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Yes its true Jesus healed them all every time. Lets keep that in mind as we are growing into Him. What does that mean growing into Him. For what to good boys and girls? I have asked many times now for some one to start a thread on Pauls sickness. Would you like to start one please? Was there ever a time when Jesus had to pray more than once? Yes there was. Thank God that gives us hope to continue if it doesnt work first time every time. Yes he was nigh unto death and was healed/ And was healed. how is this a good example? Why did you wuote"he was nigh unto death " But you never quoted " and was only healed after much prayer, " I looked for He recived much prayer. Where did you read that. Can you quote it please? He was healed. Matbe its how we read things. I read trusting God and Get blessed for it. Works for me. I will quote again what you never quoted just for the sake of having the Full picture. 1 Tim 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities. Tim often had stomach problems. He was leaving Paul. He would have been well when he left Paul. He often had problems with the stomach. SO the water will not help you Timothy. Take a little wine to avoid the water that was bad. If you have a flu and I pray for you to be healed. You will get healed. But If you are not walking in devine health. You will get the flu again. So how could Paul have done what you think He should have done? When we get saved do we fully look like Christ straight away. In heaven yes. ON the earth no. When Tim was taught by Paul about what He can do in Christ, did Tinm walk in it right away? No. Scripture says we are in like manner those who are just converted to Christ are, "as new-born babes," to "grow up" to the stature of men and women in Christ Jesus. 1 Peter 2:2; ... So Tim was not walking in the fullness of Christ. Tim could not just come to paul they were miles apart. P{aul sent Tim. Do you have a scripture for what you said here? If you dont you are adding to scripture. Do you want all the pagues that are mentioned in the scriptures? Right now you are on the edge of reciving them. Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Please dont do that. Its not just for your sake, its for all the others who will accept what YOU think is right. And if its temperal. How come I am laying hands on the sick and seeing them healed today? What God will do for one. He will do for all. Again you are talking with no scripture. Please provide scripture to back this up. Thank you. And I have many scriptures for this one again. You are not ment to be sick. If your sick. You would say nothing surerer than you will be sick. God does not talk like that. James 5:14-16 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. 16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. We suffer because we are all arguing against God heals today. and You wonder why were sick. You might believ that I dont. Iseen people healed at MY word and Going. IN HIS NAME Why is it that I was the one how said that healing has a bad rep world wide in the churches. But you all bring up people who I never mentioned. Why is that you can call Gods word and me a liar and twisted, But I am the one who gets reprimanded in public? Why cant you see I am saying Gods even better than we thought. BUt you are all saying nah Hes not tha good. It going to be a sorry sight when He says Davy come on up here son. Hes al;ready said it to me through another guy. But what asorry sight when Hes whipping away your tears over wasted years. You will be like Lord I never knew. Ehhh Davy told ya. Yes Lord but, shhhhh now its ok I actully do love you more than You ever understood. I love you says God. I love you. So to summerize. Yopu are very short in scriptures here. Please provide any that you have, just so people can see a balanced view.

You can offend God and get away with it. You can offend Jesus and get away with it. You will not get away from offending the Holy Ghost. God cant get offended at you if you are in Christ. Jesus cant get offended at you if you are in Him. Is the Holy Ghost different from them No. So why is there a different attitude . and how is it possible to offend only the Holy Ghost. Thought they were one and the same? They are. So whats the difference? If you have tasted of the Holy Ghost and seen His works. Healing through you or anything else through you and you know for a fact its Him. Then you turn your back and deny Him. Thats is how you offend the Holy Ghost.

Yes it was a link to a thread Angles started. danger of Dominian theoligy I think it was called.

Is ther any admin can explain this please.

What is your point? Try and keep it short. Looks like your against what I am saying if it is show me scripture and just get to it. If your genuinly interested. Go listen to Dan Mohler Todd White. Curry Blake. John G lake. David Hogan.

