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Montana Marv

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  1. Christ as Israel

    You don't have the correct sequence. First it is God's name. Second the name of the New Jerusalem. Third the new name of Christ. All these written on them. The New Jerusalem is yet future. So is the name of Christ written on them. In Christ Montana Marv
  2. Christ as Israel

    Israel is the one who has a new name. Not Christ In Christ Montana Marv
  3. Christ as Israel

    Christ is the Vine. The Church is grafted into the Vine. So shall Israel be grafted into the Vine. In Christ Montana Marv
  4. Christ as Israel

    True Eph 5:23 24 - For the husband is head of the wife, as Christ is head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ,wives should submit to their husbands in everything. v.32 This is a profound mystery, but I am talking about Christ and the church. In Hosea, Israel is portrayed as the Adulteress wife. The Church is portrayed as the Bride without spot or wrinkle. In Christ Montana Marv
  5. The Day of the Lord

    Joe This is just a saying. In my grandfather's day, it would take 30 days to walk across Montana, walking only during the day. A day has 3 meanings. One must figure in the times of the events, their length of duration. For the S, T, and B judgments. So does the Wrath begin at the first Woe, or the first Trumpet. In Christ Montana Marv
  6. Who are the 144,000...?

    After this Israel will receive their new bodies and be "changed" into spirit at the second resurrection. Those out of the tribes who were not called back into the kingdom during the millennium, will be judged with the heathen at the White Throne Judgement. God's promise will be kept, but not in the order men make out it's to be, for all must take place according to God's plan. The first will be last, and the last will be first. Repentance must come first. Mercy is that chance to be spared to make atonement by changing the heart to produce good fruits. This cannot be done in the grave but can only be done when truth is learn't and practised. The old covenant was done away with when Christ died on the Cross. Israel did not recognise the new Covenant, therefore God will make a new one with them at the start of the millennium. They will only understand then, for they will witness the power of Christ, the one they rejected, who came to save them as prophesied, and will be in great mourning for him, ...eager to please him, ready to start a new page. Not one of them will fail for all will be filled with the spirit of Christ. Much of what you posted is right on. Why don't you believe what you posted. One must be a physical Jew before he becomes a spiritual Jew. Noting wrong here, but they do not believe until the 2nd Coming, and all is forgiven. True, So will the 144,000, 12,000 from each of the tribes listed, as spoken, in Rev 7. All will be fulfilled as spoken. Jewish The Saints will rule with Christ over both Israel and the other nations. Judah was not the royal blood line, David who was his seed was. David was the Royal Bloodline, King David. Luke 2:4 - S0 Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David. Judah was the 4th child of Leah. We as believers are as a Royal Priesthood; 1 Peter 2:9. Close (I wish others would also see it this way), some time before the GWT Judgment, those righteous of Israel and anyone else who becomes righteous during the Mill will receive their glorified body. This is part of the first Resurrection, just at a different time frame, from those who previously received their new bodies. Yes, Israel is still in Unbelief, but what was promised to them by God still stands. Irrevocable. When they see the One who they have pierced (at or near the 2nd Coming), then they will believe and be Saved. Thus fulfilling Dan 9:24. They now have received the six benefits listed. Most of your sequence is correct. Now you must believe what you have written. Don't try to spiritulize everything, Most if not all prophecy is in the Physical Nature, not Spiritual, there maybe some Spiritual lessons learned though. How else would one know if it were true and thus differentiate between and True or False Prophet. A Prophecy must be 100% accurate to be true. Anything less makes it a False Prophecy. In Christ Montana Marv
  7. Who are the 144,000...?

    The problem I see here is that these 144,000 were sealed well before the 2nd Coming. So they are still under the old covenant when this prophecy is given, they were also numbered and by the exact Tribes listed. They are on this side of the Mill. Yet you want to put a value on them which is on the other side of the Mill. That does not work. In the spiritual or in the physical. See how you are intermingling two different eras to push your agenda. "So this means" what. In Christ Montana Marv
  8. Who are the 144,000...?

    That is the point, Physical Israel will enter into the Mill in the flesh; So will individuals from other nations and languages. Zech 8:24 - This is what the Lord Almighty says; In those days ten men from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, 'Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you'. So among those on the earth in the flesh during the Mill, God has bestowed a higher honor to those of Israel. Their disobedience is remembered no more. Their carnality is gone. Why do you think Christ must rule with a rod of iron? The 12 Tribes listed in Rev 7 are the 12 Tribes listed in Rev 7. Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy Rev 1:3. So what John has written as prophetic, you change to mean something else. Now the warning. Rev 22:18,19 - I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book; If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book; And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the Tree of Life and in the holy city, which are described in the book. So you are substituting 12,000 from each of the 12 Tribes of Israel which is listed in this prophecy and symbolizing them with Christian now. So, are you adding or taking away what is said in this prophecy. I will let you be the judge, do you want more plagues, or removing your share to the Tree of Life. In Christ Montana Marv
  9. Who are the 144,000...?

    This is totally Untruthful. Where do you come up with this garbage. Abraham, Issac and Jacob were offered a Covenant by God. Irrevocable. A People (the nation of Israel, comprised of 12 Tribes). A Land (the present Promise land of Israel and more), and a Blessing (Jesus Christ). All these are Irrevocable. God cannot take away what He has Promised. If you give these to someone else, then God is a Liar. So what do you say? This is Gods promise to them, not their promise to God. It is a One Way Street. They will accept their Messiah, when they see the one who they have pierced. This is Gods Grace poured out on them, on His timing not yours. In Christ Montana Marv
  10. Who are the 144,000...?

    Thank you for reinforcing to us that Dan 9:24 has not been fulfilled. Dan 9:24 is a mandate that Daniels People (Israel) will accept their Messiah by the end of the 70th Week. 70 - Sevens have been determined, decreed for Israel TO do What.... Now if you say that Daniels People did not fulfill this mandate as prophesied, Then the whole 70 - Sevens is a false prophecy. Make your choice. In Christ Montana Marv
  11. Who are the 144,000...?

    Sister If the 70th Week is past and fulfilled, why is it then that Daniel's People and Daniel's holy city have yet to receive the benefits given in Dan 9:24. 70 Sevens have been decreed, prophesied, determined, ordained, established, promised; for them TO.....do or receive the benefits of six things. Israel and Jerusalem have yet to receive and acknowledge them. If you believe the 70th Week is fully Past, and I believe the 70th Week is yet future; We have little in common, and will agree on very little. Which one of us is in Error with regard to the 70th Week? If you are correct, Israel is living in Bliss. If I am correct, Israel is still living under the cloud of Unbelief. In Christ Montana Marv
  12. Who are the 144,000...?

    Sister What you have stated here is not found in Scripture, it is an add on by you. These 144,000 (12,000 virgin males from each of the 12 tribes of Israel) are sealed during the 70th Week so Satan cannot harm or kill them. They are First Fruits from Israel, not of the Bride of Christ. We as Christian Believers are sealed with the Holy Spirit. Christ is our First Fruit, the first to receive an immortal body. Satan does harm us, and he is sometimes allowed to kill Believers. In Christ Montana Marv
  13. Who are the 144,000...?

    Sister The Lamb is the Good Sheppard, where ever He goes they will follow. He does not arrive to this earth again until the 2nd Coming, then they can follow Him their Sheppard where ever He goes about the earth. Do you consider yourself one of the 144,000? In Christ Montana Marv
  14. The Day of the Lord

    Joe If timing is everything. The Trumpeted judgments could easily last one year or more. No specific date given when they begin during the 70th Week. The Bowls judgments could easily last at least another 6 months. Just as the 4 angels who hold back the Euphrates River, they have a specific hour, day, and year already established. A judgment on who or whom. If all who were to be judged have already died before the rains even stopped, there is no one for His Wrath to fall on. Do you see my point. You are cherry picking a few verse and trying to fit your eschatology stance in them. In Christ Montana Marv
  15. Israel and Judah: When Will They Be Reunited?

    Good recap. They will be joined with one king over them. Jesus Christ their Messiah. Onset of the Mill. In Christ Montana Marv