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I don't believe/Reject in your Spiritual realm interpretation. It is a product of Man, not God. Anyone can come up with anything. But when Jesus's feet return to the Mt. of Olives that is real physical. When the soles of Jesus's feet walk in the Temple, that is real physical. When the Mt. of Olives splits, that is real physical. The Battle of Armageddon, that is real physical. When Israel have their sins removed in a single day, that is real physical. When evil spirits come out of the mouths of the dragon, beast and False prophet, that is real physical. When 1/3 of the earth is burned up, that is real physical. When wormwood affects the streams and springs, that is real physical. When 200,000,000 come out of the East, that is real physical. The 1000 year reign of Christ, that is real physical. In Christ Montana Marv

6 Thousand years for creation, then God rested for 1 Thousand years. And the Israelites wandered in the desert almost 1.5 million years or was it they wandered for 4 hours. Scripture says 40 years. Rev 2:10 - and you will suffer persecution for 10 days; or did they suffer persecution for 10 Thousand years The Heathen do not inherit the Kingdom of God. But your heathen of Zech 14:18 do inherit God's kingdom. In Christ Montana Marv

Six times in Rev 20 mentions the 1000 years. Fabricated by John through Jesus Christ. And Heathen being in your New Jerusalem (Zech 14:18) is a different story. Heathen meaning Ungodly, not believing in Christianity. Sometimes without morality. Cunning, Liars. Looks like All of Death and Hades did not go into the Lake of Fire. Some slipped into your New Jerusalem. Heathens In Christ Montana Marv

Potential SIN for the Heathen (Unbeliever) I had the impression that only Glorified Saints (Believers) would occupy the New Jerusalem. No Canaanite - Heathen in the New Jerusalem. Thanks for your words of wisdom. In Christ Montana Marv

But you are giving Christ 2000 years or more to build the New Jerusalem, Not a very good comparison. Plural for the One Bride, which is made up of many many Jews and Gentiles. The New Jerusalem is not occupied until after the formation of the New Heaven and the New Earth. It is for all the Just from Adam to when the camp of God is surrounded at the end of the 1000 years (Rev 20:7-9). John sees the Lamb/Christ sitting on the Throne in Heaven and this before the scroll is even opened, he does not mention a Temple, which is God and the Lamb in the New Jerusalem.. But you said we as Believers occupy this New Jerusalem when it is being built. Now you say it will not be in use until after it comes down. See below The main problem here is that all the Just from all the history of mankind will occupy this New Jerusalem, not just Believers/the Bride. And we do not get an early room. In Christ Montana Marv

And you always miss Zech 14:18, 19 - If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The Lord will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. This is the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. Disobedience is SIN. Punishment of the nations; result from SIN. No Rain. You proclaim Zech 14 is the New Heaven and the New Earth and the New Jerusalem. Yet, Scripture states that there is SIN during this time. Can't have both. Zech 14 is the 1000 year reign of Christ. He will rule the nations with a rod of iron. Disobedient nations. In Christ Montana Marv

Gold laced wingtips with soft pearl soles In Christ Montana Marv

I am in the Father's house in Heaven with my Lord Jesus Christ, waiting for others to follow. In Christ Montana Marv

No; This is after the GWT judgment, Eternity future to us. All have glorified bodies in the New Earth, New Heaven and New Jerusalem. No Sin exists. Death and Hades have been cast into the Lake of Fire. In Christ Montana Marv

It seems like this post quieted things down a bit. Sin in what some have identified as their New Heaven and New Earth. In Christ Montana Marv

Not Scriptural supported. All conjecture. The for you/these are the N.T. Believers, see v, 16; they are given a Counselor, the Spirit of Truth. 2000 years to construct something which God can created by His own mouth. Say it and it is done. Not seen/reported by John when taken into Heaven. The Temple in Jerusalem Ezk 43: 1-7. So what you are implying is the Bride will be in (your view of the unfinished New Jerusalem in Heaven); Then will return with Christ to this earth, and not be in (your unfinished New Jerusalem); Later to dwell in the fully constructed New Jerusalem. Why would Christ want us His Bride living/dwelling in an unfinished building, when all others enter when it is fully constructed? That after the 1000 years. In Christ Montana Marv

That's not implied at all. The us in John 14 is referring to Spirit filled Believers see John 14:16. And Jesus is preparing a place for them the Bride. This is only referring to the Bride. Ye,t the New Jerusalem will have many many more. The Just of Israel, The Just of Pre-flood, the Just of Post Flood. Those of the nations who did not follow Satan's last campaign and the Bride. In Christ Montana Marv

Yet, Jesus said in john 14 that He is going to the Father's house to prepare a place for us. That where I am (the Fathers House),; I will come back and take you to be with me. You know the way to the place where I am going. All about the Fathers House. In Christ Montana Marv

Interpreting the Apocalypse spiritually or of the past will result in thousands of differing views and false assumptions. In Christ Montana Marv

