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In Holland we have a quite big church. They often had good guest speakers, so I went there and there was an American preacher. It was crazy. Not a word about God. His son hit on a rock and water came out of it. You could go back in time and lay your hand on your face cause he was gonna rebuke the wrinkles. I asked on christian forums if they knew him and a guy said: oh yeah. We don't want him, so he goes to your country. And all these people who were just evangelical christians but they are so gullible: Amen! Halleluja! I was in an evangelical church in the 90s in Holland. There was a church split because half the church said Toronto was okay and half the church said it was bad. I stay away from it all now.

Romans 11 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. Revelation 12/ Isaiah 66: Israel gets saved, country born in a day. Dragon then goes after her other offspring (rev 13). I think the uncountable multitude is the fullness of the gentiles that has come in and then he goes sit in the temple and the most stubborn finally see that having a human messiah is idolatry and the partial blindness is gone. Revelation 13: beast and the mark and christians get killed. No buying and selling. The 2nd beast and the image of the beast, thats the abomination in the temple. Ken Peters saw a disaster, radiosilence 2 weeks, the ac, tv everywhere with him, then a revival with whole places at once saved (uncountable multitude, fullness of gentiles come in), then he got mad and you needed a mark and christians got killed.

But why is that a problem? They are looking for a red heifer. It doesn't say that God will be pleased with this new temple and with the offerings or that it will save them. It's from the antichrist. Go build your temple and do your sacrifices. He arranges world peace. He wants them to believe he's the messiah. https://www.jewfaq.org/sacrifices_and_offerings When did Jews stop offering sacrifices, and why? For the most part, the practice of sacrifice stopped in the year 70 C.E., when the Roman army destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem, the place where sacrifices were offered. The practice was briefly resumed during the Jewish War of 132-135 C.E., but was ended permanently after that war was lost. There were also a few communities that continued sacrifices for a while after that time. We stopped offering sacrifices because we do not have a proper place to offer them. The Torah specifically commands us not to offer sacrifices wherever we feel like it; we are only permitted to offer sacrifices in the place that G-d has chosen for that purpose. Deut. 12:13-14. It would be a sin to offer sacrifices in any other place, akin to stealing candles and wine to observe Shabbat. The last place appointed by G-d for this purpose was the Temple in Jerusalem, but the Temple has been destroyed and a mosque has been erected in the place where it stood. Until G-d provides us with another place, we cannot offer sacrifices. There was at one time an opinion that in the absence of an assigned place, we could offer sacrifices anywhere. Based on that opinion, certain communities made their own sacrificial places. However, the majority ultimately ruled against this practice, and all sacrifice ceased. Orthodox Jews believe that when the messiah comes, a place will be provided for sacrificial purposes. Do Jews want to resume sacrifices? Orthodox Jews do. There are several places in our daily prayer services where we pray for the restoration of the Temple and the resumption of its rituals, including the rituals of sacrifice. The Orthodox Yom Kippur service includes a lengthy recollection of the Temple service, mourns its loss and longs for its restoration. Other movements of Judaism have removed these portions from the liturgy.

No wait. The male child is not the church. The woman is pregnant. It's the same as what Joseph saw in Genesis 37 with the sun, moon and stars. Isaiah 66 (John 666 they left, Isaiah 666 they come back) Before she was in labor, she gave birth; Before her pain came, She delivered a male child. 8 Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Shall the earth be made to give birth in one day? Or shall a nation be born at once? For as soon as Zion was in labor, She gave birth to her children. 9 Shall I bring to the time of birth, and not cause delivery?” says the Lord. “Shall I who cause delivery shut up the womb?” says your God.

I think the woman is Israel and the child is the church that gets raptured. Verse 17 the christians in the trib are also called her offspring: And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Revelation 12:17 NKJV https://bible.com/bible/114/rev.12.17.NKJV

They'll never fall for that. They don't want Jesus because you may not worship a man. Initially they will accept him. If another one comes in his own name him you will receive. But if they all accept the antichrist when he sits in the temple and take the mark of the beast there's no need for the dragon to make war against the woman and then all Israel doesn't get saved and Zechariah 12 doesn't happen and Jerusalem doesnt say blessed he who comes and Jesus won't come back.

