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  1. How do you reconcile your belief to this passage, especially its conclusion in boldface below? Gal 2:15-21 (15) We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, (16) knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified. (17) "But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is Christ therefore a minister of sin? Certainly not! (18) For if I build again those things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. (19) For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God. (20) I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me. (21) I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain."
  2. You mean we should ignore the Book of Hebrews? eg. Heb 7:12 (12) For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law.
  3. Excellent observation, nobleseed. As you may know the word Caesar became synonymous with emperor and morphed into Kaiser and Tsar. Also, the Third Reich of Nazi Germany takes its enumeration from the romanticised Holy Roman Empire, it being the first flourish, and the German monarchy that was abolished at the end of WWI being the second. The Nazis sought to legitimize their power historiographically by portraying their ascendancy to rule as the direct continuation of an ancient German past. They adopted the term Drittes Reich ("Third Empire" – usually rendered in English in the partial translation "the Third Reich"), first used in a 1923 book entitled Das Dritte Reich by Arthur Moeller van den Bruck,[9] that counted the medieval Holy Roman Empire (which nominally survived until the 19th century) as the first and the 1871–1918 monarchy as the second, which was then to be followed by a "reinvigorated" third one. This ignored the previous 1918–1933 Weimar period, which the Nazis denounced as a historical aberration, contemptuously referring to it as "the System". [Sourced from Wkpd] I have commented a number of times on the metaphorical beast from the sea and its representation of 7 historical empire peaks of control that ultimately contribute to a global empire or one world government as follows:
  4. Hold that thought, Neighbour. For your edification see below how the desire of Israel for a king was a rejection of God's sovereignty, and how it is described in Scripture as evil and wickedness. Likewise praylessness is described as a sin. Also, consider King Saul in particular, and then go through all the Kings of Israel & Judah one by one, noting those the Bible condemns as evil. Then peruse the actions of King Herod when wise men of the east came looking for "He who has been born King of the Jews" (Matthew 2:2) But most importantly I exhort you, don't ever forget that the kings of the earth commit fornication with the Whore of Babylon, "that great harlot that sits on many waters" (Rev 17:1) 1Sa 8:4-18 (4) Then all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah, (5) and said to him, "Look, you are old, and your sons do not walk in your ways. Now make us a king to judge us like all the nations." (6) But the thing displeased Samuel when they said, "Give us a king to judge us." So Samuel prayed to the LORD. (7) And the LORD said to Samuel, "Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them. (8) According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt, even to this day—with which they have forsaken Me and served other gods—so they are doing to you also. (9) Now therefore, heed their voice. However, you shall solemnly forewarn them, and show them the behavior of the king who will reign over them." (10) So Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who asked him for a king. (11) And he said, "This will be the behavior of the king who will reign over you: He will take your sons and appoint them for his own chariots and to be his horsemen, and some will run before his chariots. (12) He will appoint captains over his thousands and captains over his fifties, will set some to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and some to make his weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. (13) He will take your daughters to be perfumers, cooks, and bakers. (14) And he will take the best of your fields, your vineyards, and your olive groves, and give them to his servants. (15) He will take a tenth of your grain and your vintage, and give it to his officers and servants. (16) And he will take your male servants, your female servants, your finest young men, and your donkeys, and put them to his work. (17) He will take a tenth of your sheep. And you will be his servants. (18) And you will cry out in that day because of your king whom you have chosen for yourselves, and the LORD will not hear you in that day." 1Sa 12:16-25 (16) "Now therefore, stand and see this great thing which the LORD will do before your eyes: (17) Is today not the wheat harvest? I will call to the LORD, and He will send thunder and rain, that you may perceive and see that your wickedness is great, which you have done in the sight of the LORD, in asking a king for yourselves." (18) So Samuel called to the LORD, and the LORD sent thunder and rain that day; and all the people greatly feared the LORD and Samuel. (19) And all the people said to Samuel, "Pray for your servants to the LORD your God, that we may not die; for we have added to all our sins the evil of asking a king for ourselves." (20) Then Samuel said to the people, "Do not fear. You have done all this wickedness; yet do not turn aside from following the LORD, but serve the LORD with all your heart. (21) And do not turn aside; for then you would go after empty things which cannot profit or deliver, for they are nothing. (22) For the LORD will not forsake His people, for His great name's sake, because it has pleased the LORD to make you His people. (23) Moreover, as for me, far be it from me that I should sin against the LORD in ceasing to pray for you; but I will teach you the good and the right way. (24) Only fear the LORD, and serve Him in truth with all your heart; for consider what great things He has done for you. (25) But if you still do wickedly, you shall be swept away, both you and your king." It occurs that man's monarchies are a necessary evil. Rev 17:1-2 (1) Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and talked with me, saying to me, "Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, (2) with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication." Rev 17:18 (18) And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth."
