Hidden In Him

Thanks to everyone for their replies. I can tell this is going more in the direction of the third dream I referenced (which I find the most interesting as well), but for now I will post the second dream along these same lines.

This dream was posted by Heart2Soul recently on another thread, and I recognized almost instantly what it was about. I spoke to her in private, and it is a dream she had many years ago but never got an interpretation for, and has just recently experienced it being brought back to her remembrance quite a bit. That means the time of its fulfillment is now closer at hand.

As posted in the thread:

19 hours ago, Heart2Soul said:

I was just remembering a dream I had a few years back and I never shared it with anyone but I have remembered it now and then....I would love an interpretation if anyone here has that gift.

I was walking up a city sidewalk with Jesus by my side....we were engaged in conversation but I couldn't hear what was being said...there were the usual city streets, city businesses and buildings as what you would see today....the sidewalk we were walking on had a fairly steep incline...there was no traffic on the streets, nor were there any people, the time of day seemed to be around dusk because the sun was going down in the west....as we were walking and talking 3 GOLDEN crosses appeared in the sky...(like the 3 crosses of the crucifixion)....but brilliance of them was so beautiful and bright and I could see golden rays coming out of the middle one which was the largest one and those rays penetrated the other 2 on each side and they began to radiate and shine like the middle one but there were no rays just brilliant gold with....I turned to ask Jesus about them and He wasn't beside me anymore...then I woke up....

I have always wondered what we were talking about....why no one was around...why the crosses appeared and why He left...

My interpretation was as follows:

16 hours ago, Hidden In Him said:

Your dream is about walking with Jesus “side by side” in times of persecution. It begins with you walking “up” a sidewalk with Him, which you describe later in the dream as being a “fairly steep incline.” This communicates that walking with Him is an “uphill climb,” meaning one should expect it to be “marked by difficulty, or strong resistance.” ( https://www.thefreedictionary.com/uphill, see #3).  

- That you “couldn’t hear what was being said” means even you yourself were not ready to hear this strong message quite yet, though He was walking with you and wanting to communicate it to you.
- The "city streets, businesses, and buildings," yet with “no traffic nor people anywhere” represents how few are walking with Him in persecution, despite the fact that many should be in your part of the world.
- The time of day is dusk, when the sun is going down = This is Very important. It means darkness is coming, and with it persecution will ensue. 
- The three Golden Crosses again symbolize joining with Christ in His crucifixion, and the golden rays represent the glory of God that results from doing so (Philippians 2:3-10). When we join with Christ in His crucifixion, we do not take any glory upon ourselves, we merely share with Him in His. This is why the rays of the largest cross (i.e. Christ’s) penetrate the other two. Paul once taught that our light afflictions work for us a far more exceeding weight of glory (2 Corinthians 4:17), yet in another place he said he was bearing in his body the marks of Jesus Christ (Galatians 6:17), and therefore merely filling up His afflictions (Colossians 1:24), thereby giving all the glory to Christ rather than himself.

This is the basic meaning of your dream. Please feel free to ask questions, and God bless.

Most significant here was the fact that the sun was going down, meaning darkness was coming. And if this dream was given years ago, that means the darkness is even closer now to falling than it was then. This would also tie into the imagery of the third dream, in that servants of darkness in the highest positions of leadership in the land may be coming...

I will post the final dream whenever I have the chance to write it up, together with supporting material from what I know of Hillary Clinton and her association with people like Marina Abramovic. But for now, thanks to everyone for their thoughtful replies.

20 hours ago, Heart2Soul said:

I was just remembering a dream I had a few years back and I never shared it with anyone but I have remembered it now and then....I would love an interpretation if anyone here has that gift.

I was walking up a city sidewalk with Jesus by my side....we were engaged in conversation but I couldn't hear what was being said...there were the usual city streets, city businesses and buildings as what you would see today....the sidewalk we were walking on had a fairly steep incline...there was no traffic on the streets, nor were there any people, the time of day seemed to be around dusk because the sun was going down in the west....as we were walking and talking 3 GOLDEN crosses appeared in the sky...(like the 3 crosses of the crucifixion)....but brilliance of them was so beautiful and bright and I could see golden rays coming out of the middle one which was the largest one and those rays penetrated the other 2 on each side and they began to radiate and shine like the middle one but there were no rays just brilliant gold with....I turned to ask Jesus about them and He wasn't beside me anymore...then I woke up....

