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I heard an argument made by a woman that it's Adams fault that Eve picked the fruit and ate it. Namely because as head of the household and the one who God initially warned about the danger, he should have ensured that Eve knew not to touch the fruit and because she didn't obey, thus when she disobeyed, Adam failed in his duty as man and leader of the home. Personally I think that one of the stupidest,biased, fact blind, buck passing arguments I ever heard, because the Bible clearly says that when Eve is approached by the serpent, she repeats the instructions given by God, showing that she had been warned and wasn't ignorant, thus chose to disobey out of her own informed decision. Thoughts

I heard an argument made by a woman that it's Adams fault that Eve picked the fruit and ate it. Namely because as head of the household and the one who God initially warned about the danger, he should have ensured that Eve knew not to touch the fruit and because she didn't obey, thus when she disobeyed, Adam failed in his duty as man and leader of the home. Personally I think that one of the stupidest,biased, fact blind, buck passing arguments I ever heard, because the Bible clearly says that when Eve is approached by the serpent, she repeats the instructions given by God, showing that she had been warned and wasn't ignorant, thus chose to disobey out of her own informed decision. Thoughts

similar to legalism is what my friend told me is theologizing - where people make speculation about Biblical fact that aren't actually said about the Bible and sometimes speak with tons of conviction about them as if their opinions are proven Biblical fact eg 1) I've heard it PREACHED that Adam wasn't deceived by the forbidden fruit but rather completely knew that it would cause him to die but he ate it because he loved Eve and loved her so much he didn't want to be without her???? Um where is that??? 2) Ive heard it preached that God uses people with shady pasts eg Mary Magdalene- prostitute -The bible in no way mentions Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. 3) A person once argued that Gravity doesn't exist because its not mentioned in the Bible. :hmmm:Well neither are cats, China , or germs. So are we to assume they don't exist either? 4) Another person spoke with serious conviction that Michal (Sauls daughter) was struck wih barreness as punishment by God for rebuking David for dancing before the ark. But while the bible says she bore no children. It in no way suggests God struck her with barrnenes as a punishment. Any more???

because "I" personally would not even think that or say that to you or anyone else,,,,,,,but honestly,I do not think you were addressing me specifically........... Thanks for clarifying "your beef"-lol I agree with you 100%,there is nothing wrong with a mans desire of his heart to be for a wife,,,,not at all & as I said,,,,"it really depends on the individual".If you are a Christian man that is complete in Christ & you would like to married then it will be an added Blessing to have a good woman for your wife,,,,,,,,that doesn't mean you are not filled with the Joy of our Lord,are you?People can be completely fulfilled with our Lord & not "needing" a spouse ,,,,wanting & needing is 2 different things,perhaps you would like children,a family?There is nothing wrong with that if that is what you would like,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, The person that truly believes they need a spouse to be happy is the one that I would be concerned for,,,,,,,,,,,,you should be joyful until ,in Gods Perfect time,He will Bless you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,& that much MORE will be added to you make sense? With love-in Christ,Kwik It was in general

The annoyance isnt with God but with people. Simply iv been asked when i say id like a spouse or tired of being single that ,if i didnt get married shouldnt having Jesus be enough. Which imo is not a really accurate thing to say and it actually makes it seem as if im 'wrong"for wanting a mate or spouse- something that is acknowledged as desirable or good in scripture several times. Were made to be social and wanting a person to share your life with is perfectly normal, non sinful desire so making a person who wants that in their life seem like theyre being wrong is imo insensitive ESPECIALLY if the person saying it has a spouse of their own. I know not all people will want to be married and thats on them, nothing wrong there, but you shouldnt try to make it out as if im wrong for wanting it in response

Have you ever noticed that such responses like that tend to come from married people or people who are in a relationship? They have their blessing and somehow you wanting the same thing is seen as being dissatisfied with Jesus?? I have always been turned off by that as well, because it assumes that your desire for a spouse is almost seen as if you denying the sufficiency of Christ. God hardwired people to be relational. You shouldn't have to choose between a spouse and Jesus. No one else who is married every feels that they had to make that kind of choice and so I think it is rather condescending of them to suggest that your dissatisfaction with being single is somehow a reflection on your relationship with Christ. So yeah, I totally get the annoyance you mentioned. TRUE DAT. Maybe we can ask if theyd willingly give up all they have for a life of solitude and see their response

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I was talking to a friend about wanting to be married, to which they commented- if i werent ever married, wouldnt having Jesus be enough? To me that statement really isnt accurate and is annoying to hear people tell others. I based this on that yes while our relationship with Jesus is very important and fulfills certain needs, it wont fill certain things a spouse will fill. I base this on the fact that even though God had a relationship with adam, he still recognised the need for him to have a mate and thus produced eve. And yes there are people who are destined to live alone, they have the mindset to want to live alone and not want anyone. So we really shouldnt tell someone that wants a spouse to say- You got Jesus, be happy. What do u think?

i have a pair of Christian coworkers who represent 2 ends of a spectrum- one is divorced and refuses to remarry unless its to their ex husband, the other is married to a divorcee. The divorced claims that the remarried is living in sin since in Matthew 19 Jesus points out that remarriage is adultery and should potentially end the marriage because of it. Im confused because is that the correct mode of action? I actually know of pastors who refuse to marry divorcees because of it. But should a remarried person take that path esp if the got remarried prior to accepting Jesus as Saviour

i dont mean legal. i mean on a spiritual sense

wow....just wow

i was having a debate with another christian on a story i heard about the aftermath of a church division. allegedly, a church split and one morning early, the leaving members came and dismantled parts of the building and left with it. Tell me which opinion you think is correct. Side 1- If the founding members of a church think that the current leadership is leading the church astray- on the level of Jim Jones cult likeness, then it'd be appropriate for them to take apart the building in order to stop him from using their building for wrong purposes. Side 2- the church belongs to no one, not even the founding members. Its God's building, so noone has the spiritual right to take it apart because they disapprove of what is going on in it. That action is spiteful, unchristianlike and sets a bad image of Christians.There are other ways to deal with said situations.

way i see it- when theres a lack of zebras, a lion will risk trying to eat a porcupine

I posted this earlier and it may have been deleted so ill try to rephrase it. In short, im a single 30 yr old male christian, been saved most of my life and actively serving for qute a few years. But i have seemed to pick up a very strong attraction for unsaved women namely those who dress immodestly- tattooed, with piercings etc. To the point where i find myself subconsciously trying to talk up to them even tho i know its unequally yoked and would probably end up ruining my life. also adding to the problem is the lack of appealing single christian women around and the "wait on God "lecture seems to be of none effect after hearing it, waiting and nothing occurring and seeing my younger or sometimes less committed christian friends getting hookedup and married off. How do you shake this feeling? And yes ive prayed about it. Its like telling someone who hungry, dont go for the unhealthy pizza, you MIGHT get a salad later. Meanwhile, sit and what while those other enjoy theirc meal

keep serving. your example may inspire him

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