I will start with this. Your telling me I have no scriptures and you dont have a single one in your post and think that justifys what you dont believe about scripture. Thats quite funny. So you want scriptures because YOU dont believe its Gods will to heal all today and forever. I have many many scriptures. HOW many do you have that says its not Gods will ? So I am going to argue for God being great and your going to say not so great. I just want you to realise this is that you and many many other Christians do. 1. Matt 4:23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people. Keep in mind it says all Galilee and healed them all. sounds consistant to me. 2, Luke 6:19 And the whole multitude sought to touch him: for there went virtue out of him, and healed them all. All again. 3. Matt 12:15 But when Jesus knew it, he withdrew himself from thence: and great multitudes followed him, and he healed them all; starting to paint a picture here for me any ways. If you need more just ask. Lords prayer. They kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Are there any limbless in heaven? No any sick? Nope. And dead? nope. Any thing wrong in heaven Nope. So it seems heaven is the way God wants it? I say yes what do you say? Mind this is Jesus tellling them how to pray. So were being told by Jesus (love you man. Sorry it just comes out woohoo.) To pray for Gods will to be done on earth. Isnt that right . Jesus said it not me. You really think God call her condiction a life robbed of heath perfection. What a twisted way of thinking of God. God does not need her to be like that for His glory thats a lie from hell. You dont not have a scripture to back that up. You think God is paraplygic. We are created in His image. This is a total dishonour to Gods Glory. There is No glory for God in sickness. satan came to steal kill and destroy. Jesus came to bring life life more abundant. You know this is scripture dont ya? God brings life and satan brings death. What part of life is a paraplygic? Thats satan. Now dont run off thinking God can use any one in any condiction if the heart is open. Joni has done fantastic and brought Glory to God. What do you think She could have done if she was in a whole body. You think she would have failed? I dont. Sickness is from satan. God is life. THats also bible. Did He? I never read that. Tell you what since you know what He done. Can you please fill in for us all the other things that He done that the books of the world could not contain them. What was He doing then and where was He doing it? Maybe He ws not there veery week. But once again you are saying something with no scripture, Thats strange coming from someone who wants scripture. Bless God the man Got healed and guess who healed him God. wonder if it was Gods will to heal the man. Wonder if your looking for excuses to tie in with your experiences. Yes its gods will to heal all. It becomes hard for God with so many not believeing its Gods will. Who will go. Obviously not you and the very majority in here and in most churches and were wondering why we dont see healing? Bless Nick amazing man of God. Did you lay hands on him. Did anyone lay hands on him. Did he call the elders are there any elders who actully believe in the prayer of faith. I asked this already and the woman said I wont tell the sucsees rate of my elders . Yes cause they dont have a single healing to there name. The bible says IF you are sick call the elders and they will pray the prayer of faith. Why is it IF? Because you are NOT ment to be sick if you are living in faith. Its a lifestyle not a wishing well. Well lets see what you have to back up what you dont believe with scripture. Thats gonna be difficult. I seen this way to many times. Just step back look at what I say. Dont look at life experiances. look at God. Is He really for you. Does hHe really have no favourets like He says, bible. I will do for one what I do for another. I will make the sun to shine on the wicked and the good. Rain to yada yada. I have naby nore scriptures if you need them. You are assuming the role of teacher here ok. So are you ready to stand before God and tell him that you taught with the full knowledge of the subject of healing like you are doing here. You know You will have to do that one day dont you? So what ever they do is nothing to do with you other than to stand on there shoulders and continue in the vain they set. are you doing that? Your holding them up as examples . So what are you doing with four limbs. No one said Gid is one to condem and lay guilt. I already said that. There is no condemanation in Christ none. SO lets see if you think I am still decived. Maybe you can tell me how Gods picks who gets healed and who deos not. and with scripture please. Twell me about this God who says yes to some and no to others. You said you believe in Healing and laying on of hands. You will not lay hands on unless God calls you to. Where is the scripture for that. And the other things you claim are Gods will. and the way He does things.

No does it look like that to you. why you desperate to find a scripture calling you trash? after all the things God said about you you want to go back like a pig. Why ? GOD never called a saint a sinner ever its not there stop will ya.

Old covanant deal We are under the new covanant deal we are to keep every day holy. we are 24/7 holy. Hows that working out for ya?

So like I said I think going on the past two posts it very clear God never called a saint a sinner thank you both. For confirming what I said . We are so privilaged. God is so good. But there are just so many who think we are just lowly sinners and the take the old covanant bible vers. Luke 18 :13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. We need to stop thinking old covanant mind sets like this scripture.

Not a christian song disney kids film but there no religion in my church. So it was cool.