I have always wondered what we were talking about....why no one was around...why the crosses appeared and why He left...

Thanks.

Ok, here is your interpretation as promised.

Your dream is about walking with Jesus “side by side” in times of persecution. It starts with you walking “up” a sidewalk with Him, which you describe later in the dream as being a “fairly steep incline.” This communicates that walking with Him is an “uphill climb,” meaning one should expect it to be “marked by difficulty, or strong resistance.” (https://www.thefreedictionary.com/uphill, see #3). 

- That you “couldn’t hear what was being said” means even you yourself were not ready to hear this strong message quite yet, though He was walking with you and wanting to communicate it to you.
- The "city streets, businesses, and buildings," yet with “no traffic nor people anywhere” represents the fact that few are walking with Him in persecution, despite that many should be in your part of the world.
- The time of day is dusk, when the sun is going down = This is Very important. It means darkness is coming, and with it persecution will ensue. 
- The three Golden Crosses again symbolize joining with Christ in His crucifixion, and the golden rays represent the glory of God that results from doing so (Philippians 2:3-10). When we join with Christ in His crucifixion, we do not take any glory upon ourselves, we merely share with Him in His. This is why the rays of the largest cross (i.e. Christ’s) penetrate the other two. Paul once taught that our light afflictions work for us a far more exceeding weight of glory (2 Corinthians 4:17), yet in another place he said he was bearing in his body the marks of Jesus Christ (Galatians 6:17), and therefore merely filling up His afflictions (Colossians 1:24), thereby giving all the glory to Christ rather than himself.

This is the basic meaning of your dream. Please feel free to ask questions, and God bless.

In Christ,
Hidden

Greetings in Christ! And blessings to everyone who reads this thread.

In the last month or so I have come across three separate dreams that all point in the same direction: Violence may be coming to Christians in the United States in the foreseeable future. These three dreams I will post in succession in this thread. I am not necessarily seeking responses so much as simply posting it as a type of prophetic warning for those who might be effected. This will be something the church in the West is not accustomed to, so the more those who will be involved are warned in advance, the more they will be prepared to deal with it without losing faith or hope in Christ in the midst of it.

Should anyone have any questions, they can post me here or privately.

Dream #1 (posted three weeks ago, at another Forum I occasionally frequent):

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"I woke up this morning to this very vivid dream - as if I was right there.  It was dreary (either dawn or dusk in a snowy/freezing rain/wet and potentially icy roads scene).  I can't remember seeing anything so clearly in person and I don't watch scary movies for thrills and didn't have a late night snack that might make me have a dream like this.  I am asking you for any insights God may give you.  The young man appeared in color, though I really only noticed his head and the amputated left arm with freshly exposed flesh in color.

DREAM:  I am driving down the road. I forget where I was going - maybe home - but it certainly felt like it was something that was a regular routine.  An alert came on my phone about BLOOD in the area.  I had never seen a warning like that before on my phone.  Then, a map popped up and the "blood" was on the entry ramp to the highway that I was about to get on.  I pulled over and got out of the car.  Others had pulled over, too, and some were ahead of me on the scene trying to help.  Yet, I yelled "I'm calling 911." three times as I was dialing.  Then this young man came to me (all of the sudden and out of seemingly out of nowhere) with his left arm completely chopped off about a few inches below the shoulder.and said in an eerily calm voice: "You need to take me to the hospital now."  It didn't even appear that he was dripping blood (like it would need a torniquet), it was just open flesh.  I didn't even notice a bone just open flesh.  So, I yelled down the road I had been on "Does anyone know how to put a torniquet on?"  three times I yelled the same thing with no reply.  Then, I was going to be taking him and wondering  how I was going to get a policeman's attention on the way since I was in an insufficient vehicle to drive as fast as I felt I needed to in order to get the young man to the hospital.  The reason I felt that was it had recently snowed and the roads were wet and potentially icey and I was driving our rear-wheel drive car (which is not very safe to drive fast in icey conditions).

