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But yet this is sufficient. For the forgiveness of their sins. If they die the next moment all is well. They will die to Jesus Christ.

The much more is for men or for Jesus. PS I never refused clarification to anyone. Your statement is the same the Greeks said to Paul. Is not a bad one. The Jewish reaction to Paul was a bad one and they called him according to their interpretations of the scriptures non complementary names at the least in their thoughts. But some of them wanted to know. And Paul gave them his time. I quoted Paul when I responded to your post. That made me wonder why you did not get it. And it is not the first time.

yes I have and I just did but does that have to do anything with Matthew 24:29 and about the last days in Jesus Christ statement? Mathew 24:29 29 “Immediately after the distress of those days “‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

That is a true statement in the sense that it includes the Jews. This is why the Gospel had to be preached to them. And they were the first ones to here the Gospel and believed and their sins were forgiven in Jesus Christ. A word of caution because I did not include their works. Only said hear the Gospel and believe and their sins were forgiven in Jesus Christ. One more time I did not say that they asked for forgiveness because I said when they believed it happens. The moment they believed, it happens as they believe. I did not say what they do in deferent groups of believers only I said what is in scripture.

I am not in agreement with some of the things you said in the above quoted statement. In your statement is not mentioned that as children we have the mind of our family for our quidance even the mind of every one who took part and influence our upbringing. And at the same time we have our own mind. For this reason your statement is incorrect. We do not have only the Holy Spirit to quide us in Life. Many Spirit are competing for this position and we end up to be quided by many Spirits at the same time. This is why we should test and give the preeminence to the Spirit of Truth. We must learn to discern the quidance of the Holy Spirit. The quidance of the Holy Spirit is the same quidance Jesus will give us. As adults we speak and often we are wondering what we are talking about. And that can go either ways. We often correct ourselves along the way. Or we misguide our self without being conscious. What we read in the bible and it is possible and it's good to want it it's one thing and the reality in us is another reality. This is why we have to learn to discern. The truth is that the Holy Spirit is not the only one that quiding us in life. This is why we our being corrected day in and day out. We need to be careful. That's all.

The Bereans heard Paul's message and they said let's see what the scriptures say because Paul was reasoning with them from scripture. In this example bellow from Hebrews 1:2 we have statements in verse one. But the specifics are not given. BWhen Hebrews said something about the last days, he was referring to those days that had already pass. During the times Jesus sojourned in Israel. He said: God has spoken to us through his Son. Referring to something that has happened. We do not know if the specifics the Hebrews had considered were from Genesis or from other sources as rabbinical teachings. The discussion should be centered around the specifics and establish that they are found in reference to Genesis. But we are not given the specifics. Study the Berean way it cannot be done without the specifics and to establish that they are from scripture in Genesis or they are outsource and identified their origin. Like when Philip and the Enuch discussed Esaiah 53 they had the specific words in Esaiah 53. In verse two he is speaking to believers in Jesus Christ and yet without s scripture reference. For the study of the scripture itself. With Paul it was a very different situation. As he spoke to unbelieving Jews and reason with them the specific scriptures for days. We don't have the specific scripture references but we have the information that he did that with them. Later he said quite a few things to consider and made more statements but did he give the specific scripture reference for the Berean study? Did he give specific references of scripture to support his conclusions? Reading scripture can we say "here is the scripture that Justify what he said". In our days many speak giving scripture reference but they do not let us know of the study of the scripture it self. They claim it supports their statements but they do not show the specifics of their study to prove it. And very often the study of the specific scripture it says something else. Speaks of something else. The Bereans were testing but they were testing Paul's sayings. But did they allowed them selves to be tested in the same way? Today they say "the Bible says" but they did not got to know the specific context and test the context. They make statements about the context. And they do not test their statements in reference to the context. It's about the context of the statements Jesus made that "the moon will turn into blood and the stars will stop giving their light and fall to the earth ". Mathew 24:29 29 “Immediately after the distress of those days “‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’[a] Acts 2:20 The sun will be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and glorious day of the Lord coming. It's about the Glorious Day, the Magnificent Day of Jesus Christ. We need to ask our selves: Did Jesus had his Glorious and Magnificent day? And when was that? Hebrews 1:1-2 In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.