Amen now we are on track thank you. Thank God for some one else who knows ther created value. Bess you man. Your a real encouragement to me

If God sent His best. wonder if its because your worth it. Why do we always say its all Him and were all worthless. We kniow what Hes worth. How many of you gave more money that the car or house or beer was worth? Why cant you just except that its because you were worth saving, and being restored to Your created value. Adam walked in the cool of the day with God and you can do that now to. I am not a worthless sinner. Niether is anyone else. God is not zuess. God thinks its a great deal getting us back for what Christ suffered And God made sure the penlty was paid in full. We all say we believe what the bible says and yet struggle with our value to God. Heres is a typical church statement. If you were the only one on earth Jesus would still have come for you. Is that because you are the only worthless person on the earth. Really. lol so silly talking like this and beliveing the oppsite. And something else. To say you are unworthy is to make God a fool. Like He purchased something of no value really Goes against all God said we are. Wht most believe here is crazy

Nice to come into a thread that so far we are all agreed on.

Well whats happened is. I was involved in a discussion That Angles4u started and now it has dissapeard. I have the email of the days chat and things. So when I could'nt find the thread I checked my email list of the days events and the link runs in to the error code. I am guessing someone deleted the thread?

Can someone tell me what is this error code I am getting?

Bless them that curse you. I did a talk one time and I called it Let it go I played the song from Frozen. This had an effect on people for wuite a long time. They were all checking each other when ever they had a compliant. by saying Let it go. Thank you. So in short yes its not about me ists about everyone else. Die to self and be found hidden in Christ. Its no longer I who lives but Christ who lives in me.

This was mentioned already about Joni. So how does our experiances change Gods word? It dosent. To be clear, I do believe in bodily healing from our Lord as He desires. You dont have a scripture to back this thought up. Its always God will to heal all. Just like Jesus did whist he was here on earth. No God never used dictors we do. Its not Gods way. Luke was a doctor. Does it say he took his bag NO. Did it sat he ever went back to useing his bag no never. Fine we are blessed men studied the body ok. Thats not Gods way that mans way. Its not in the bible. There are many bad teachers users and abusers who made money from gealing lies. So healing has a bad rep even though it comes from God. You never said in your case if you got healed or not? Thanks for your post. Not sure what all the repent part was about or who it is for?

Well I ment creative was right in part. there are many doing nothing and really quite dead they will tell you. And it now looks like I am not saying Yowin is not right. I am not saying that.

Can you quote one New covanant scripture wher God calls Christian believers sinners?

Which is?

Please quote the questions I dodged and also quote the insults I hurled at you or anyone else thanks. I could care less about me. I protect Gods word and back it up with truth I aint hurt nothing like it. I will say to you also pray for me that I will get Gods wisdom thanks.

Funny how you keep telling me what I am but never quoted me ever. Dont you think you should at least quote what I say as oppese to what you think I am. Thank you. Then everyone will see me for what I am . Or its just your thoughts.

And what does james say shhhsh. So you want to show me up for lack of knowledge call me into the soapbox any time. Then you will be able to expose me as a fake. Any time thanks. So by grace you have been saved healed deliverd and set free ecompased. Yes thats all involved in the word saved. Look it up.

You need to loo up the word saved in the greek. Once you know what the word saved is in the greek then you will clearly understand what saved is. and that it encompases healed. Its really simple. SO instead of telling me what I know and you clearly dont please go look it up. Its comes under sozo. Your reading to much into the english version of sved and a life time of hearing what you believe. Thats the half gospel you got there. May be its your lack of recognising scripture when i write it thats the problem. I have any amout of scripture to back up what I believe. I also have plety experiances to back up what I believe. You cant take away from what I believe, you can add to it. You cant take away. Impossible. Its all very well you saying I twist scripture back that up with what I twisted and show me how its wrong. All your doing here is gum bumping. You gave three scriptrures that are amazing and none of them say healing has got nothing to do with salvation. The first one tells you if you know the greek that it is about healing. second and third great as they are dont back up your cliams nothing like it. Your grasping at straws. You got hurt in the chat room called for me to get banned. And now you come in here telling me again I am wrong. If you wanted me banned why are you now following me to talk to me? You said you wanted me out.. Isaiah. Does not say spiritual healing and yoet you twist words now afater accusing me of twisting word. It does not say spiritual healing YOU said that. So your trying to mislead people. You aint kidding me. I dont care what most people see out there. I care about what the bible says nothing else will move me. You know nothing about healking and are in no position to tell me who to listen to and who not. Thanks for you concern. If your really worried about me. Pray for me that I will receive more wisdom in these matters That would be superb thanks. So quote me and cortrect me, or dont waste our time thanks.

So you thinking I am not walking in faith because I see someone talk wrong about scripture? one little sweeping statement . I know full well faith is the key to all things and the only way to please God. So why you telling me what to do when you dont even know what I am talking about? That makes no sense. people just like to throw in a paddle even on dry land.