I woke up to that dream at shortly after 5 AM this morning.

Thoughts?"

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My interpretation for him was as follows:

"Greetings...

I believe your dream is a serious one, and a warning that violence may be coming to Christians in America in the foreseeable future. The symbolism breaks down piece by piece as follows:

- Dreary, potentially icy roads/ unsafe traveling conditions = The road some Christians and Christians ministries in the US will be traveling in the future will be a violent one, “unsafe” for the flesh.
- You feel you are “driving home” = Sufferings are the path Christians have traditionally taken to get “home,” i.e. to Heaven, and it will be so again here.
- “It felt like a regular routine” = This suggests the regular routine of the modern church is going to be broken. The modern church has had it easy (at least in the West) until relatively recently, making the violent attacks that will be coming seem like something “new.” But the fact is, persecution and affliction have always been a part of life for believers since New Testament times. As Paul once told Timothy, “all who live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.” (2 Timothy 3:12)
- Phone = Messages coming through a phone usually represent receiving prophetic warnings from God, and this is the case here as well. This entire dream is essentially a message to you that violent attacks are going to be coming to believers. You “received” this message on your “phone” when you received this dream.
- “Blood in the Area” = “in the area” here is taken to mean the US, though it may also refer to attacks in your area specifically. But keep in mind, the early stages of this dream’s fulfillment might start happening soon, but the greater likelihood is that this will take place in coming years and decades, not weeks or months.
- Highway = An expression for taking the “highway” to Heaven, which involves “suffering unto blood” (Hebrews 12:4). The “ramp” leading to this highway is afflictions, as indicated by the blood in that area specifically.
- Cars “pull over” and try to help = Cars refer to ministries in dreams, and that they will “pull over” (i.e. from their normal ministry functions) means that they will be redirecting their efforts towards helping the afflicted once this phenomenon starts becoming more common.
- No answer from 911 = These attacks will no longer be stopped by human authority. This is rather frightening, but it is what appears to be represented here. But again, understand that this will be ordained of God, since believers are ultimately appointed to it (1 Thessalonians 3:3).
- A man says, “You need to take me to the hospital now” in eerily calm voice = Suggests he will be resigned to it. This may be due to a certain feeling of helplessness among believers in coming years. It appears they will feel there is no way to stop it, which again would make sense if the authorities are turning more of a blind eye. The “hospital” here would be deliverance from such conditions.
- Man appears suddenly, with his arm chopped off = Islamic terrorism... While the attacks will probably come from a variety of sources, Islam may in all likelihood become the dominant one eventually. Islam is a religion of the sword, and an arm being "chopped off" is indicative of a sword wound. But now please don’t misunderstand. This should not be taken as literally describing the types of weapons that will use; only the source behind where these attacks will in all likelihood be coming from: Islamic terrorist cells operating within the US. This may seem like a reach on such a scanty symbolic reference, but I know of other prophecies that suggest Islam is going to bring terrorism to US shores eventually. And again, what makes terrorism so frightening is that it comes “out of nowhere.”
- Arm not dripping blood = Tricky, but after prayer I sensed this points to how the man’s blood had already fallen “in the area,” i.e. into the ground. Scripture says that the martyrdom of the saints often results in their blood “calling out from the ground,” meaning that the area itself will call out to God for judgment against the oppressors. This would make it yet another suggestion that those who appeal to the authorities and get little help from them, and have no choice but to turn to God for deliverance.
- No reply to “Does anyone know how to put on a tourniquet?” = Tourniquets prevent blood flow, with the suggestion here that the church will be helpless to prevent blood loss from occurring. It will have already occurred, and trying to stop the coming persecution will be futile.
- Not able to get to a hospital fast = This means that this coming time of persecution and affliction is going to last for a good while, before anything resembling “healing” comes.

... Let me know if you have any thoughts on this interpretation.