Really. So annoying. Can't they just think about christians? Once my former colleague was really down, so I thought the dad from his girlfriend died, cause he had cancer. No he had planned euthanasia next week. My goodness. And the colleague was atheist. Can you tell him the Gospel? Is he a bit open to it? No not at all. He makes dark jokes. Fine. I fasted the whole week, prayed non stop. My ex thought I had gone nuts. I refused to eat. Total panic. I did get 2 dreams that he got saved, but it would be so relaxed if they could just cosily get saved in time. My dad was obedient. He got saved 2 years before he died. After ages of always playing the boss he now listened to my mom who said he had to get saved now.

I did see online, also from churches with a paid pastor, that they need a lot of volunteers and these men are like: I go work and take care of my wife, so she can do a volunteer job in church. It's just like why there are so many women taking care of the elderly. It pays lousy, but their men get the money in, so it doesn't matter. And there are not enough christians. If I look at my mom and her sisters, she's now 88, one got a christian husband. The rest married an atheist. Why doesnt the man go to church? Because he's an atheist and God has chosen the weak and he gets saved on his death bed. Eve, a woman, was the first to leave and women are the first to come back and the poor. Look at Africa. So many christians and so little christians in Europe.

Oh that's funny that he says that. Jesus is my Boyfriend. I listened to a man preach on youtube. Don't remember who it was. He talked about his husband, so I thought: Huh? Is he gay? LOL he was talking about Jesus. So weird.

The AI robot is the image of the first beast. And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived. He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, Revelation 13:11‭-‬16 NKJV https://bible.com/bible/114/rev.13.11-16.NKJV I always thought that when he stops the offering and sits in the temple the non christian Jews see they were mislead and that he can't be the messiah, so then they accept Jesus and he wants to kill them, but they get a safe place in the desert and al Israel gets saved.

I had never heard that. I don't think it's a thing here. In Holland a lot of evangelical churches are for older people, men and women and the kids paint an egg box or something. When I got saved we had an I think paid youth leader and it was fabulous, these youth services and we'd go somewhere for a week. I feel sorry for my kids that there is nothing here. We went to a church here. I thought: Finally they're old and can go to the normal service, but nope, they wanted to use them to watch the kids, so the parents could cosily sit in the service. Bye then. There is one awesome church at the other side of the country. I just watch it online. My mom watches it every day. He was a youth leader where we went as youth sometimes. Now he's 74 and still just as fun and loads of youth get saved all the time. A pity we're stuck here and I cant drive and have no car.

If people refuse to pay they shouldn't whine. If a restaurant is free it's a soup kitchen. Not some culinary stuff. I went to a church in my city. A woman whined that they started 5 mins too late. Guy said: Hold your horses. We all work for free here. The preachings, sometimes great when a good preacher preached, but he almost never preached. Next week sister so and so came babble about mothers day and the next week some guy talked about sex. I dont blame them. It has to be cheap or for free. Then this is what you get.

Feminization? We always had groups for men so they could talk without their wife talking all the time, but in Holland people don't pay and only huge churches can have a paid male pastor, so what you sometimes get is that the man works and the wife may preach for free.

He first cheated with her niece. She just forgets stuff. It's not that she understands nothing. She bikes to my mom alone. If I stay Facebook friends with him and like his stuff, it's like I say: go ahead and then Jesus comes back and he may miss it. My ex chatted with a woman so I thought God was fine with it that I had someone else when we broke up. It is not always sin. In my case it was. Do you think anyone warned? Nobody. Everybody in church slimed. Oh what a nice guy. You 2 should get married. God gave me a dream and threatened me with hell. I wish one person had been blunt and had warned me with hell. Would have saved me a lot of trouble.

It's more just venting. I'm not in their church. I'm not their pastor nor elder. The church they're in apparently does nothing. I do nothing either. Vent and pray he repents and that she gets healed. I do cut contact with him though. I'm not gonna slime as if I approve because then it's also my fault.

