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Thats just gross! Absolutely gross.. Tithing os as I understand it, not a law, but more like something God is happy about, but that He doesnt ask us to give more than we are able to, as He loves a happy giver. That means, to give freely without force or coercion. Thats how I understand it. Not that 'you have to give 10% or else'. How can that be a rule for those not even able to feed themselves?? I dont think thats how God means it. But to give what one are able to. Right? three weeks or three months thats too short to make up your mind about a church. Youve not seen the cracks yet if not already. There shouldnt be that kinda pressure thats wrong very unbiblical. If a church do that to me I now ponder to be frank.. thats what I wouldve believed about mega churches with alot of money that they would be like that. Not all, but many, especially those on tv. Seems to me that when they get to money they cant control the flesh any longer! And evil creeps in if not before! Hard to say who comes first, evil or greed. Think the bible say somewhere that few are those that can control themselves when getting rich.. I think especially this time and age. Theres really nothing wrong with being poor, really. Its just you struggle, but otherwise..? No.. Might be wise never to blurt out about money especially to churches. Got no problem to give to the right church, for the right church would even do more than that. But, .. thats such a shame that church went that way. Could it been infiltration? By evil ? Yeah...used to have healing services. .. I was like..almost swearing.. Like whoa! Immediately thinking of split in the church. Dont know why but thats what I did. The man I asked didnt like my questions about it I could sense. And hadnt expected that from me. Little me lol I look very innocent like easy ha.. Well what did I hear.. A short speech.. That was barely half an hour. Other than that music..songs.. And that was that.

Never heard of taco salad, how youre doing that? Sounds good! I like olive oil and just herbsfor a salad. Love nuts. Love spinach, especially the organic. You basically just have to eat salad..some meat or fish..small.. Some milk.. Or egg or so..some bread..some small grain healthy.. And fruit..there you go.. And plenty of water non tap water as much flouride that actually can prevent weightloss. Also being careful with what saturates. Like fruit juices. I was big on them.

Thats a shame to hear so much suffering brother! Ill pray for you! If it was right, the church members of the church you wished to go should take you there and home. There should be a bus something or coordination making sure everyone got to church. There might be online live services to attend? I hope you have that. Waw!! Im speechless!! Three weeks?!?! What in the world.. ! Did you leave that church after that? Did they not want you there when they got no money or signature? Thats gross!!! Thats not christian at all. I have no problem to give, but not under those conditions. Waw! I think there should be allowance for those that are poor or cant, hey even maybe those that have alot could stand in for them and there definitely should be a fellow savings for those lacking. When I was in the world I was led astray partly because of someone professing to be christian but had his foot in the world, using me and abusing me. Treating me like any other man in the world. I shouldve known better but I was in love and made myself believe he was a christian. He said he didnt 'feel that spark' and wanted to be friends, yet he couldnt leave me alone, giving me false hope, we fit so well together its a shame he wasnt serious about God. Christian family and it all, went to church sunday like nothings happened although he wanted me to drop all clothes. No, he didnt got it. But went way too far. Then, he had some worldly friends who bullied me saying I was fat. I was too ashamed and worrying to tell him. Anyway.. Yes the only way to go is 200% for The Lord, thats what I want,bthats why Im so keen to find the right church this time, as the one I went in my home country was very cold towards me, not much spirit there, but stiffness and coldness, pretty much ignored. I managed to find two friends in two churches. Says it all. So a spiritfilled church wont at least be a stumble block. And also its the only way to go with The Lord. And to be used by God.

Also, you say you dont have to shape your looks as youre too old for the market, brother thats a sad way of see yourself, youre worth more than that. Despite age, love doesnt come in looks. There are plenty of people that managed find love thats not a model. That say that its not in tbe outside. And who wants someone that looks on others that way? Even if I looked like a model, I wouldnt want someone that just valued me for my looks. Or even chosed me in tbe first place because of it. I know the world does it, but real christians are not that way. Sure, honor God with your body, do the best, but except from that..no. Many have said to me I look attractive when I was slimmer, and I know, but its just not what I go up in. I do love fashion, clothes etc like any woman mostly but out of that no. (By the way, would never dress 'for someone' or for attention) its sad, in my past, my childhood etc, Ive never measured up, I wouldnt measured up, even if Ive been a model Im sure of it! These days, Im tired of it, and had enough. The Lord finally got me to the point of self acceptance and self love. That was long!