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The other two dreams I received were from members here at Worthy; one posted publicly, and the other sent to me in private. The one in private suggests one of the reasons why authorities may increasingly fail to come to the aid of persecuted Christians in this country is that the next two Presidential terms following Trump's stay in office may usher in wicked people who secretly serve the kingdom of darkness (as Hillary Clinton does). This, combined with an increased social climate of hatred towards Christians in general will be what eventually leads to an entirely different spiritual climate in this country in coming years.

I will post the other two dreams at a later time.*

In Christ,

Hidden

*Please note: The other two dreams are posted on pages 2 and 3 respectively.

16 minutes ago, Heart2Soul said:

I was walking up a city sidewalk with Jesus by my side....we were engaged in conversation but I couldn't hear what was being said...there were the usual city streets, city businesses and buildings as what you would see today....the sidewalk we were walking on had a fairly steep incline...there was no traffic on the streets, nor were there any people, the time of day seemed to be around dusk because the sun was going down in the west....as we were walking and talking 3 GOLDEN crosses appeared in the sky...(like the 3 crosses of the crucifixion)....but brilliance of them was so beautiful and bright and I could see golden rays coming out of the middle one, which was the largest one, and those rays penetrated the other 2 on each side and they began to radiate and shine like the middle one but there were no rays just brilliant gold within....I turned to ask Jesus about them and He wasn't beside me anymore...then I woke up....

I have always wondered what we were talking about....why no one was around...why the crosses appeared and why He left...

Yes. I know what it's about. It will take me a day or two to get to this, but I promise you I will.

Thanks for posting. 

On 8/27/2017 at 9:39 AM, George said:

Shalom everyone,

I'm curious on everyone's take on what Jesus meant when He said, 

John 14:12  "Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father.

Your brother in the Lord with much agape love,

George

On 9/14/2017 at 9:04 PM, GandalfTheWise said:

The third thing I find interesting is the phrase ὁ πιστεύων εἰς ἐμὲ (usually translated as something like "the one who believes in me").

A few interesting things about this phrasing....  This Greek participle emphasizes an ongoing action of believing.  It could be translated as "the one who is actively believing in me" or "the one believing in me".  There seems to be a direct emphasis on the action and process of believing as something more ongoing than a once-for-all type of emphasis.  I think that this seems to carry the idea of ongoing faith... rather than an initial act of faith or belief.

 

Excellent, Gandalf. This is I think a classic case where we pay dearly for short-changing the Greek instead of being exacting, since the wording is actually not "the one who believes" but "the one believing," which suggests an ongoing action. The article εἰς likewise should be translated "unto" or "upon," making the sentence "the one believing upon Me." Thus, it has nothing to do with conversion but with believing Him to do greater miracles, signs and wonders. He was saying that whosoever can believe upon Christ to do even greater miracles through them than He did Himself, will.

It makes it mirror what He was telling them in Mark 11:22-24 and Matthew 17:20-21, and why He scolded them occasionally with the words, "O you of little faith." Despite the miraculous works they did, the disciples did NOT fulfill this promise. I therefore believe it is going to be fulfilled during the end-times, when the Lord finally pours out His Spirit upon all flesh (Joel 2:28-31). 

Just curious about this, as I enjoy responding to people who are asking questions, as these are often the ones most open to receiving teaching, and hearing what is said.

Btw, ✝️His, in response to your thread, the answer to how to receive boldness is Prayer. This is implied especially in Ephesians 6:18-20, where Paul asked them to pray for him that he might speak the word boldly as he ought to. If an apostle needed prayer to become empowered with boldness, then so do we. 

"[be] praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints— and for me, that utterance may be given to me, that I may open my mouth boldly to make known the mystery of the gospel, for which I am an ambassador in chains; that in it I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak."

God Bless, 

Hidden In Him.

P.S. Thanks in advance to whoever answers my question about posting on this board.

1 minute ago, Hidden In Him said:

Let's approach it using your own (crude but effective) analogy:

"How do we fish for men when too many Christians have already peed in the pond?"

I think the answer is to create a new pond, with water that is as clean and clear as possible. Water, btw, is often symbolic of the word, which is supposed to run clear and clean from the throne of God Himself, like the river of life. So the answer would seem to be in praying that you can help develop a church where the water is pure and fresh, and where the Spirit of God is in full manifestation such that the fruit of the Spirit and His gifts are blatantly evident to all.