  5. There's lots of Hugh Morris banter on this site, but you might have to avoid expletives and their substitutes, Cognostic. I have an inkling "damn" is frowned on in some circles. Its useage is common among the general population but borderline around many Christians in NZ, and visitors we had from the USA ranked it as a swear. My friend won't even allow "darn" or "blast", which gives me food for thought.
  6. Even 6 is wrong if you take the question literally. The earth was already in existence but without form, and empty or void before countable days became a factor. My work around is that as a whole the divine creation process was not complete without the 7th day of rest, and the day of rest was necessary to complete the perfect earth with everything approved of as good by God Himself. Welcome Cognostic. Thanks for the discussion.
  7. Oh No! Another commentless copy, paste, and run link. Sorry, Jonathan, but it's a pass from me on these unless the poster shares a thought or two.
  8. On the subject of monarchies, they are a fact of life. I have observed from the OT accounts of kings and queens and from historical records right up to the modern day, that monarchies are breeding grounds for corruption, deception, and exploitation. Some of the things that monarchs have done have been extremely evil, and some of these evil things have been done in the name of God. Henry VIII of England was a particularly nasty piece of work, who like so many monarchs, practised a form of piety when it suited him, and indulged in works of the flesh and facilitated Satan's agenda when so inclined at other times. This is the human condition, but having the wealth, power, prestige and authority that they do, monarchs and their families are always going to have difficulty abiding in Christ, which is why they need our prayers. Prince Charles and his wife Duchess Camilla are currently touring NZ so may God bring enlightenment to them and help them to serve both Him and the public according to His will. 1Ti 2:1-4 (1) Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, (2) for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. (3) For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, (4) who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. Sourced from NZ Herald Online
  9. Ok, Coliseum, you enjoyed this person's thoughts but you didn't post any of your own thoughts. Much gets said about the OT and the Law, but the thing is I wasn't raised by Judaisers so I haven't been "under the law" in that sense. The most I can do is recognise that there was a time when observance of the OT Law was required of Israel, and rejoice that indeed, now that God the Son has appeased God the Father on my behalf I don't have to try and appease Him by my works, so yes, we have a better covenant than Israel did.
  10. Oh dear Omega2xx. You seem to be challenged when it comes to posting coherently so let me help you improve. The above box is for previously posted comments that are being quoted. You have already been asked not to write your responses and comments in these boxes. When you do so you make it difficult to distinguish your input from the quotes of others. You may choose to view the Creation account as metaphorical but I consider it literal. When God said "Let there be light" after He had created the Universe, He provided literal, physical light. Believe it or not, the Universe was literally and physically in darkness prior to this, and of course this was prior to the existence of Adam and his helpmate Eve, so by the sixth day when they were made by God the sun was in place for the earth to orbit as it rotated day by day. Blessings from Michael37
  11. Hi omega2xx. I have to ask, "Were you there at the beginning of the Universe?" Your statement above contradicts Scripture. The reason God said "Let there be Light" is because it was previously absent from His newly created Universe. Sure, God is Light and there is always light in the infinite realm of His eternal Presence, but until God spoke into the deep darkness of the newly created Universe there was no visible light in it. Gen 1:1-4 (1) In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. (2) The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. (3) Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. (4) And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness.
  12. Moved on years ago. A little leaven leavens the whole lump.
  13. Everything including Adam and Eve was created to last indefinitely, so trying to make the Holy Bible fit worldly science is not worthy of Bible-believing followers of Christ. Check out Romans 8 where corruption or decay is described as bondage. Before death and decay came through the disobedience of Adam everything was functioning according to its design with no corruption occurring by ageing or any other means: Currently we and all creation wait for deliverance from all that is imperfect... Rom 8:20-22 (20) For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; (21) because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. (22) For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.
  14. Well bless you, whomever you are. BTW, It's Revelation, singular. The Book of Revelation is so called from the wording of it's first verse: Rev 1:1 (1) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: No need to respond.
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