I agree with you, jtc oh love has no age, remmember .. I have a long story of being bullied for being overweight, ever since I was three years old to adulthood by my own dyafunctional family(mother and brother mainly) and by my whole school class and school as a result, which followed me to everyone nearly I met outside school, as it was a village I grew up in with only sixthousand citizens at that point. But I know it happens to anyone, everywhere, the pattern is the same. This village was pretty nasty for it though. So even though I was normal weight, sometime just a bit chubby as children naturally can be, but nothing to worry about. I can see that clearly from pictures. I was early developed and big boned. It didnt sit well with them. As they were smaller in stature. Then I gained weight, not overly, just chubby, because of the treatment and the unhealthy food I was fed. Rarely a salad, if there was, it was tiny. And with that the you have to eat everything up attitude. Its first now, as my stomach got problems and i cant eat that much, its naturally shrimped and Im simply not hungry as I was and stop even before Im full. Now I eat normal sizes even under it. Not that I hoarded before, just a little larger portions thats all. But Ive eat alot of snacks, mainly loneliness and problems. Then added by I dont loose weight just like that. I need hard aerobic to ever loose some. If its under that, I only maintain. I dont loose. Its been like that on my mothers side of the family forever. My uncle, a christian man, hes dead now but he helped as good he could with how they treated me and because of him we went to vacations and the beach. RIP, Roland! See you in heaven ! But he was very large,weigh over 200 kg. he played football as young, then he couldnt stop eating. Dont know why, maybe it was the hardness and harshness from home. (My grandpa regret told me before he died, I think they both believed, him and my grandma, as it was more of the norm back then you go to church, and another uncle is still christian so I had wonderful contact with my grandpa before he died, so I hope to see them) but he was large and got diabetes from it and the foot qot infection, which spread, ending in wheelchair and from there.. Dead. But hes with The Lord!!! anyway, I dont eat much anymore, the only I have to break is eating crisps and so forth as comfort when its time off. Ive gone down on that incredibly from what I used to. I also need to eat more healthy. Im trying, it goes up and down, I cook alot, I have my illnesses and especially my cronic fatique is preventing me my whole life doing what I want to, im tired like an old woman. Thats not just ..you know, that started when I was abused,child abuse. I simply dont have as much energy as normal people. For every aerobic pass Ive ever done, I had to rest four days. A full days work and the rest forget Im done. And I mean done. Im bedridden all of a sudden weak of fatique. Then normal. Some days are worse than others. Its called CFS, cronic fatique. Then Ive developed diabetes type two recently. I have asthma from a bronchitial infeciton and i get infections and viral with my throat veryy easily. Cant take any draft. None. So, The lord and me have something to work on, and Im not obese just overweight, currently size 18 uk. 18/20 depending on what part of my body as Im pearshaped The lord is good Hes helped me finally accept myself. And love myself as I am. Its worked on for years. Ive met good friends though, that helped. I believe with the help of The Lord I can get even more normal sized and get rid of my illnesses. I intend to start eat more salads, i love salads, could live on them, and add chicken and stuff and go from there. Ive noticed that I loose easier if its organic. And more full. The usual dont have that kinda results. Its gonna be hard though with working full time and try exercise, I get a lot of exercise through work but its the stressful one. Im exhausted when I get home theres nothing in me, and Im overworked eight days a row, when I go to bed I just lay there and feel Im gonna die if I work more. So, my fatique and how they treat me..is gonna be tough.

You can do it sister its never too late. How about joining a slimming club or so? Or maybe have a friend follow you for walks?

And the more you do it, the more God will work with you and clear away any strongholds. But dont stop the work, its ongoing, especially in these days. If we have bad childhood, bad experiences where we are weak, enemy can come in there. He can oppress. So keep on cleaning lay it in front of God. Thats right, theres no need to be upset. Its programmed into you that you HAVE to react. No you dont. You can process your emotions in a healthy way, as you just did. You acknowledge them, look at them, deal with your feelings, decide how you want to react, maybe further processing and out. Most get stuck in reaction. Soon the process gets so smooth then youll see it was actually you that were stuck then, you can work with the rest Its especially useful,when it comes to judgment and forcing others to behave MY way or the highway.

Well I dont wanna say who is or isnt, all I can say is there has to be LIFE, prayer and healing meetings, where you TRY live after what He said, and where it shows, where you have deliverance for those needed, where people are convinced and come to God, no legalism but life, love and freedom in The Holy Spirit, etc etc.. I was in a very spirit devoid cold, harsh church before i fell and so Ive seen the difference and I dont want to end up in the same again. Last time I fell away.

Makes you feel like your just a price tag. Also there were noone else except the welcoming person and the leaders that came and said hello even though others could see I was sitting there for myself. Much can be said but I dont think as all new that its so much the newcomer that should, as after all, youre new, right. Like I said much can be said, but its just not what were supposed to be like.

Many of those people that marry fast might feel they dont have as much time left to have children. But well they could always put their own eggs away, or adopt. For narcissists and psychopaths churches must be a field day, as there they can go far without discovery. Its like not being educated enough how evil manifest through others. We know its there, but dont really think it could work that way. They mostly get away with their behavior because noone can grasp, that anyone can be devoid of empathy and feelings, or dont care how they treat others. That becomes psychopathic in itself to force someone so ill to have more children. What a terrible destruction. God would never do such.