Would this be an easy thing to do? No. But it seems you are essentially answering your own question from the start: You have to create a new pond; one that is so different by comparison that they will know by seeing it only once that there is something entirely different about it, and that the first pond was actually just a filthy counterfeit of the type of atmosphere the Spirit of God Himself creates.

And sorry about all the typos in that post (corrected now). Sometimes I'm just writing way too fast, LoL.

2 hours ago, pg4Him said:

How do you evangelize to neighbors who grew up in church and now hate Christians? How do you overcome the stigma of worldly, career-driven, self-absorbed church members they grew up with? They look at me and say, sure you're a very nice person with an undeniable spiritual connection, but that is in spite of (not because of ) your Christianity.

People like this are a dime a dozen in my community.

Let's approach it using your own (crude but effective) analogy:

"How do we fish for men when too many Christians have already peed in the pond?"

I think the answer is to create a new pond, with water that is as clean and clear as possible. Water, btw, is often symbolic of the word, which is supposed to run clear and clean from the throne of God Himself, like the river of life. So the answer would seem to be in praying that you can help develop a church where the water is pure and fresh, and where the Spirit of God is in full manifestation such that the fruit of the Spirit and His gifts are blatantly evident to all.

Would this be an easy thing to do? No. But it seems you are essentially answering your own question from the start: You have to create a new pond; one that is so different by comparison that they will know by seeing it only once that there is something entirely different about it, and that the first pond was actually just a filthy counterfeit of the type of atmosphere the Spirit of God Himself creates.

On 4/20/2018 at 8:23 AM, pg4Him said:

3) Peter has always fascinated me. He showed us some of the greatest revelations and inspiring courage, followed by nosedives into stupidity. 

Not to derail the thread, but I found this one funny. Was talking about personality types with a friend just two days ago, and happened to liken myself in some ways to Peter (total hot-head at times, LoL).

2 hours ago, tigger398 said:

Since only certain people heard these sounds and I don't know why. So what does it mean. Sometimes I get so excited that he is coming soon. Then another year goes by. 

1 hour ago, tigger398 said:

What prophecy do you think is left. I thought we were done, and rapture is the next. 

1 hour ago, tigger398 said:

Yeah well now it's getting interesting. I always loved end times events, but so hard to understand. Then it becomes frustrating.

I'm starting to see where you are coming from, Tigger. Please don't get too caught up in the return of Jesus only. Contrary to what you might have heard, there are many other things that need to be fulfilled first, and we should not in my opinion be looking for the rapture right now. Please note: I do not want to get into having to debate those points with anyone right now; I am simply telling you not to worry about that so much, and you're getting disappointed when it doesn't happen is precisely WHY I don't think people should be worried about that. This is about a coming move of God, NOT the rapture. So relax. Everything is ok. Just keep living your life for the Lord all you can every day, like you are prepared to live out your whole life before going on to be with God. He is going to take care of you. 

2 hours ago, tigger398 said:

Ok you said this has been going on for a while and earlier.

What I meant was that the earliest references I know of are from 2011, but there might be some that are earlier which I didn't know about.

2 hours ago, tigger398 said:

So how do you know the 2011 is the one.

Is the one what? 

2 hours ago, tigger398 said:

Like we had blood moons before. How do we know the blood that past is the one.

With all due respect to those who ascribed to it, I never bought into the whole "blood moons" thing. I had no witness about it and never gave it a second though. This is different, simply because it seems to be coinciding with prophetic words that are going forth that a great move of God is now on the horizon.

2 hours ago, tigger398 said:

You said something about 1,000 years. Has it been 1,000 years since 2011 or what does 1,000 years mean.

No, no, LoL. I just quoted the verse about "a thousand years is as a day" to make the point that God's idea of something happening "soon" and ours are two different things. "Soon" for Him could mean we don't see the full manifestation until 40-50 years from now. "Soon" for me is right after I eat lunch. 

