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The Two Witnesses Are Future Literal Unfulfilled, 70AD nor 48-67AD played no part, "Future" The two witnesses will be future literal, physical, prophets returned, they will bring literal plagues upon a literal world, that will have individual bodies that die, that will lay in a physical street in Jerusalem, that will be raised from the dead, and ascend to heaven before a literal world watching, just as Revelation Chapter 11 teaches

I Strongly Disagree, the future 42 month tribulation will start when armies surround Jerusalem and the antichrist is revealed

You didn't prove a thing, you shared your opinion It's my opinion your eschatology is wrong Jesus Is The Lord

The future literal two witnesses will bring literal plagues upon this literal earth, just as Moses/Aaron did against Pharaoh of Egypt You resort to removing the future literal events, through symbolic allegory "Wrong" Revelation 11:4KJV 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Yes we disagree, the 42 months are literal future, and are not symbolic or representative of the Pope's over centuries Jesus Is The Lord

The two witnesses will be future prophets returned, they will bring literal plagues upon a literal world, that will have individual bodies that die, that will lay in a physical street in Jerusalem, that will be raised from the dead, and ascend to heaven before a literal world watching, just as Revelation Chapter 11 teaches

I fully disagree with your interpretation, Revelation chapter 13 is self explanatory, the "Future" (The Beast/Man Of Sin) will be given 42 months, it's that simple Your claim this entails centuries of catholic popes in succession is unfounded in scripture

Scripture clearly teaches (The Beast/Antichrist) will be given 42 months of power, your claim this represents the Pope's throughout history is comical Revelation 13:4-5KJV 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

The (man of sin/antichrist) will be present on earth at the Lord's return, and will be destroyed by the brightness of his coming,a future event unfulfilled Caesar committed suicide long ago, your preterist teaching "Fails" 2 Thessalonians 2:8KJV 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Matthew 12:32KJ 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Exodus 11:4-7KJV 4 And Moses said, Thus saith the Lord, About midnight will I go out into the midst of Egypt: 5 And all the firstborn in the land of Egypt shall die, from the first born of Pharaoh that sitteth upon his throne, even unto the firstborn of the maidservant that is behind the mill; and all the firstborn of beasts. 6 And there shall be a great cry throughout all the land of Egypt, such as there was none like it, nor shall be like it any more. 7 But against any of the children of Israel shall not a dog move his tongue, against man or beast: that ye may know how that the Lord doth put a difference between the Egyptians and Israel.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV 7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV 2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap: 1 Corinthians 3:13KJV 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Nahum 1:5KJV 5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein. Luke 17:29-30KJV 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

The (Day Of The Lord) is when the heavens and earth are dissolved by the Lord's fire in final judgment, and its not going to be man's nuclear bombs that does it 2 Peter 3:10-13KJV 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Those that flee Jerusalem are the 144,000 in the wilderness of Bashan, Gilead, Carmel, they are chosen by God, he will feed them Manna from heaven as in the days of coming out of Egypt Revelation 12:6KJV 6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. Micah 7:14-17KJV 14 Feed thy people with thy rod, the flock of thine heritage, which dwell solitarily in the wood, in the midst of Carmel: let them feed in Bashan and Gilead, as in the days of old. 15 According to the days of thy coming out of the land of Egypt will I shew unto him marvellous things. 16 The nations shall see and be confounded at all their might: they shall lay their hand upon their mouth, their ears shall be deaf. 17 They shall lick the dust like a serpent, they shall move out of their holes like worms of the earth: they shall be afraid of the Lord our God, and shall fear because of thee.

Nothing in Revelation chaper 11 states or even suggests that the cloud the two witnesses rise in is fire, smoke, brimstone, as you claim Revelation 11:12KJV 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