Its all in thoughts and the thoughts programmed into you. Then, when you dont clear them the evil uses it to build strongholds so you cant get free. So clear out, find the roots and the programming, who said what when and contradict those thoughts with the opposite as it cant stay, when the light exposes the truth. If you accept you cant forgive, or that its natural to be like that, you cant change. When its not how God is, that shows you, its not natural. Its a lie from the evil.

Theres no problem with yours and mine when both have access to each private accounts. Theres no difference but youre safeguarding yourself in case something happens, or so you can live and do the stuff just mentioned. Lets just take me as an example. Before I came back to The Lord, my friend and me lived as one I had no bank account and no money of my own. Also when I was working my money went in to his. I couldnt insure my pet, it had to be with a card in my own name. I had to be nervous everytime I bought something as it wasnt my card or if i needed to return something, sometimes it nearly went bad. Then the police wouldve arrested me. I couldnt get a contract for either phone or rentals as i needed a card and own money. If something wouldve happened to him i wouldve had no chance in even buying food or rent. I couldnt build a credit score either. Oh, all in the name of oneness, right?! ABUSE. To not enable to make it on your own, to buy and do, is abuse. Thats not oneness. Joint account? If the things are seen to so all not just one have these freedoms. Otherwise its still abuse.

Who in their right mind will deny the other their own bank account with money??? Thats abuse. In these days you cant live without it.

How can a own bank account with own money be separation when both got access to each and still uses it as one? In these times you cannot do anything barely buy a bus ticket without your own account, in your name as everything else is considered fraud. You cant buy something and for whatever reason return it if you have no bank card in your name, thats considered fraud. You cant shop online, you cant pay with a card not yours heaven forbid they discover it. You cant have menberships that demand standing orders. You cant make agreements. You cant even rent. Practically you cant do anything. You cant even build your credit so in case of emergencies or even divorce you have nothing. You cant even insure your pet as they demand standing orders or, card in your name. When and not if enwrgency strikes you cant do anything. To deny and prevent these things are not to love the other like yourself. Theres nothing wrong having one joint account and one to yourself because of these things. Life is not what it has been and everything is done with card and scores.

There is that one.. Then there are extremely many catholic churches in this area, and one baptist and a few anglican..thats it.. Other I have to travel one hour over that for mayybe one that miight seem to have it.. Thats a long way with illneses and public transports. Dont even think would get there in time a sunday morning as sunday transport. Ill find out. What do you do stay home? another thing the church was very keen to know what I worked with, I was asked by several of the leaders of the church. I couldnt shake the feeling about being interviewed about my life either. Im very open, for some too open so I mightve not passed their mark as they were going to call me about home groups. Noones called or written as yet. I was even asked like this; do you work? I know its standard to ask people about work as a means to be social I have never liked that either when its the first you ask. If in a convo its different. But this were several leaders asking. The second I was told was I was gonna be informed too about membership. I was like.. Whaaattt?? Just there to check out just put my foot in! Theres no way in my mind I can justify going that fast to membership. Can you? I know that its in small things like this people reveal themselves, its easy make excuses many times when happening like this I wish I hadnt. Evil uses it to the max. This cant clearly be ok, can it???

I think so, to be able to see what evil is and to help others out of its claws. It becomes very insidious when narcissista and psychopaths are allowed in a church. Not many know about those ones are devoid almost or are devoid of a normal feeling soul.

Im talking beatings or emotional or psychological abuse, not taking consequences in form of paying your pocket money for a broken window, thats just a good one and muuuuuch better than the abuse. With abuse, you take the soul and create fear, love is way gone.

The quiverfull kinda like, cant say no to more children, even though the body is had enough

The buble does not say a female HAVE TO grow long hair, and never cut it. Or, not wearing pants. God is not a God of that kinda force.

Paul say that anger is a fruit of the antichrist.. When mentioning the fruits..

Theres no problem you admit it we all have done or do something if not the one then the other. so in that respect no sin is less or more. Its whats in our hearts that means more.

Ha no, Im against abortion as The Lord and me cries over the aborted babies(I do agree with adoption). Theres no need for planned parenthood. But control of lust and desires. Which the bible talks against. Yea, in a marriage. That will say, not to xcess. I go so far i say, only procreation.

How do you find a spirit filled church? A church with healing and prayer services that know how important prayer is and not just one time each week kinda thing? That are comfortable with that some can be possessed and deliverance? Where the gifts are in action? Guess Im looking for a first century biblical church.. The church I visited they told me they USED to have healing services. Prayer? Oh, if need be..or sometime once a week.. What do you say about those responses.

Its not like you try force hugh someone that doesnt like it more look for whats comfy for them, their personality, well all in your power to love them without crossing them the most actually dont know what love is and many hate themselves so Ive found many respond positive to just even a little. But yes some cant handle it but what did Jesus do?

Also if you clean often and hoover it might not be so bad. Some hoover the cat lol. But a hairless one..if its the hair.. Or short hair..