Everything from now on is Future; Tomorrow is future. When Christ returns ALL will know it is Him. He ascended up from the Mt. of Olives, and he shall return in like manner as He went up. Every eye will see Him. The King of Kings and Lord of Lords will require worship of all those who reside on the Earth. No fables here. But there is another who appears 7 years before our King of Kings and Lord of Lords. This person along with the False Prophet will be thrown alive into the Lake of Fire near the end of the 70th Week. In Christ Montana Marv

Yet 14:16 - 19 says there is Sin in your New Heaven and Earth. Disobedience of not taking part of the Feast of Tabernacles. The Plague of no Rain will happen for those who do not observe. SIN It is best to put Zech 12 to 14 in the 1000 reign of Christ where it belongs. For we all know that the nations sin during this time. Christ must rule with a rod of iron. In Christ Montana Marv

You always leave this out. v 18 If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The Lord will bring on them the Plague he inflicts on nations that do not go up to celebrated the Feast of Tabernacles. Egyptians are singled out among the nations. Don't observe, no Rain (SIN) No rain is the Plague he inflicts on nations who do not observe the Feast of Tabernacles. Disobedience is SIN So with a loud voice you proclaim that there is SIN in the New Heaven and on the New Earth. In Christ Montana Marv

Have Death and Hades been cast into the Lake of Fire yet? NO If we are in the New Heaven and the New Earth as you say. We have no more Testimony to proclaim. No one to proclaim it to. All have glorified eternal bodies, of which no one here has. We are still waiting for the Seal, Trumpet and Bowl judgments, Armageddon and the Second Coming, all of which are future. In Christ Montana Marv

Yes, Jesus does warn us of your teachings. Waiting for the King of Kings and Lord of Lords to descend to the Mt of Olives is what Israel is waiting for. False teaching, Misapplied Scripture is what you pedal.. Yet, maybe there is hope for some of these individuals. Zech 8:3 - This is what the Lord says; I will return to Zion and dwell in Jerusalem. Zech 8:4 - This is what the Lord Almighty says; Once again men and women of ripe old age will sit in the streets of Jerusalem, each with cane in hand because of his age. The city streets will be filled with boys and girls playing there. Will there be the need for canes in the New Heaven and the New Earth for all things are new, all have glorified eternal bodies. v.23 - In those days ten men from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, Let us go with you because we have heard that God is with you. Zech 14:8 - On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half to the eastern sea and half to the western sea in summer and winter. Remember no Seas in the New Heavens and New Earth. v. 20 - On that day HOLY TO THE LORD will be inscribed on the bells of the horses, and the cooking pots in the Lord's house will be like the sacred bowls in front of the altar. Every pot in Jerusalem will be holy to the Lord Almighty, and all who come to sacrifice will take some of the pots to cook in them They come to sacrifice This is all about the 1000 year reign of Christ. Those who reject this preach the spirit of antichrist In Christ Montana Marv

We still have seas and oceans. None in the New Heaven and New Earth We have wars and rumors of wars. None in the New Heaven and New Earth We have disobedience and death. None in the New Heaven and the New Earth The Second Coming is yet to come, Still good and evil; Jew and Gentile, Just and Unjust. The Bride of Christ is still being formed as God draws us into the Kingdom. In Christ Montana Marv

Did you get yours from the Gideon's. A well read Bible is a good Bible. In Christ Montana Marv

We do the Lord's Supper. The Feast of Tabernacles, yes in a way. We are to give first fruits. The first lamb/animal offspring is to be given to God, and in so doing you by Faith are acknowledging to God that He will provide more lambs or offspring through that animal. One gives God the First, He will provide the rest. If One gives God scrapes, He will give scrapes back, no Faith involved. In Christ Montana Marv

No. In Zech 14:16-19 it is the Gentile nations who are commanded to observe the Feast of Tabernacles. This is during the 1000 reign of Christ. The Feast of Tabernacles lasts for seven days is about bringing offerings after the harvest to the Lord . In the same way those surviving nations are to bring a gift from their harvest to the King of Kings. A gift of their bounty. If they do not provide their bounty at the Feast of Tabernacles, there will be no rain for the following season. We as Believers really do not need to keep any of the Jewish Holidays or Feasts. Many are a direct correlation to the attributes of the Godhead and how to approach the Godhead. To them for them. But we are instructed to break bread and partake in the New Covenant of His Blood frequently as was done at the Last Supper. Communion to us. This until He comes for us. Primary ordnance for Believers. It all came down to: Love the Lord thy God with all your mind, soul and spirit; Love yourself, then you are able to love your neighbor. In Christ Montana Marv

Yes, until we are glorified with Him. And we also are flesh and blood here to be salt of the earth and lamp on top of a hill. A witness to the Gospel. In Christ Montana Marv

False. And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among men. In Christ Montana Marv