was or am I angry as you falsely claim, your not an internet mind reader Jesus Is The Lord

Yes, and this "Harpazo" takes place at the second coming of Jesus Christ, immediately after the tribulation, Matthew 24:29-30

I Disagree, feel free to post your quotes of the ECF on your claimed pre-trib rapture Darby 1830's is the father of what we have today, C.I. Scofield promoted Darby's teachings in his 1909 reference Bible, Dallas Theological Seminary is the world headquarters for the pre-trib rapture, and dispensationalism's theology

Scripture clearly teaches that the rest are blinded, given a spirit of slumber in "unbelief" Romans 11:23KJV 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again. Once again, only the "Remnant Elect Jew" will be saved, sealed, and added to the Church on earth, "The Rest Are Blinded" Jesus Is The Lord Romans 11:7-8KJV 7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. 8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

Your claim of myself being angry is "false" Jesus Is The Lord

Sorry to hear of the family tragedy, Hitler was a evil human, and is now paying the price for his evil deeds Romans 12:19KJV 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

The OP mentions the "Second Coming" and the fire seen below in this future event is very much associated with the OP, we don't want to keep the fire in judgement quiet do we Joe? 1 Corinthians 3:13KJV 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. Luke 17:29-30KJV 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8KJV 7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Direct Question? Will the Church be present on earth to see the antichrist revealed? A simple yes/no will suffice, no need for a "Novel" sized response

(Thousand Years) in Revelation chapter 20 shows nothing more than the events described are in the Lord's eternal spiritual, where one day is a thousand years, not literal earthly time as Millennialist claim Revelation 20:1-6 is 100% in the Lord's eternal spiritual, Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ 2 Peter 3:8KJV 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Once Again, my response and claim was the antichrist is to be revealed while the Church is on earth, and how the Church must be warned, your responses have been silent on this warning A pre-trib rapture is deception, as the antichrist and deception will take place while the Church is on this earth

A Messianic Kingdom of 1,000 years on this earth, is found no place in scripture No place in Revelation 20 does it show or teach a literal Kingdom on this earth, with mortal humans present as many claim, it's a fabricated fairy tale of man Millennialist use this fairy tale and the words (Thousand Years) and jump into the old testament and use various claims to present their 1,000 year Kingdom, with all claims being "False" Examples: Ezekiel chapters 40-46 is the 2nd Zerrubabbel temple 536BC "Historical" Ezekiel chapters 47-48 is the eternal kingdom, where the river and tree of life are present Zechariah chapter 14 is the eternal kingdom, where the river of life is present, after the day of the Lord in final fire judgment Isaiah chapters 11 & 65 is the eternal kingdom, in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem