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Of course you know one purpose of our Chistian journey is to build character and how is that going to happen if we don't have battles? Everyone has an inroad where God allows Satan to buffet us. Sounds like you just shared yours. I think an upside is to see this as an opportunity rather than a problem.
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Three friends were at a viewing for another that had passed on.
As they were deep in thought one says: what would you like to have said about you when you're there?
The first says that he would like to be remembered for all his good deeds.
The next says he would like to be remembered for being a faithful member of their assembly.
The third simply says 'HE MOVED!'
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First off they are virgins (christian). The five wise were sealed in into the day of their 'redemption' the five foolish are saved through the judgement. The Bride does not go to the judgement, as Paul says 'dont you know we will judge men and angels' you can't be a judge and be judged at the same time...
The oil is of course the Holy Spirit, there is a difference between the anointing of the spirit and to be sealed. Scripture also says 'then let those that are righteous be righteous still and those that are filthy be filthy still'. Once the Bride is gone and the Holy Spirit ceases to dwell on earth to convict man - then that is the time the foolish virgins will stay where they are and will rise in the second resurrection for the judgement. This is a good topic but a big one, more than can be done at this time. Scripture is perfect and everything fits.
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A lot of good responses here.
I agree that all religions are man made and the only real one is the one in Him.
I believe the problem is that when God delivers a truth people hold up the gift instead of the Giver and since they are the ones 'holding' it they assume the position of judge (denominational 'I'm in you're out' spirit).
By natural birth, being in a finite fallen condition, we look 'unto' which implies discernment and we tend to gravitate in the direction of our sense experience/intellect.
It is only the Lord that can keep us on the straight and narrow.
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Hello everyone,
I am looking for advice on something that has plagued my mind for a while.
Firstly, you should probably know that I see myself as a soft agnostic: due to the world's brightest disagreeing on crucial aspects of religion and philosophy, I see no way to make a decision on what is true (corresponding to the facts). Because of this conclusion, and my intense fear of hell in the afterlife, I decided that there had to be a way to decide on a worldview without trusting man's opinions. Since I was raised in a Christian home, I've chosen to first investigate the Holy Spirit's role in bringing about belief to individuals. That is why I am posting on this forum. I want to know how exactly the Holy Spirit is instrumental to intellectual belief, and I would like to know if the Spirit gives us something other than faith to convince us of Christianity's truth. What does the Bible say on the matter? Natural theology is never going to convince me of anything. God is essentially hidden, so how, other than pragmatical reasons and ignorance, do people come to be Christians?
Shane
Hello Shane
Sounds like a worthy pursuit.
So you have grown up in a Christian family and heard it all but you want some laboratory proof.
I agree that one religion may be as good as another. Some may be more adept at stimulating the senses others find their strength in binding their members by one means or another but then of course you are looking for some proof that transcends all of that - but still touches the senses?
Perhaps the proof you are looking for cannot be taken but must be given and if it is given then it must come by the chosen way of the Giver. I believe if we can really yield our self (that being the catch) then the Word says He is more willing to give than we are to receive.
You also say you would like to know how exactly the Holy Spirit is instrumental to intellectual belief outside of faith.
I would rather have faith then things will happen, my intellect will stay in the ground. (There is an intelligence on the other side but not one that is tied to our biological makeup.)
His Word requires believing more than explaining.
I would also like to say that God isn't hidden we just have to have eyes to see.
You know the story of the Syrophenician woman - she seen the Pharisees did not.
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Let me ask you this.
Is the love for your father, mother and children going to save you?
I believe love is an attribute of God. I believe the love that Jesus is referring to here is of a higher order, being part of Him. A possession rather than a response.
Surely we don't want to put the gift before the giver
If we have God in us we do His bidding and we even reap the fringe benfits such as long life.
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This is one of my burning questions and I have to hear it from a group of people.
we all heard of this....
God created man, and man created religion.
what is Christianity to Religion and to Sprituality ?
is it both ?
I ask this question because, there are many rules in the church and also it very fear based they teach you to fear more than love. For example, a holy man fears the lord, or they say. you should be afraid to go to Helll cause you'll burn.
Your thoughts................
I believe there is a lot of trueth in what you say because we were created to worship - thereby the many religions. If we say we are not religious we are only fooling ourselves because we all worship something be it material goods our intellect, popularity etc. As for our churchs and their rules they may be just fine but we know that these things will all fail and stay in the ground - only God is the giver of life. We can be religious and spiritual but that 'spiritual' has to line up with the Word or it isn't God's Spirit.
Scripture says that if we seek Him with all our heart He will reveal Himself to us.
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The short answer: I think it is only proper for the groom to propose to the bride.
I believe the natural types the spiritual and God has an order.
He is the groom and we are the bride - He chose us.
Living according to the Spirit's leading is a higher calling and not goverened by cultural or current trends. God does not change with the times.
I have seen it and experienced it that the Spirit always acts the same. When a person has a conversion experience irregardless of race and color the result is always the same.
We are only fooling ourselves if we claim to be Christians and then go our own way - 'the broad way'.
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Thank you 2404 for your comments.
An example of my thinking on this topic can be found at
I had forgotten that I had already said this, I am nearly 83 years old, and my memory is no where as good as it used to be.
Bless you.
Edwin.
Good Morning to you
83 that is amazing.
You are an inspiration...
The Word never gets old.
Fresh every day because it is our bread.
God bless you my friend.
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Our 17 year old daughter has a friend who is part of a Baptist youth group and they were to write out letters of encouragement for each other. Last night our daughter wrote a letter to her friend which contained a poem that I thought was pretty good.
I would like to share it with you.
You Are
you are
the blade of grass
that pokes through the snow
the first dawn of light
after the stormy night
the baby's first breath
life that comes after death
you are
the source of strength
that everyone draws from
the power behind nations
hope in the form of patience
even through commotion
you set change in motion
you are
the sentence with no period
and the thought free of prison
the heights that have no end
in a crowd you cannot blend
the shining northern star
the one who will go far
you are
Hellen Keller, Anne Frank,
and Rosa Parks all in one
the future of yersterday
the gift of today
the phoenix of forever
you're the greatest treasure
you are
blooming adolescence
pure vitality
glowing paragon
charismatic spirit
beautiful girl
wholesome soul
awesome potential
a powerhouse
(name of person)
youare
you are
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Your help in resolving the following will be much appreciated.
Rom 5:14 Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.
In what way is Adam a type of Jesus?
And what is your understanding of.
1Ti 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
How would Eve be saved though her childbearing?
1Ti 2:15 - but she will be saved through her child-bearing, if they continue in faith, love, and sanctification with sobriety.
Thank you.
Edwin.
Hello Edwin
How does this sound?
Adam came by the Spoken Word and was therefore perfect. He knowingly entered into the transgression for the love of his wife but was not able to redeem her as Christ did His bride.
What Adam did is a type of Jesus Christ's descension.
Eve's transgression has to do with the ushering in of life, from the perfect to the permissive, therefore if she is faithfull in her assigned position (living by the Word) in the fallen condition she shall be saved.
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Yes, I expect we are at odds.
I enjoyed the reading and I suppose I should have let it go at that.
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I think you need to take some classes in simplifying your thoughts, but I do think I get your thought.
I think this is a bit simpler put but tell me if I am wrong....
Rom 10:8-10
9 That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
NIV
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The rain falls on the just and unjust. &
Many are called but few are choosen.
Have room in the mix?
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There is something as God's permissive will and due to our human nature we might strive for it but 'God grant me grace to be settled on His perfect will'.
I think if we find our self begging we are a little off base.
God's mind doesn't need changing, I am the one that needs to be adjusting.
If I can walk in His Word then there is no question - I already have it - though it may not yet be realized.
I think begging, as Other One noted, is usually associated with self perceived shortfalls.
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AlrightWho said space is finite instead of infinite. The created planets and stars etc may be the finite items but space infinite.
Of course if you have infinitely large than you also have to have infinitely small.
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another one of those maddening questions...... you see where this can lead to....
Why does God's creation have to be finite?If space (dimension) is a creation then it is finite.
What is there outside of space?
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What ever has a beginning also has to have an end, at some point.
The only thing that is eternal is God.
If God's dwells in us then we have eternal life.
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you could drive yourself nuts dreaming of such things....
Thought maybe I could take somebody with me. :-)
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If space (dimension) is a creation then it is finite.
What is there outside of space?
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Hello Roy
Sounds to me like your heart is right but that you are getting hung up on reformation. Reformation is alright but I think what you are really after is sanctification. The scriptural process is Justification, Sanctification and then the Sealing. As I understand it the only real sin is unbelief for if we are believers everything else will follow. My suggestion is to stop beating yourself up, commit your ways whole heartedly to the Lord and find a good bible believing fellowship and stay there and let the Lord look after things. What you can do is feed on the Word faithfully come rain or shine.
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I appreciate our law and order, though it is flawed it is still better than most.
I think the key point here is the acknowledgement that church and state do not mix.
We know that this world is not redeemable - so let the dead bury the dead.
Jesus said to put away the sword because this is not His kingdom.
We can pose a lot of 'what - ifs' but this makes the scripture of non effect because God is omniscient and omnipotent and He cares for His children.
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In the OT it is under the law. It was a looking unto. The atonement had not yet been applied. Therefore eye for eye was just. Once the atonment has been applied 'by grace we receive' so no one is justified in pointing fingers and certainly as Christian we do not have a right to take someones life.
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I had the same thing happen to me. As I grew older and as our lives played out it became visable that what I had wanted and tried to do was not really in my best interest. It wasn't that I was rejected, I just wasn't listening when God said no that's no good for you.
I am with you on that.
I suppose in our condition it is juvenile to ask why.
Looking back it seems a few simple turns could have put a person on easy street, but then that doesn't build character and of course Christ likeness is what it is all about.
Scripture says that our trials are more precious than gold - but it is not so easily realized on this side.
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Faith is an interesting thing. It is not an intellectual conception, you can not work your self into it, it has to be given.
The classic example; All Israel knew that God could deliver them but only David had the revelation that God would.
We know that faith cometh by hearing the Word of God so the best that I know it to stay right there until.
As it has been said, 'take the adopted baby until the real one comes'.
Same applies for healing 'by His stripes we are healed' - we need to confess that no matter what, for God can not lie. He said 'do you believe? He did not say 'did you feel it'?
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Wrong......Welcome to Worthy Ted
.Does it say anywhere in the Bible that the fruit Adam and Eve ate was not an apple?The above verse you gave means nothing.The Bible doesn't say that it was an apple to my knowledge.It could have been a pear or.....Thanks for the welcome Bopeep.
The verse I supplied above tells us we were allowed to eat from every tree that contains seeds right? That would indicate to me that either:
God had made an incomplete statement in this verse regarding the fact that we could eat from every tree that had seeds (because if the Knowledge Tree had seeds we were not to eat from it).
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The Knowledge tree had no seeds
If God had made an incomplete statement (He said "every" when it really wasn't so), can anyone clue me in as to how we would know (not assume) that God had indeed made the incomplete statement?
St.John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
What is your understanding of this verse?
that would be a good thread to ponder over but I fail to see how it fits into this thread.... what am I missing?
From the perspective of the Word being the tree of life and the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil being the eating from another source.
.Does it say anywhere in the Bible that the fruit Adam and Eve ate was not an apple?The above verse you gave means nothing.The Bible doesn't say that it was an apple to my knowledge.It could have been a pear or.....
Christian but still get buttons pushed
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Last 4 digits of my old phone number lol.