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okay but the strength of sin is not the law, like you believe it to be, ? for the law is to show the sin, not to be the sin, we sin when we do not follow the law of God and so we miss the mark and then Sin but if we follow the law , then we do not sin, and there is no power in the sin, for we are following the law, that keeps us from sinning, but the law of sin, was not able to be conquered until the Sin was destroyed by the power of the Cross, and so this is where it is explaining it self, thank you

that was great thank you for that information, blessings to you

Okay, saved 34, first I want to thank you for the response, and for the thought that I am passionate in my view, yes, and thank you , so lets break this down, and get something here figured out shall we ? first off ,the law ,..gives no strength in any way to sin, ? it is the law that shows us what Sin is ? with out the law you would not know what Sin was ,period, Next the power of sin is the law is definitely wrong, !! is that a NIV bible ?you are reading, ? that is the first problem, toss that bible in the rubbish, it will lead you wrong, next looking in the mirror that's a good one, but that is not happening hear, , the law of moses did not bring condemnation, and the new covenant did not bring righteousness, you really need another bible , my friend it is not making any sense just as it is , Jesus tells us , that no one removed anything that God has given to the leaders and the prophets, and so it stands , only what the law or the word of god could not do , from moses time, it is given from Jesus through grace of the sacrifice on the cross, and nailed, complete, and this is what the bible tells us, so please , get rid of your NIV first , and then get a good bible to see scripture not butchered up like you have thank you shalom

that's cool . I really like my large print king james , but I will try the ESV, and give it a try thank you shalom

thank you Jayne, this is a great help in explaining what I am trying to say , and that we are not counting Jesus finished work , void ? not at all ?, but it is finished as He stated, and we have not removed the law of moses , for Jesus tells us about this, and so , when m,any want to say we put our selves back in the yoke of Bondage this is not what we are doing , for it is following the word of God which is the law that we follow plain and simple, and I am not reaching to reinvent the wheel or bring in anything new, for it is , and always have been the same, but it has always been taught in the wrong way , and not understood, or comprehended as such, blessings to you , great post, shalom

Actually , scripture tells us that we have died to the law? of SIN and DEATH, !! not the whole law,for the wages of Sin is death yes, and for our Sins have been forgiven, ? but the law is not done away , at all, and never was? please look at the scriptures you ? have posted and understand what it is telling you ,Oh death where is your sting ? and sins are forgiven as far as the east is to the west, it is remembered no more, for by the word is the law, and the law is the word, of God, and so , we have not removed God have we ? what is truth ? truth is Gods word, and the word is the law, understand , the way of the law, , the way of the commandments , the way of Yahweh ? the way of the Torah, do you know who is ? THE WAY ? it is Jesus , yahushua !! fulfills and completes the laws and the prophets ,!! Your scripture we will use, note Galatians 2:19;20 for the law I died ,that I might live, the power of Death ? and now crucified and united in Christ the life I live in the body I live by faith in the Son of God, who gave himself who loved me, ? and died to the power and the Law of Sin and death , that we died to the dead and are made alive in Him, and that our Sin, has no power, but Christ in us, the Holy spirit , cleanses us , of the sins , and we are forgiven, and not caught in the wages of Sin, it is put to rest, period, this is all that it does for that part of the law, and the sacrifices and the priest hood, all , and every word is God breath , and is valid, and I have just showed you , in the context , and in the right spirit of God, so that that spirit in us , will raise us up in that day , when we are called, for the power of Sin and death has no power over us , that are in Christ Jesus , and this is great and glorious news................. blessings to you ,

we have the god of the heavens of Isaac ,Jacob and Abraham, and we have the holy spirit , and then we have Jesus or yeshua the son of the living God, and God himself,? we learn that the truth is the word , and we ask what is the word ? it is God !! in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God, and so to follow God , is to follow the word, for He is the word , and God, so if we follow God in our bibles , we then need to follow all of Gods word , and all that God has said, and it is for us to grow and learn and to be instructed of , to live in today as they did yesterday , and to be of God and to foillow God , is to follow the words of God, and all of the words of God, is valid , and for us today , we cannot follow or say we follow God if we pick and choose what we will believe and what we wont, for God is God, and he cannot and would not , and did not take anything away , that is our law today , and by the law of God. Jesus yeshua , came to us in the flesh to full fill the law and the prophets ? he said He did not come to abolish or put away the law, for to fulfill is and was completed on the CROSS, nailed there for all to see, and for we to believe and come to the feet of Jesus yeshua, and so , the cross, is the completion and the finished work done to carry out the law and the prophets, and to bring in the gift of grace, and salvation to all that follows and are abiding in Him, for we are now crucified in Christ, and yet, He lives, so now , we see that this was a life, given a divine God, of holiness and mans flesh to be the sacrifice, to save you and me and to bring us into the fellowship of God, and so , with that said, we cannot dismiss and word or law, if God has spoken it, and for nothing is put away , other then what could not be done , by the law, that moses first held, for before moses , He was, and He is the authority , and no man , of tradition, or mans belief can remove anything that God has given , in word and in deed, and in spirit , so be renewed in the spirit of our minds , put off the old man , and put on the new man , so do not be deceived to believe that any thing is voided out , and not valid, the scriptures and the word tells us, that nothing is put away , there is no condemnation to those that are in Christ Jesus , but we must understand the following of the word, and we will know, guided by the holy spirit , our eyes are open, to the love and compassion, and to see the beauty of the CROSS,,,, blessings to you all, and shalom