@truth7t7 Revelation 21:1KJV 1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And there was no more sea is referring to a group of people. It's referring to a mass of people liken unto the sea. To a huge number of people apart from another group of people. Definitely smaller in size. There was a large group of people the Lord God could not sit down and judge them. For this reason we had the sea the Nations who were not Judge by the Lord because he had a Covenant with the Israelites to Judge only them and He gave them the Law to Judge them according to it. In the New Covenant Jesus Christ is the Judge of all the people of the world. This is why we have no more sea. The place they were kept or were destined to go there is no more. Death and Hades have surrender every one to Jesus Christ for their Judgement. They lost their authority to take the people of the Nations by default. No more sea. When You know that Jesus Christ is the Judge of everyone in the world and that the dead of the world have been Judge. Death and Hades have surrender the Keys to Jesus. They also cannot enter that place anymore Their new place is in the lake of fire.

In the New we do not have the multitude of the Gentiles. We don't have sea. There are no Gentiles in the New Covenant. Only the man who is ready to believe upon the hearing of the Gospel. Former Jews and former Gentiles.

We are born and die in the New Earth and in the New Heavenandin the New underworld . God has reconcile the world unto himself. Jesus has died. All authority every where in the Heaven above and in the Earth and in all things under the earth has been given to him. He is the Lord of Lords. Unless you are of those who do not believe in Jesus Christ that he is the Messiah.

For me they have. I am well grounded in the Gospel just like day and night that there is nothing they can do to make me renounce the faith of Jesus Christ. For some others it will happen when they die as believers. Nothing they can do to anyone who dies a believer in Jesus Christ. This is no truth. It's far away from the truth as the day from the night. Think about what you are saying again. In Heaven we will be proclaiming his majesty. Not just us but also the Angels. Just our presence there it proclaims his GLORY. You mix it up. He Crushed our bodies, the sell of where we used to live with his iron rod. There is no used to eat. Just like the clay from the earth to the earth. In Heaven He will give us our Heavenly bodies. We all must appear before him as we are after we die and after we are escorted to Heaven then we will been given the Heavenly body. It cannot be to cloth us with the Heavenly body before we are there. Ever changed configurations. He can come as a thief but He does not have. We are ready for him. He is welcome to come anytime. Our hearts are open. We are not closing the door of our hearts to him.. He can come as simple and asking for a glass of water. We will open the door of our heart to him.

No, according to my mother we are in the New Covenant. We are in the New Heaven and the New Earth. Death and Hades have surrender to Jesus Christ the Keys of their Domaine. What Authority they had before is given to Jesus Christ. My mother has enter Heaven about ten years ago. She is with Jesus Christ. Heaven has changed. Jesus Christ is the Judge of all the people of the world. Death and Hades are defeated they surrender all the people in them to Jesus Christ to be Judged by him. Definitely there is no see in Heaven. No unbelievers in Heaven. No one in Heaven is waiting to be preached the Gospel. Everyone there has heard the Gospel while yet alive and believed. No undecideds in Heaven. Jesus Christ is welcoming people in his name. Everyone in his Life. Everyone is under his Grace because they have believed in him. He died for them so they can be with Him for ever.

We are in the New Covenant since the death of Jesus Christ on the Cross. We are living in the New Earth since 2000 years ago. The task of Paul it was to informed the people he met that we are in the New Covenant. Paul tried to remove their ignorance by informing them that we are in the New Covenant. That God had reconcile the world unto himself in Jesus Christ. Paul preached that the New has come and to thing and live like we are in the New Earth and New Heaven and the New underworld. Everything has changed. Everything has become New. Do you want to look on Earth? Is the order the same as before? Do we still have Jews and Gentiles, is Abraham still waiting for the Messiah of God. Is the Heaven still close to Mankind.

It says that "He will Judge amongs the Nations". When the prophet said that the Lord did not Judge amongs the Nations. He was the Lord of the Jews and he was judging the Nation of Israel. He was the Lord and God of the Jews only. It is not about their time in the Sinai Covenant. In the Sinai Covenant He was the Lord and God of the Jews only. And He sat in Judgement of the Jews only, his people only year after year according to the terms of their Covenant with him. According to their religious Calendar and their obedience to the Law and the book of Leviticus regarding clean and unclean. The prophet Isaiah in Isaiah 2:4 and Micah in 4:2 described those events taken place in the New Covenant. When they spoke those words every make born in the Nation of Israel and the sourounding nations was train in the arts of War from very young age. They were all soldiers. Are we not living in the time of Micah 4:3. In the time the prophetic was written there were wars continuely. The men were born to be soldiers all of them. They were trained from very young to fight for their existence. But we are not in their position for quite some time. As we grow up we are given books and we learn trades. We given the tools to make a living and we live our lives in peace without a war. We do not know how to fight a war. And Jesus Christ is the judge of All. This you cannot deny? 4:3 He will judge between many peoples and will settle disputes for strong nations far and wide. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore.

