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StanJ

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  1. and of course you had nothing to do with that. you're quite good at casting blame while not accepting any.
  2. truth is definitely absolute and if you don't believe that we really have nothing to discuss. John 14:6 is absolute truth, as is Jesus. God's written word is absolute truth despite what you may or may not understand about it. John 8:32 is absolute. If people couldn't identify absolute truth then Jesus wouldn't have been the absolute truth but we can, which is why he is.
  3. I said I didn't want to take it backwards but to your point, what irritates me is people asking questions, getting answers, and then continuing to ask the same questions hoping for different answers. Basically Einstein said that's the definition of insanity.
  4. truth is absolute just as God is absolute... there's nothing philosophical about it. if one doesn't learn to recognize the different types of grammar in Scripture then one will never know what scriptures saying to them but it is always objective. People make it subjective.
  5. not my call, I didn't start it.
  6. I'm not going to take this thread backwards... if you have a question to ask then ask it. I'm pretty much finished with nebula.
  7. I reported the personal attacks and I suggest you go back to the beginning of this thread and read everything I posted.
  8. I should get the same results because just as God is immutable so is his word.
  9. you were answered way back and still push it so I have no reason to continue to reiterate the same answers over and over again if you're going to ignore them or deny them. you responded and I've answered you don't like the response or the answers that pretty much is your problem and I would suggest stop asking. the Bible says God IS love and that is not a feeling, that is God. If you want to know what that is like then read 1st Corinthians 13 as it gets relatively close but still won't Encompass everything God is.
  10. so it's okay for you to deduce from scripture what you've been taught about Omnipotence, Omnipresence and Omniscience, yet when somebody else does it with impassibility you are blind to it? How convenient! I really can't have a discussion with somebody about the Bible if they think that everything in the Bible is literal even though it's quite obvious that it isn't.
  11. I never said that, I said that some parts of it are allegorical, some parts are hyperbolic, and some parts or metaphorical, the rest is literal. The whole rationale behind hermeneutical exegesis is to figure out what is what based on context. Try reading Revelation and see just how far you get by determining that everything is literal there. Taking English and grammar in school is what taught me that and for some reason many Christians seem to want to forget what they were taught in school and just throw out that rulebook when it comes to reading the Bible. Maybe I haven't been very clear about this but I've been reading and studying the Bible for over 45 years now.
  12. that's right the Holy Spirit does use man to teach but that still doesn't mean that the people hearing it will accept the truth just as the Holy Spirit uses God's word to teach and yet many people read God's word and still don't see the truth in it. I'm not criticizing people that teach I'm criticizing those that learn only from men and never from God and his word. I was indeed a product of human teaching in my early years as a Christian but just as Hebrews indicates, I moved on to maturity and didn't need that same teaching over and over again. you know God is not impassible because of what the Bible says and yet you use what the Bible says about other emotions regarding God to say they're anthropomorphic and not literal. It must be nice to flip flop so easily between what you will and will not accept? We only have your word as to whether or not these men were or were not anointed. Very clear that you don't agree with anything I say so why don't we just agree to disagree and you stop wasting my time? oh nevermind I'll just put you on ignore and then I won't have to waste anymore of my time.
  13. Sorry but none of those verses used the Omni words so why do you insist I come up with the scripture that uses the impassible word? Are the eyes of the Lord in every place or is that hyperbole? With faith nothing for a Believer is impossible so does that make us omnipotent? is Psalm 139:13 Literal or hyperbole? Did God establish procreation in Genesis 1 or does he knit every person in their mother's womb?
  14. as far as I know I responded to everyone of nebula's posts but this is not a tag team, so if you want to ask questions or engage in discussion then do so on your own. I prefer to deal with one train of thought at a time rather than have people interject all over the place when they're not even following the context of each conversation. the links were only provided to show that the issue is relevant to today and has been for quite some time. If you want to discuss the issue then please go ahead and do so because unlike a lot of your peers on this thread you do appear to be more amenable to discussion rather than denial.
  15. like I said God's law of sowing and reaping is always in play.
  16. I've already shown scriptures that suggest the idea which you already rejected so I challenged you and you seem not to be able to be up to the challenge? Apparently you find it easy to deny what you don't agree with but hard to support what you do agree with. seems to me you are not totally committed to the idea of God's immutability but only those ideas that you have been taught are correct, not necessarily those you have thought through.
  17. I know what's open theists are and that wasn't my point. This is what happens when you interject. The point is that the hyperbole used in Genesis 6:6 is the same used whenever it is used to anthropomorphise God. This one verse alone does not convey the idea of omniscience, yet you have no problem seeing it's true intent because you've been taught that not because you discovered it. Even though you agree with the immutability of God you still refuse to recognize God's impassibility because you haven't discovered it by the Holy Spirit, you've only been taught by man. You agree with the three Omni attributes of God not because you discovered them but because you were taught them. Hate is just as anthropomorphic as regret is, except to those who refuse to see it. How exactly could God be grieved if he knew exactly what was going to happen? Again you anthropomorphize the word to try to make a point and do not even recognize what you're doing.
  18. you sure like labeling people, but in any event if this is an anthropomorphism then I guess hate is also an "expression of intensity of God's grief over man's sin", to quote your own words?
  19. The double standard that you use to allow yourself to label somebody liberal but don't accept the fact that you come from a conservative perspective and automatically think that conservative is right and liberal is wrong. It may surprise you to know that in Jesus' day he was considered a liberal. and I find it's much easier to read the Bible once one has had the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
  20. Sure, as soon as you back up with scriptures that God is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient.
  21. That's right, God doesn't contradict himself or his word, but God does contradict people and their beliefs even when they seem to be in line with what scriptures says. If you truly believe in the immutability of God then what do you do with scripture like Gen 6:6?
  22. This was no more personal than the previous post was towards me and as far as using scripture is concerned to denigrate somebody that means you think God's word denigrates people? The law of sowing and reaping is constant.
  23. well if you read the post before yours you'll see a few links that also talk about God's impassibility. Nothing can convince you unless you're open to the truth, and allow the Holy Spirit to show you.
  24. https://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2015/01/the-impassible-god-of-the-bible https://derekzrishmawy.com/2012/09/25/the-beauty-of-the-impassible-god-or-is-god-an-emotional-teenager/ http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28360880-confessing-the-impassible-god
  25. As opposed to your arguments of denial which are based on nothing more than ignorance and misunderstanding. Apparently many people are not yet ready to move on to maturity. Heb 6:1-3 You preach the immutability of God yet you obviously don't understand what it means or you would understand about impassibility. When many of us struggle to know the mystery of God you apparently have him all figured out.
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