14 hours ago, tigger398 said:

I still don't understand why only certain people heard it and if it is a trumpet that were suppose to hear. We be in rapture already.

Actually, Tigger, I think this is more of a "let him who has ears to hear" sort of a phenomenon. Frankly, the sounds matter little to me personally. What matters to me are the consistent prophecies I now hear going forth from those who are spending significant time in prayer, as well as those I recognize to be true prophets of God.

The following was something sent to me just two nights ago from a brother I haven't heard from in 6-8 months, but out of the blue he posted me the following:

"In a church prayer meeting, second week of January, I had a closed vision of being suspended in space looking at the earth. It was far enough from me to be size of basketball. Very black background, no stars. I saw the poles reverse, north becoming south etc. The snow caps were white, the oceans blue, and the greens and browns were very very bright. It came close to complete rotation, to about 10 to 12 in clock terms to perfect alignment. The words 'Paradigm Shift' came clearly to mind. No voice, just the image in words as a thought. When I prayed it out, it referenced that we are in a season where we MUST BE READY ... I am led to believe through confirmation with others that there is a door opening, and opportunity knocks for many to be thrust into ministry of POWERFUL KINGDOM WORKS in numbers unseen in the past. GOD WORKS that will model RESURRECTION LIFE for ALL to see."

Though trumpets are never mentioned here, the tenor is the same as what I was describing in the previous post. A change is coming, and it appears the Lord is now sounding the alarm that the Spirit of God is going to go forth in power to destroy the works of the enemy. The time is coming. 

14 hours ago, tigger398 said:

Does this have to do with Jesus return. Cause doesn't other things have to come first.

No, actually. The return of Christ is what the Biblical symbolism of trumpets ultimately points to prophetically (including the Feast of Trumpets), but in terms of what is going on now, trumpets were in general a call to WAR first and foremost; a call to war against both sin and Satan (as most of Heart2Soul's post lays out). And this is what is going on. They are signs that the Spirit of God is about to be poured out in great Power upon His vessels to destroy the works of the enemy.

Now keep in mind, this has been going on for a while, since 2011 and earlier apparently. That should serve as a reminder that "a day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as a day." In terms of the way we judge time, it may be significantly longer in our time until we see the full manifestation of God's power being poured out to perform exceedingly great signs and wonders that shake this world to its foundations. But the trumpets appear to be signaling that war has now been declared in Heaven, and will eventually be made manifest on the earth.

Greetings, GandalfTheWise.  

1. Transportation: Walking while praying.

2. Classes: My least favorite was Chemistry in college. Hated it. My most favorite... 2 Thessalonians and 1 Thessalonians, not taught formally but by the Holy Spirit in my own study. For me, those months/years were more interesting and more like being under a Teacher than anything from my past.

3. Enoch, because of the times in which he lived and the legends surrounding him.

4. Gladiator, with Russel Crowe. Followed by the Lord of the Rings Trilogy, and The Hobbit series.

5. Sounds terrible, but myself, LoL. What I did for me was listen, and receive my own encouragement to keep serving God with all I had. 

On 12/26/2017 at 1:16 PM, ForHisGlory37 said:

He actually passed away a little over a year ago from cancer. 

This is actually indicative of what may be things to come, sister. It is prophesied that the judgments of God will return to the churches, and those who stand in authority yet distort His word are going to come under increasing chastisement. I have heard several stories of pastors actually dying in the pulpit in the last few decades, something almost unheard of until fairly recently.

On 12/25/2017 at 2:22 AM, Waggles said:

The old AOG congregations have degenerated into Hillsong and Paradise churches based on prosperity gospel and full 

of praise and worship music - we call them 'happy clappy' churches. 

LoL. That's pretty much the case here in the US as well, although in many cases they're no longer quite so happy anymore either. When the Holy Spirit leaves, it opens the door for all sorts of other spirits that are not so pleasant, especially gossip, back-biting and strife.

On 12/25/2017 at 2:22 AM, Waggles said:

The book of Acts is alive and is coming to fruition throughout the world, more so in the Third World and in Asia where the 

power of these signs is convicting people as to the truth of Jesus the Christ being the true God of salvation.

