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  1. And except those days should be shortened.

    Maybe what is being cut short is the length of daylight in a 24 hour period. We see there is scorching heat. And 1/3 of the sun has lost it's light, which would mean 1/3 longer nights. In Christ Montana Marv
  2. Defense of the Pre Trib Rapture

    Let us look at this differently. Can anyone on this forum tell me what the next trial or set of circumstances God will give you to go through over the next few weeks. Will you be successful or must you repeat it. If you are unable to forcast what God has planned for you, how can you say that you will make it through a trial or tribulations in the future which you already know which will happen. The S, T, and B judgements. Will you forcast this and try to accumulate seven years of medications, most of which you can only get a three month supply. In Christ Montana Marv
  3. The Remnant Will be Saved

    Roy So are these judgements targeting the land of Israel or the whole world. I say the whole world. In Christ Montana Marv
  4. The Remnant Will be Saved

    Roy Why not go back to the 1st Trumpet - 1/3 of the earth was burned, 1/3 of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up. Is this world wide or only involving the land of Israel? I say it is world wide. The 2nd Trumpet - 1/3rd of the Seas turned to blood (world wide or Israel)? 3rd Trumpet - 1/3 of the rivers and springs turn bitter from wormwood. (world wide or Israel). Then Rev 8:13 - Woe, Woe, Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, because of the trumpet blasts about to be sounded by the other three angels. Then the 5th Trumpet - who do the locust like creatures, with the sting of a scorpion affect. But only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads. Now are those affected only in the homeland of Israel, or is this world wide. Then go to the 4th Seal where 1/4 of the earth are killed by sword, famine, and plague, and by the wide beasts of the earth. (world wide or Israel). Or the 6th Seal where the kings of the earth, the princes, generals the rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man...... Now are all these kings of the earth, the princes, generals,..,,, world wide or of Israel. So now one needs to make a choice. Do the S, T, and B judgments affect the whole world or just the land of Israel. I say these judgments affect the Whole World. In Christ Montana Marv
  5. Defense of the Pre Trib Rapture

    They are "His people" whether in obedience or disobedience. They are a called out people, nation. In Christ Montana Marv
  6. Defense of the Pre Trib Rapture

    Rachel was Jacob's wife not an Israelite, she was the birth mother to some of the tribes of the Israelite's. She was from Haran, most likely near Ur of the Chaldean's , Abraham's homeland. They still cling to pagan gods at this time, it just looks different. Pagan worship was part of the norm in Abraham's time, and was past from generation to generation. You brought up a good point, pagan worship affected both the Israelites and the heathens of other nations. But only the Israelites were under the wing of God. So you have not brought up anything new. In Christ Montana Marv
  7. Defense of the Pre Trib Rapture

    So when did Ruth become accepted under the wing of the God of Israel? At birth maybe as all the other Jews. In Christ Montana Marv
  8. Defense of the Pre Trib Rapture

    This is what Boaz said in Ruth 11,12 - I have been told all about what you have done for your mother-in-law since the death of your husband. How you left your father and mother and your homeland and came to live with a people you did not know before. May the Lord repay you for what you have done. May you be richly rewarded by the Lord, the God of Israel, under whose wings you have come to take refuge. It is evident that Ruth was not of (a people) - (Israel, Jews), which she did not know of. Then she is now able to take refuge under the wings of the God of Israel since she came back with Naomi to Naomi's homeland. Israel as a whole has always been under the wings of God, no matter where they lived. But now Ruth has been invited in to their people, the Jews. She was not counted as being under the umbrella of the God of Israel, and now she is counted. This proves Ruth was a Moabite Woman, not of Israel. In Christ Montana Marv
  9. The Remnant Will be Saved

    Rev 9: 18-21. One third of mankind was killed by the three plagues of fire, smoke and sulfur....... The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the work of their hands; they did not stop worshiping demons and idols........ Nor did they repent..... Here we have 1/3 of mankind being killed. Who's left, the rest of mankind, Scripture says they continued to worship demons and idols. So demon and idol worship was prevalent prior to the 6th Trumpet and all of mankind was doing it. This is why Christ must rule with a rod of iron, to Lord over the past practices of these people. All of Israels sins and trespasses and iniquities will have been forgiven at the Second Coming, they will anoint the Most Holy as their King at that time; Thus fulfilling the six tasks of Dan. 9:24. In Christ Montana Marv
  10. The Remnant Will be Saved

    During the Mill. Christ rules during the 1000 years with a rod of iron. A lot of demon and idol worshipers from all nations come out from the Great Tribulation and into the Mill. Read Rev 9:20,21. And we as Believers, His Bride will reign with Him. In Christ Montana Marv
  11. Defense of the Pre Trib Rapture

    Yes the sons of this worldly kingdom will be cast into outer darkness. There time for doing good or evil is now, We are judged for what we do in this world, They did not help the poor, feed the needy, cloth those without clothes, go to those in prison; those who did not, are cast into the outer darkness, Those who did do these thing go into everlasting righteousness. Our citizenship is in heaven, though we are here on this earth. In Christ Montana Marv
  12. The Remnant Will be Saved

    In this verse I think of those going into the Body of Christ, NT Believers. Read 2 Cor 1 - To the church of God in Corinth, together with all the saints throughout Achaia. The day of Salvation is now and still continues. In this verse I think of those going into the Body of Christ, not Israel. All Israel is not saved until the Second Coming. In Christ Montana Marv
  13. Defense of the Pre Trib Rapture

    The Scriptures you quoted are the here and now, not the 1000 year reign of Christ. Outer darkness is the Lake of Fire, never to return. In Christ Montana Marv
  14. The Remnant Will be Saved

    Taking a closer look at the above; Israel still transgresses, they still sin, they have not reconciled for their iniquity, they have not experienced everlasting righteousness, there continues to be vision and prophecy, and they have yet to anoint the Most Holy, remember they crucified Him. You need to show where Daniels people (all of Israel) and the holy city (Jerusalem) have met all these criteria. Zech 3:9b says I will remove the sin of this land in a single day. Zech 8:23 - In those days, ten men from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, "Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you". The only conclusion which can be made is the 70th Week is still in the future. In Christ Montana Marv
  15. Defense of the Pre Trib Rapture

    May I call you God the Father. Matt 24:36 - No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Matt 25:1 - At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. v.6 - At midnight the cry rang out; Here is the bridegroom, come out and meet him. v.13 - Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or hour. According to what you seem to believe, the five foolish virgins did not see the Second Coming, they went to buy more oil, they got left behind. Rev 1:7 - Look he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. The thing is at Midnight (or the last hour) the shops would be closed and they(the five foolish virgins) would have to wait until morning the next day to buy their oil. So the Rapture and Second Coming as a one two punch is out of the question. In Christ Montana Marv
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