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Thank you all for your input. I'm thinking it would be a huge mistake at this point to rule out the book of Revelation as inspired especially since the penalty for doing so is so great according to it. I also asked God to reveal Himself to me at one time and He did. It was like I was in heaven for about five minutes. But I am also mentally ill, which is my thorn in the flesh, and sometimes I think things that are way off base without any kind of restraint. I haven't ruled out blasphemous things as possibilities, and this has been my sin.

Last night I had a dream and woke up to the Holy Spirit talking with me... The conclusion of my conversation with the Holy Spirit was that he told me to come to this message board and quote the following verses about myself. 1) Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked, who can know it?" 2) Romans 7:18, "For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me, but how to perform that which is goood I find not."

btw, I've never had an issue with the KJV.

I'm thinking maybe there was a deliberate distortion of these things in the NIV and the NASB. As such I don't think I can trust them or any other translation than the KJV, or else a look at the original Greek and Hebrew. It is a good point however that if satan is referred to as the morning star and Jesus as the Morning Star that Jesus is the genuine and satan is the fake. I think this is a good way of looking at it.

This brings up my next question. I have always thought that the Bible must be inspired because God would not allow His word to be compromised, and that He would preserve HIs word in any language or translation that it was given in. But clearly, the NIV and NASB translate Lucifer in Isaiah 14 as "morning star". Is this a mistranslation, and if so, why would God allow His word to be mistranslated like that, especially when the conclusion is so nasty? My faith in Jesus is not shaken. I know and have tasted that He is good. What is shaken in me is my faith in the veracity of the book of Revelation as inspired.

In Isaiah 14, the KJV, it says, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which did weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt mythroneabove the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit." The problem is, both the NIV and the NASB translate Lucifer, aka satan, as Morning Star! So what is to be done with Revelation 22:16? It says,"I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these thigns in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." If Jesus is the morning star then he is lucifer and satan according to a comparison to Isaiah 14. Now I have seen both Jesus and satan in visions and dreams, and I assure you that they are not one and the same person. However, if I am going to take all of the Bible as the inspired word of God, I would have to believe that Jesus was satan, and I have chosen instead to disregard Revelation 22:16 as having been added by someone, and I am not sure I can even accep the book of Revelationis inspired. Which deals with the next thing. The threat of Revelation 22:19 is that unless I accept the book of Revelation and this idea that Jesus is satan along with it, I will have my name taken out of the Book of LIfe and will have no part in the holy city. So I am asking if there is any way in your thinking that I can honeslty accept the whole of the book of Revelation when Revelation 22:16 puts forth the idea that it does. Salvation is based on confessing Jesus as Lord and believing that God raised him from the dead, according to Romans 10:9-10. Does this not contradict Revelation 22:19 if I both confess Jesus is Lord and believe that God raised Him from the dead and yet reject this verse in Revelation? Which brings up something else. If I reject one verse or one book in the Bible, where does it stop? Do I just pick and choose what verses and books to believe in? HELP!

Someone that is getting rid of a caffeinne addiction is thus deemed mentally unstable. What of those who are having withdrawals from other types of drugs? You would be considered mentally unstable for trying to get off of drugs. Well, I say, so be it. "For whether we be beside ourselves, it is for God: or whether we be sober, it is for your cause." 2 Corinthians 5:13