I have noticed that many Christians today are saying they are Christian, and go to church , and through the motions, of what they believe in there minds that they should be doing, and yet most do not open their bibles, nor do they set time, alone, or quiet time, to study or pray, and depend on God to do all the work, and be there and to take care of there needs, and some, out side ideas that you can pray it , and get it attitude, but that goes with another topic, but those that want God to be doing for them and to meet there needs but yet, never understanding and coming to the foot of the cross, is like saying you are on a basket Ball team, and for practice, you are practicing your golf swing? I think the mind of Christians and or believers need to get their priorities in line, to see who they are worshiping , and why ? I.E. we cannot speak the language if we do not know the meaning, there is to many not understanding that the bible is one of the most important tools that we have and by the word of God , we learn the laws the commandments and the teachings, of what we need to be doing, we cannot continue to sit and listen it is time, to do , and to take the word of God in to the world and to be the tool in what ever you do , to shed the light of the word to others to many people are taking the talk and assuming whats in the bibles, and not reading it, and not applying it to there lives, and so I made this topic to address just that, for the day is coming , that we will and may not have a choice, and our time, has come, ? we need to be seeking God, now , and getting right with God, so we can be right with others, following the law of God and instruction, is following the word . thank you and blessings ....................

lol you funny brother ?

so let me ask you this Jayne, which bible do you use as your main bible, and why do you think yours is the best one? I use the kjv, but have others ? thank you for the info, much blessings to you thank you

thats interesting thanks, let me know when you have more info ? thank you brother

thanks brother that was really good, and with scripture to back it up, Hebrew is what many draw to , but i was thinking there be Aramaic involvement, prior to the bibles being translated, and then we see there is also a latin, translation, i don't even know how that was placed in there, but i am, trying to line up the dots, blessings and shalom

yes , the son of God, but he came to a place, of calling and to a people , and spoke, and so He had to be of a origin with in the people of a ethnic race and language to communicate and to be able to fit in, ? there is still things that kept Him in with the people , and not stand out, for He had to grow up , and be part of the culture and belief system of the time, ? thank you Otherone,

okay , i have to bring this to the table, and its not to say , if our Lord Jesus walked the earth , it be good to know what we can about Him other then His words and that He was the son of God, we all know that He was a Nazarene in a town of Galilee , and so it goes , that we have the bible, that has been translated from , greek , and Hebrew, and then to English, but was there a Aramaic start to this , as far as language,. and ethnic back ground, ? i am asking to try to clear this up for my research , and so i want to make it easy , and simple of what i am asking, and it may be a few questions, to get the right answers , if i do this right , okay and thank you in advance i am not wanting to be rude , or discriminating at all, but to find answers. okay , if Jesus came from Nazareth , what nationality was He ? was He a Arabic, culture at the time, jewish ? Hebrew , greek , or something else ? was Jesus of a dark skin, or white skin, or a brown skin complexion? was the bible first written in what language to what language to English, what language would have Jesus spoken while here walking side by side with man ? did He come for just one race, or all races to the jew and the gentile? just asking, and thank you , and blessings to you all this is for information ,,or where can we get information or resources to these questions, thank you peace,........

yes it is both , and so we all start with God, but who follows the narrow way , and who is the gate on the narrow way , but Jesus if we are not going thorough him then we are not on the straight and narrow, and we detour to the wide and the broad way, we must choose whom we will serve, God or the world , lose our lives for Him, or deny him, ? Jesus came with another scripture on this, and He said, that those that deny me , I will also deny Him, so we are warned., but will anyone heed to these warnings, ? thank you brother blessings and shalom

Ezra , my brother , i want to welcome you to respond to my topic the origin of the antichrist ,who could it be , it is posted, and i would like for you to respond, and comment on it, for you have a in sight of the antichrist, i have a topic for it, and give us your view and thought on it, i give you my word not to , be unkind or even reply to it, i am gathering all thoughts and peoples ideas for this is just a research for my notes and understanding thank you Ezra, peace