If I gossip I do it online where nobody knows the person and not with their name. There's a couple that used to be in our church. My mother is still friends with her and prays with her. She got dementia young. Her husband now has a new girlfriend and their teen daughter sides with her dad. They stay married. He is her caregiver. I was Facebook friends with em. He posted family pics and I gave em a like. Then I heard this from my mother, but my mother says to her: Youhave to forgive him and she does and she stays with him. But my brother and I got mad because why would you not protect her? All nice and dandy to forgive, but she can't live with a cheater who is not even sorry. But on the other hand we're not gonna take care of her either. Her mother is not gonna help her. So whatever. Just pray that she gets healed and can make her own decisions. Anyway I told no one else but I did unfriend him and hope he got the message.

Also departed saints. I think it means literal clouds and it may indeed also mean departed saints, because the ones that got raised then went with Him to heaven from Abraham's bosom. I have heard that explanation once in church that it was a cloud of witnesses. And He would come back the same way. Plus in Revelation 20 only the ones who got killed in the trib get raised, so the rest must have been raised and gotten a new body before that. Jesus doesn't leave Abraham and all the O.T. saints plus all the other saints, the apostles 1000 years in heaven when He lives on earth with His bride.

It doesn't say Revelation 20 is not true. I thought Revelation 20 was a great proof text for the pre trib rapture, because only the ones from the trib get raised then, so Abraham etc. who come with Jesus must already have been raised and the rapture is after the raising of the dead. Daniel 12:2-3 is a good one. “At that time Michael shall stand up, The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people; And there shall be a time of trouble, Such as never was since there was a nation, Even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, Every one who is found written in the book. Daniel 12:1 NKJV https://bible.com/bible/114/dan.12.1.NKJV Israel then gets protected, the woman gets a safe place and those who are already saved get raptured just after the first group gets raised from the dead before the great trib starts. And then the rest in Revelation 20.

Lol I have said that often to God. I'm glad He did not listen. Imagine if He really talked loud.

The EU wants to do the same thing. The EU wants to stop the illegal migration of Syrian refugees to Cyprus. EU Commission President von der Leyen and Cypriot President Christodoulidis will travel to Lebanon. The goal: a billion-dollar deal with the country. That's far worse. Rwanda is safer than Libanon.

https://truerichesradio.com/seven-biblical-commands-regarding-immigrants/

The flat in which I live gets more and more non Dutch people. I actually like it, cause they're friendly and grateful and not demanding and entitled. Our city has a muslim major. We have to be welcoming to the stranger, says the Bible. I was a stranger and you took Me in. It's the biggest sin if you're not hospitable to strangers. That was the sin from Sodom. Exactly like she describes, the end stage of an immoral society. Uncleanness, also in church, lukewarmness of christians, violence and then not being hospitable. What is now considered normal to say, like send them back, they take our houses, we had a politician 25 years ago who sent people back. Everyone thought she was evil. Unfortunately you also get war criminals and such, because they don't know who is who. These immigrants are the most open to the Gospel. They get help in churches. We had a christian party that was welcoming. Now we have the opposite. Rwanda, Africa with all these murderers, horrible place to send people to. That woman who gave the prophecy said that with WW3 a bomb would pollute the air above the rich countries and they'd try to leave to poor countries, but they would just be as hard on them. Since in Holland we were quite welcoming I thought oooh that will take a long time, but this sounds dangerous. The brother from Corrie ten Boom went to Germany in the 30s and he already warned that there was an evil going on. If they kick war criminals out, be my guest, but normal people.. that's not christian. I don't care if some Syrian family gets a nice house and I don't. My flat is fine. Just let them get saved.

That Dutch article said it. I thought it was weird too. I would say it depends very much on the church. I was in Toronto from the Toronto blessing and during the service people in the back gave whoever wanted one a very long prophecy. If 100 percent was not from God I'd believe it. The last time that I was in a service where whoever could go prophesy in a church was in the 90s. Then one woman had continually crazy stuff and rebuked people and they stopped it altogether.

Yes that's at the end when we see Him as He is and God is all in all. Then they are not needed anymore.