Nothing in Revelation chapter 6 states or even suggests "Bombing" as you claim

John 5:28-29KJV 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

THE WALK John Robert Stevens 1919 - 1983 Also known as the Church of the Living Word, this cult is led by "Apostle" John Robert Stevens. At least 100 churches in the United States are allied with this "restoration movement." Although The Walk publicly denies sanctioning any extrabiblical revelation, Stevens claims that "God has given the apostolic ministry a unique ability to break into new levels in God and then impart them to the people." The elite members of the organization are known as the "apostolic company," and they reportedly receive "new levels of revelation" on a regular basis. All members of The Walk are expected to submit to such revelations. Stevens, like many other cult leaders, is extremely intolerant of individuality. He wrote a book in 1977 called "From Many Comes One," in which he claims that "the day of individuality is ending. Christ is coming to be glorified in His saints, not that a lot of individuals will be running around with Christ glorified in them, but that they will lose their own identity as saints...God does not seem interested in giving His people anything as individuals to make them happy and contented... God does not want to protract the problem of individuality." From an orthodox Christian standpoint, Stevens' description of Christ is disturbingly similar to that of "Big Brother" of George Orwell's "1984." Stevens also places a strong emphasis on authority and subjection, and exhorts members of the cult to totally submit to himself and the "apostolic company," using the rationale of "Divine Right" used by kings in the Middle Ages to cement their authority over their subjects: "Those who are submissive will accept a word of authority over them, even when that word is wrong...If the Lord has revealed the authority over you, you can be submissive, even when the authority deviates from the will of God. In other words, you can receive some wrong words of direction and still be a winner." One pastor in The Walk even claimed that he "would follow Brother Stevens to hell" and be honored by God for submitting to the will of Stevens. The Walk is also involved in psychic and borderline occult practices. Stevens tells his followers that "In your present state, even though you are a Christian, your eyes are still not seeing the spirit world, your ears are not hearing the spirit world...You must work your way up to the higher plane." Members of the cult practice such rituals as the "glory chain," which can supposedly be used to transfer God's blessings through people. This is done by placing the right hand, palm up, underneath another cultist's left hand (also palm up) and transferring the blessing through the back of his hand. Stevens also teaches that astral projection can be performed, and cites I Corinthians 5:3-4 for support, claiming that Paul was able to project his soul to Corinth from a distant point. Martha Stevens, who was married to Apostle Stevens for 40 years, filed for divorce in 1979. During the proceedings, she revealed that Stevens' holdings could amount to $40 million. A California newspaper then launched an investigation of the Church of the Living Word, and learned that it had conducted a Nevada silver mine fraud that allegedly cheated members of the cult out of at least $500,000. Stevens also possessed an extensive art collection and $29,000 in silver bars, and hired an attorney for the divorce suit, paying him $10,000 plus $125 per hour. Martha claims, "My husband has total control of the church and its funds, and total access to all church finances. He is, in essence, the church himself." The Living Word Fellowship is a group of nondenominational Christian churches located in the United States, Canada, Brazil, and Mexico,[1] often described as a new religious movement or cult.[2] The group was founded in South Gate, California, by John Robert Stevens in 1951.[3] It has been known in the past informally as "The Walk" or "This Walk", reflecting the view that every Christian should have a personal walk with Jesus Christ.[3] At its peak in the 1970s, the fellowship had about 100 member congregations. It was based at Shiloh, a farm and retreat site near Washington, Iowa. Membership declined after founder Stevens' death in 1983.[2] Anthony Cox's 1985 documentary film Vain Glory deals with his experiences as a member of "The Walk."[2] Cox, who was involved in the group from 1971 to 1977, described the Church of the Living Word as "a pseudo-Christian cult" and said that John Robert Stevens prayed for the deaths of several U.S. political leaders and practiced a form of mind control and hypnotism with the church's followers.[4] Cox also said that Stevens had considered himself to be an incarnation of Jesus Christ and that church members expected Stevens to be resurrected after his 1983 death.[4]

Scripture doesn't state what happens to the bodies of the (Two Witnesses) after they are raised from the dead and ascend to heaven in a cloud, any response to your question is pure speculation

God is righteous in judgement, you think the first born dying in Egypt, was everybody holding hands and skipping down the yellow brick road to the Kingdom of OZ? Perhaps Jesus was judgemental in his turning over tables in the temple, while chasing out the money changers with a whip? Don't forget Ananias & Sapphira who fell dead at the apostles feet, for lying to the Holy Spirit? The unsaved wicked being tormented eternally with fire and brimstone, before the holy angels and Jesus Christ? Revelation 14:9-10KJV 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: The (Two Witnesses) will bring God's plagues in righteous judgment, upon the antichrist and the wicked world Jesus Is The Lord

Yes scripture clearly teaches the (Two Witnesses) are "Prophets" of God, and they will bring plagues upon the "Wicked" just as Moses/Aaron in Egypt Revelation 11:6 & 10KJV 6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will. 10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. Revelation 9:20-21KJV 20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: 21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

I Don't have a clue what you are suggesting in the (Two Witnesses) being Christians not doing God's will? You have made several claims regarding the (Two Witnesses) 1.) false prophet, 2.) gentiles, 3.) renegade Christians? Please post scripture to support your claims made, thanks