I am not agreeable because you did not stay in the same context. The context is the follow. They came over to war with the Christ of God and his people and along the way at some time there after they turned their weapons into tools to work the fields . And they joined the people who came to fight in their work in the field of Jesus Christ. Who are you Lord. It's me, It's In other words they were introduced to the Gospel from the people they came to fight against and at some time later they became their co-workers in the field of the Gospel.

Jesus specifically said that where I am you will be speaking to his disciples who were representing the believers in Him, the believers in Jesus Christ.

It happened and is happening in the New Covenant. Verse 34 in this context Jesus is speaking to the Jews and to his disciples and everyone who was there. To the Jews before they died. But it was also the same for the rest of the world. In this life people can multiply. Women give birth. And we know that seizes after we die because people are in the spiritual form. Non in earthly material. In verse 35 Jesus is not referring to the life after death in General but to the Life after death for a very specific group of people. Jesus is referring to the children of the resurrection. To the children who are in Jesus Christ, about the people who will believe in him when the Gospel will be preached to them after the Cross and the resurrection of Jesus Christ. It's a future reference when the believers in him will die and wellecome by him and when the are in their Heavenly body. Which has no earthly material at all. Jesus is telling that at that time they will be like Angels who do not multiply and they also will not multiply. That there is not multiplication, and many other things as they were in the Earthy life before they die. Jesus specifically points to his believers after their death who are in their New Heavenly bodies. Because some of them were teaching some things to the contrary. No multiplication for the people of God in their Heavenly bodies. The point is that they are not earthly anymore and are not connected to the earthly matters as they were before they died. Their abode is Heavenly as they are Heavenly beings. They are like the Angels. Can the Angels come and leave on the earth like earthly beings when are not earthly? Do they need a home to protect them from the Earthy elements? From cold and heat and wind and hunger and to they need to have a wardrobe and furniture to secure their belongings to they carry suitcases with them or travel by train? And who is going to be the contactor and the rest of the staff. And traveling from where and to where? Can people in their Heavenly bodies live on earth? Can we have a mixed population living together on earth?

In this post we have the distorted version of the Poter. If he is a Poter only to have the right to destroy the vessels then he is portrait as an intruder who has break into his shop perhaps and destroys his workmanship his creations. But this is not what the message intents to comunicate. He is the Poter he has created those vessels in the past and the time came that he created some vessels that they were unparalleled in workmanship and he said that's how I want all the vessels in my home to be. And he took the task to himself and got rid of the vessels that do not fit to the New standars. It is not that he destroy all the vessels his house but the vessels that were in his house that they were inferior to the new model. This is what happened at the time Jesus ushers in the New Covenant and God established the Forgiveness of sins in Jesus Christ for everyone in the world. When anyone believes in him he is or becomes the New Creation of the Poter. The Old creations at the time of Judgement who claimed that we are your children according the older way but they had refused to put on the new way and be the vessels of the New Creation the Poter does not want them in his house. Simply they do not belong there. The older vessels of his creations should accept and adapt to the new standards of the Poter. Simply said to believe in Jesus Christ and become the New Creation of the Poter. Or in an other application some vessels claimed that they belong in the Potter's house but they are not the New Creation of the Potter to be of the New Creation with His Spirit and His Life in them and when the Poter finds them he destroys them. Only the vessels found with his Life in them remains in his house. Or the Poter said that the vessels that belong in my house and are my workmanship this is about Jesus Christ who let us know that we can't be with Him in his Heavenly house in the house we already belong with our earthly house or earthly body and at the time of our physical death the Potter destroys our physical bodies because he want us without our physical bodies and the Potter does not need at all our earthly bodies to give to us the Heavenly body or to cloth us with our Heavenly bodies. Don't offend and mention to him the earthly body.

This is some how puzzling as it is without the specific context as it is posted. Is not easy to connect to it without the ever growing knowledge of Paul. If I may give it a shot. When the Gospel is preached the Holy Spirit is encouraged the listener to believe. That Jesus Christ died for the forgiveness of his sins. While yet the message is spoken. Some may believe that very moment as the service is ongoing and at anytime before the service finishes they had to leave. This is it. They came into the service as unbelievers and they left as believers. Or in other examples as soon as they believe an earthquake happens and the building collapse and die. And we can say that He came as an unbeliever and die a believer because he believed during the deliverance of the message. We start with faith then let's continue to live remembering that we started with believing that Jesus Christ died for the forgiveness of sins and later on to hold fast to that and not to add a string of other requirements which are for the believers and their growing in their faith of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. As believers they should do this or that. To grow strong and be inpower in their faith and have a strong foundation.