Think you could give some detail on this? I like hearing good reports, since they tend to be fewer in number then I wish they would be around here.

On 12/23/2017 at 11:49 PM, ForHisGlory37 said:

1 Corinthians 14: 31 For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted.

I think a problem, too, is that not many with the ability to receive revelation from God concerning prophetic utterances have been restored to the church as well. The previous verse (1 Corinthians 14:30) makes it clear that exercise of the gift of prophecy was to be accompanied by revelation, similar to how the gift of speaking in tongues was to be accompanied by the gift of interpretation (so that all might learn from the utterances going forth, as your verse points out). Prophecy and tongues are closely related in that they are like pure utterances from the Spirit. Revelation and interpretation are related in that they are more mentally-oriented, where what is communicated is then assimilated mentally for the benefit of the entire congregation. So all of it becomes a necessary part of the process, leading me to believe that the FULL array of the gifts need to be in operation in any given church on any given day, not just prophecy.

On 12/23/2017 at 11:49 PM, ForHisGlory37 said:

This kind of heretical teaching has stolen the power of the saints and has rendered them weak and defenseless

Defenceless absolutely. I have had on-going arguments with people at other forums about their claim that the Spirit of God only speaks words of encouragement, when nothing could be farther from the truth. Any quick glimpse of scripture makes one come away with an awareness that prophecy was most often used by God to warn His people of impending dangers, both spiritually and literally on occasion. It is the same today, and any church that rejects the Spirit of prophecy (for whatever reason) rejects the Lord's ability to warn them of what the enemy may be doing in their midst, and the possible judgments that might ensue if certain members do not repent. This was happening all the time in the New Testament period.

On 12/23/2017 at 11:49 PM, ForHisGlory37 said:

Joel 2:28-29 And it shall come to pass afterward, That I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and yours sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions: and also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

I quote this verse all the time, which when understood to be especially applicable today, makes the following verse you quoted all that much more important:

On 12/23/2017 at 11:49 PM, ForHisGlory37 said:

1 Corinthians 14:39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

We need to be desiring the gift of prophecy and praying for it incessantly. It is extremely important to the life and vitality of the church. If it were not, he would not have given this command.

3 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

This was not about money nor the love of it .

No, it was not. 

I'll try and get to it when I have some time, maybe later in the week hopefully.

God bless!  

37 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Now for the rest of the story.   that dream I had about the poor man , starving  and then becoming  a great large machine  .    I had it before I came to Christ .

I had it in Pennsylvania.     At the time I was visiting my girlfriends church ,  and I had actually committed adultery with her against her husband.

SHE had left her husband for me .    We had moved to Pennsylvania and were playing church .    And yes ,  looking back the sermons were not good

and it was so odd that not a one in the congregation , not the pastor which was her brother n law.  NOT a one was warning us we were in adultery.

They would have remarried us both .   SO I sure can see where that dream in fact was showing the poor state I was in and the lack of spiritual food they fed us both .

By the grace of GOD we split up.   I moved back home ,  was still a filthy thing by all means

and close to two years later ,  On may thirtieth ,  of two thousand and SIX,  GOD HIMSELF pulled me to HIM and everything changed .  A whole new heart

I know I did not say that was before hand .     I never thought too.    the other dream about the the being pulled into space and seeing that fruit

and then eating it and going back down into the churches.   I had that one too,   BEFORE I came to Christ , and at that time I too was visting a church

of my girl friend,  but it too had horrendous doctrines .     WOW.         What wonderful warnings the LORD was showng me .

TOOK him to GET the JOB done though.     HE was the one who pulled me out and a whole new heart was given MAY thirtieth of two thousand six.

Amazing aint it .  And he put me in THE BIBLE ONLY from that time onward.     AMAZING  . 

Just thought you would like to know that.    Those two dreams were BEFORE my rebirth.   BUT THE ONE dream about being pulled up into space

and seeing ALL those planets in perfect alignment ,   That was after my conversion.    AND it shows me WHAT GOD HIMSELF DID FOR ME .

AFTER he converted me .     NOW all the dreams make perfect sense .   Be blessed hidden in HIM.   and praise the LORD . 