Well said Last Daze ,. and I see it that way also for the word is through out the bible and all over revelation, it is said that He that endures until the end shall be saved, for a few reasons one is that when the times get hard and your life is at stake, many will run, for they lost there belief and want to save them selves, and so enduring until the end is a physical endurance until the end mind body and soul, for the times will get hard and ugly and you will have to make a choice, second is that, if we do not endure, that means we were never born again believers, and we were fake, and called our selves believers when we were not and times got tough and then we bail out ? so you are correct, and this comes down to following the words and commandments and to endure until the end , this is the testing of your faith , and many do not think they get tested, as believers but we will, and we become a witness to the world also as the bond servants of the Lord, so many of us do not even realize that we do not all serve the same God, and for the one in the bible I serve, and many have in there minds what type of God they will serve, and its not biblical ? and does not follow what is said or commanded , but we must follow in the spirit and truth , and with all that we are , and we will know that God is God, and we are not ? blessings brother, spiritual will drive the physical to endure, faith ,and belief in the Son of God.....Amen

you have spoken well and I understand exactly what you said and your intensions behind it, you are in line with scripture , and you have done your home work, do not let the others try to rattle your cage,or try to corner you in terminology, and or ,correction there is none needed , they are just trying to pervert the truth , and twist your words, for you are following the spirit of God, and doing a great Job, blessings to you brother, and shalom.....

thank you Reinitin, that was a awesome statement, and one that I needed to hear especially this We really need to just stay in Christ and quit trying to be judges in the world. the world will take care of itself. for we are passionate of God and we are tryiong not to judge but to correct and instruct and reproof of scripture to be used in its order and to show the people that God is real and we stand for the gospels, and we also debate as we do , and push forward to let Gods word be heard , and in times it is needed for we are driven, and in other times, we need to be humble, letting the spirit guide, and show us the way ,your doing a good work for the kingdom, and planting good seed, thank you for sharing , for it is caring ? great food for thought , I really enjoy your view and your passion, Blessings to you , and grace.... shalom

I have to agree with you Reinitin, the churches are just so deceived , and commercialized that it is hard to see how the bible states one thing and the church another, and we think that the church is of God today ? but it is full of pagan worship and have taken the gospels to the deep of the water, and watered it down, and made it easy to listen , and takes all of the warnings out, it tells us that God is good, and you be fine, trust in God, but they do not give the hard teachings , that we are set out among wolves, and you will be hated , and the world hates you , they don't explain the COST ? of following jesus , just to follow Him,? and everything is just fine, this is where many turn from God for they have been thrown into a religion called a label and said fly , and hope you don't hit the ground,? how sad it really is ?

I had a topic about if we could be saved or if the old testament was enough to save us, and all we needed to know God, and follow Him, well I got some new evidence that Jesus is written all over the old testament, yes He is , I was watching a video that helped me see and locate this, for there is another topic that falls into this, that we should follow the new testament and that the old is not valid, the laws and instructions and commandments, and so we can solve both theories , and questions with this topic, so I am not promoting anything and my source came from a video made by 119 ministries, and it was titled ...the WAY and so when I watched it , it guided me to some very interesting facts, that I would love to share with you all ? in the old testament, it says as it talks about Yahweh, and His commandments, it will have about following the WAY and it shows up every where ? that was great to see that jesus is in the Old testament as He is God talking and speaking that if man keeps ..the way ,,of Yahweh ? so I thought it was great, and wanted to bring this to light , and so the old was never put away , for it is the same God and its the way ? and so it cannot be voided out, and so , this opens a new world to those that have put the old aside, and told me follow only the new, thank you and blessings

that was what I was trying to get at,. and , you see what I was trying to say , and where did jesus say this, ? I like when we can speak for God, its just amazing, to here ? how do I get to that level of scripture,. ? William ? for how does this happen ? to say the things like that and convince your self it is true ?

please you cannot preach what you are not following, ? you have been found out, and so , I have made my peace, and you have wanted to stir, so let it go , ? for you have been dis honest , and caught at it ? so just let it go , and move on, thank you .good bye ....

you accused me. and was dis honest, got another to follow you , and you want to question me, that be about right, ,really? forgot the accusation already ?

where or where are the accusers now ? any way, America will be judged, for we are not following God and we have ejected him out of our society , and so the evil runs freely, and it will do as it pleases , and we that are true believers ,will know that we are to endure ,!! until the end even if it is to lose our heads, for we do not blame God if we are not raptured, for we are told to be strong , and to stay in the faith , and you will have tribulation, and when it is Gods time to gather us , He will, oh how it will be a blessed day for those that are sealed in the spirit , amen . this is truth and it is fact , I don't think any can prove this theory wrong, reading the scriptures in context, for I see no other taking away but the gathering of the elect ? on the appointed time, by God, thank you