To your last sentence we cannot say no.

Hi @farouk Thank you for pointing this out. It is relevant to us who are in Jesus Christ to know that the Lord of Lords is looking after us in his love for us HE CARE FOR US, HIS CHILDREN. He can crush our "disobedience" using a general word and I should include our "ignorance", because we do and say many things in our ignorance. Which indicates involvement in our lives, that we are not alone and that we are loved. More or less HE still accepts us as his children even if we are spiritually misformed. Not even making any steps towards perfection. He wants to be the one to help us take teach our first steps. That shows that His presence is around us.

The Old Covenant was ɓetween God and the Israelites and Circumcision was mandatory. And to keep the Sabbath was mandatory. But not in the New Covenant.

Paul spoke of the Gospel of Jesus Christ that invites anyone to Believe in Jesus Christ that Jesus Christ died for the forgiveness of their sins. The Covenant of Cirumcision is done on boys at eight days old. Just think about that.

The point is made that the Word of God will triumph over those who will come against him and he called on the fowls to come and have a great feast on the flesh of those who will die on that day. The point is that his enemies when they die the do not need their bodies anymore. And this is what He has ordained. And He gave their flesh to be food for the fowls. Their flesh after they die is good for food for the fowls or for the worms. Whether buried or not their flesh is ordained to be food for the worms or the fowls. Do not expect anything else. The flesh is finished.

Jesus ascending on his own and alone was witness by the disciples and the disciples had the testimony of Jesus Christ that He will ascent into His Father in Heaven who is being waiting for Him And the Angels gave the Testimony that Jesus Christ went up in Heaven and He will come back on his own. As Jesus had said earlier before the Cross: don't asked yourself who is going to take me up and who is going to bring me down. In the 1st Chapter of Revelation it happened just that. Jesus Christ came back just as it was by the Angels. Jesus was taken up without a big noise and trumpets and shouting from Angels and lightning and Thunder. And in the same way Jesus Christ came back to John in the Island of Patmos and appeared only to him. And at that time we have the witness that there has been a big shaking in the underworld. And in the Heavens. What was revealed at that time by what John saw and by what Jesus told him that the Old Heaven is gone and we have a New Heaven. Before Jesus Christ Ascension we look into Heaven and we see it as it was. After the Ascension we see a deferent Picture Jesus Christ is in his Glory. God has Honored and has Glorified Jesus And has made him Lord of All and the King over all Kings. We see that the way to Heaven had been opened for mankind in Jesus Christ death in his name. Definitely this is a picture of a New Heaven. Haven is open to mankind in Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ is Glorified and he is not in his humble form anymore but in his Glorious appearance as he appear to John. Are you going to build a house and a luxurious Palace to lured him to make his abode there? You want to detained him in a certain place and certain structure. Do you want to manage his affairs? Do you want him to be in a special place where you can go and visit him or you want Jesus Christ to come to you wherever you are in the Holy Spirit.

But how do you know the false teachers? The disciples were the eye witness and they teach the people that Jesus Christ indeed died and was raised from the dead and they Wachtel him ascended into Heaven. It was like that as they were looking at Him, Jesus Christ began to ascend up as he was upright and they looked at Him. The sign of Jesus Christ in the Sky. And as He was up High in the Sky a cloud cover him about and that's it. And the two Angels said: in this manner Jesus Christ went up into Heaven and in the same way manner Jesus Christ will come in the same way as you show him go into Heaven. Acts 1:11. ESV and said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same wiay as you saw him go into heaven." The Angels told the disciples what happened to Jesus after the cloud cover Jesus and they could not see him anymore. At this time it was the Angels testimony that Jesus went in Heaven. ( like if you hear someone say Jesus is here or there do not believe it because the Angels gave the testimony that Jesus was taken up in Heaven. The disciples were told from Jesus that it will happen but they only witness him ascending till the cloud cover him up. They Angels were not with the disciples all along as they were watching Jesus ascending and cover with the cloud. But they appear to them after the cloud cover Jesus to tell them what happened. That what Jesus had told them earlier had been fulfilled.