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  1. I've been otherwise occupied since I started this thread, and presently only have a limited amount of time to expand on it, but for those interested, here are seven study sections that cover the Babylon chapters (17 & 18) in the Book of Revelation. The Position of Babylon The Appearance of Babylon The Identification of Babylon The Conveyance of Babylon The Associations of Babylon The Termination of Babylon The Lamentation for Babylon Later...
  2. I've come across a new word being used by journalists, "infotainment". It's not so much the concept of information for entertainment that inspires me to comment, but rather the ease with which the general public at large are induced to behave in a particular way. Obviously there are competing factions involved and history is rich in details of regimes that rise to power for a time until their weakest link gives way and they are replaced by the champions of the day. The backlash against the colonialism of the British Empire is gaining momentum in my country, with the replacement of many European names considered inappropriate and culturally insensitive to the so-called indigenous tribes (who were themselves originally migrants) happening, and laws that require schools to teach Maori as an official language, and NZ history lessons to reference the evils of colonialism, being passed. Fast forward to the biblical account of the fall of Babylon and we gain insight into the behaviour of humanity wherein those who are aggrieved at the mess produced by the corrupt, deceiving, exploitative ideologies, technologies, and mediologies of their day, take serious retributive action that results globally in the complete disruption of services and total breakdown of society. God's purpose in allowing harlotry and tyranny to eventually bring down Babylon is perfect. Rev 17:15-18 (15) Then he said to me, "The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. (16) And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. (17) For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. (18) And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth."
  3. In one dimensional reasoning your point has merit, but it is by no means the complete presentation of how God's grace effects the salvation of sinners. I hope you can understand what these verses teach: God's Righteous Judgment: Romans 2:1-5 …3So when you, O man, pass judgment on others, yet do the same things, do you think you will escape God’s judgment? 4Or do you disregard the riches of His kindness, tolerance, and patience, not realizing that God’s kindness leads you to repentance? 5But because of your hard and unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of wrath, when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed.… Alive with Christ: Ephesians 2:1-10 1As for you, you were dead in your trespasses and sins, 2in which you used to walk when you conformed to the ways of this world and of the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience. 3At one time we all lived among them, fulfilling the cravings of our flesh and indulging its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature children of wrath. 4But because of His great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5made us alive with Christ, even when we were dead in our trespasses. It is by grace you have been saved! 6And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance as our way of life. Berean Study Bible ·
  4. I hope theses verses will clarify the situation, MSETI89. It is clear to me that hell is a place where the unrighteous are kept when they die. From there they are judged and then cast into the lake of fire. Rev_20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Rev_20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Simple Gospel Truth: If you have faith in the Lord Jesus Christ for your salvation your name will be in the book of life and you will not be cast into the lake of fire. Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
  5. Please keep asking your questions, miaandme. It will help you grow in your faith to have them discussed here. You mean "time frame". A fragrance is a smell. Gal 4:4 (4) But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, See how history now runs backwards and forwards from the event of Christ's incarnation.
  6. THE MADNESS OF REALITY Sensing wicked versus virtuous again and again, Crying right against wrong someone needs to explain. Telling much the same story on page after page, Aging war graves weep while insane battles rage. Tyrants obsessing crave glory their own, Dictators reigning with hearts made of stone, Terror fomenting from Satan's mad throne, Destiny reaping whatever is sown. [Copied from elswhere by permission of the author]
  7. What? Me bored? Never!!! But somethings are boring. Some people are boring. Some days and nights are boring, and definitely... some tasks are boring. Boredom is like an old couch, the more you endure it the worse it gets. I like lists. But if they are too long they can be boring. The fruit of the Spirit...there's a list. The gifts of the Spirit...there's a list. Paul's sufferings...there are lists of them. I like those lists, they are a source of joy, but not so the lists of loathings that lead to boredom. Did I mention loathings. Oh yes. Well it is my policy never to divulge the things I loathe, the reason being that in the wrong hands these can be perversely used to inflict more suffering on me, something that growing up with 5 siblings has taught me. Nevertheless, having to endure the loathesome ordeals of life can lead to boredom, and I believe boredom must be biblically addressed when it affects the body of Christ. Rom 12:1-2 (1) I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. (2) And be not conformed to this world: but be you transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Pro 18:16 (16) A person's gift makes room for them, and brings him before great people.
  8. Huh. You think you can fix the Babylonian institutional system of organised religion... better all God's people obey His Word and come out of it. 2Co 6:17 Therefore "COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM AND BE SEPARATE, SAYS THE LORD. DO NOT TOUCH WHAT IS UNCLEAN, AND I WILL RECEIVE YOU." Rev 18:4-8 (4) And I heard another voice from heaven saying, "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. (5) For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. (6) Render to her just as she rendered to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her. (7) In the measure that she glorified herself and lived luxuriously, in the same measure give her torment and sorrow; for she says in her heart, 'I sit as queen, and am no widow, and will not see sorrow.' (8) Therefore her plagues will come in one day—death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her.
  9. Are we following the Word of God, aligning with the Will of God, and doing the Work of God? If not why not? By all means we must challenge those who are transgressing, but we must repent of hypocrisy if we do not walk the talk. Rom 2:1-11 (1) Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. (2) But we know that the judgment of God is according to truth against those who practice such things. (3) And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God? (4) Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? (5) But in accordance with your hardness and your impenitent heart you are treasuring up for yourself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, (6) who "WILL RENDER TO EACH ONE ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS": (7) eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; (8) but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness—indignation and wrath, (9) tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek; (10) but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. (11) For there is no partiality with God.
  10. True. Agree 100%. I responded to the thread title with something Jesus said, and which we must not lose sight of.
  11. Do Not Judge: Matthew 7:3 …2For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 3Why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while there is still a beam in your own eye?… Berean Study Bible
  12. That's good. Let me ask you, What principle do you see being taught in these Scriptures? It's one that fills the Bible from start to finish. 2Co 6:14-18 (14) Be you not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship has righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion has light with darkness? (15) And what concord has Christ with Belial? (Satan) or what part has he that believes with an infidel? (16) And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? for you are the temple of the living God; as God has said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. (17) Wherefore come out from among them, and be you separate, says the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, (18) And will be a Father unto you, and you shall be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty. 1Co 10:20-22 (20) But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that you should have fellowship with devils. (21) You cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: you cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. (22) Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he? Rev 2:12-13 (12) And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things says he which has the sharp sword with two edges; (13) I know your works, and where you dwell, even where Satan's seat is: and you hold fast my name, and have not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwells.
  13. Not without a remedy for it. The Suffering Servant: Isaiah 53:6 …5But He was pierced for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed. 6We all like sheep have gone astray, each one has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all. 7He was oppressed and afflicted, yet He did not open His mouth. He was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so He did not open His mouth.…Berean Study Bible ·
  14. Deut 10:14: Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD’s your God, the earth also, with all that therein is. 1 King 8:27: But will God indeed dwell on the earth? Behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have built? 2 Chr 2:6: But who is able to build him a house, seeing the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain him? Who am I then, that I should build him an house, save only to burn sacrifice before him?
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