That is amazing. 

Thanks for the explanation, Friend Of. Timing - and therefore context - has huge bearing on interpretation, so it pays to mention stuff like that too.

Just a heads up in case there's a next time.   

God bless.

On 12/17/2017 at 7:00 PM, frienduff thaylorde said:

I could see a poor skinny starving man in my closet.   as I looked closer his stomach started to swell and turn gray.

THEN it turned into this humongous machine that had sharp massive teeth.   under each of its eyes were two stripes ,  yellow and red one

it began to really open its mouth large and I could see it was filled with fire inside.   THEN I snapped up , woke up.   it was odd.

But what is it , why did it start out as a poor starving man and then just its belly grew and it turned grey and then into that huge destroying machine.

I have a feeling the red and yellow stripes under both its eyes mean something as well.  

Ok, now take this seriously. When the Lord sends you dreams He is speaking to you prophetically (Numbers 12:6, Jeremiah 23:28), and these dreams have all the tell-tale signs of being sent from Him. They have not faded from your memory like ordinary dreams, nor do ordinary dreams get brought back to your memory during a discussion with other believers. And when the Lord speaks prophetically it often comes with a warning, as they do here.

The meaning of your third dream is as follows:

- The poor skinny man is you, in an advanced state of starvation from the true word of God. Again, this references to what was presumably happening to you as a result of the rotten fruit you saw being offered in worldly churches in your first dream.
- That he is “in my closet” means that what the spiritual starvation creates in you (the machine) is something that could damage your reputation. The expression that someone had “skeletons in their closet” was used to describe that there were undisclosed facts about them which, if revealed, could damage how people perceived them. It evokes the idea of someone having a (presumedly human) corpse concealed in their home so long that it eventually decomposes. Skeletons "in your closet" may be a play on words here because you clearly see yourself as “skinny” and "starving." 
- That your stomach starts to swell and turn grey are symptoms of not just advanced starvation, but a particular kind of starvation where the victim is getting plenty of food, but with no protein in it. In other words, you were hearing plenty of preaching and thus receiving plenty of spiritual “food,” yet starving to death because there was (again) no true spiritual life or vitality in it. This condition is called Kwashiorkor, and it is what causes the bellies of starving children to swell up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwashiorkor.
- That the belly turns grey is another symptom of the vitamin deficiency caused by starvation. According to the wiki on starvation, “Vitamin deficiency is also a common result of starvation, often leading to anemia,” and anemia is one of the leading causes for skin to turn grey https://www.healthline.com/health/gray-skin#causes.
- Now, here is where the starvation threatened to have negative effects on your behavior. Please keep in mind that this dream was given to you a long time ago, and you may have dealt with this properly. You also may not have. I am simply telling you that this is where you were vulnerable to reacting in a way that was not of God.
- The stomach is what scripture refers to as our “bowels,” sometimes translated as “affections,” and in this case yours turns into a machine; a destructive machine with “sharp teeth.” And the imagery of teeth is used in scripture of believers potentially “biting and devouring” one another (Galatians 5:15). 
- The yellow and red stripes under the eyes are in all likelihood symbolic of the war paint used by American Indians. All such marks on their faces carried spiritual meaning, and much of it referenced their "spirit guides" (i.e. demons). Under the eyes means that demons would be causing you to see things the way they see them, and react accordingly. According to one Indian website, “Red color symbolizes war, blood, strength, energy, power and success in war,” and “Yellow color symbolizes the color of death… and that the wearer… was heroic and willing to fight to the death.” https://www.warpaths2peacepipes.com/native-american-culture/war-paint.htm. Now don't take those things as a compliment here. In this context, it’s not. That the man’s belly had morphed into a machine meant it would attack and bring (spiritual) death to others indiscriminately. As I was saying in the second interpretation, believers have to be discriminating in recognizing those who are part of Christ’s body and those who are not. His true disciples can come from all different spiritual backgrounds on their way to finding the truth, though they will gravitate towards the truth no matter where they start from, which is why indiscriminately declaring war automatically on others simply because they are from a particular Christian background can be a big mistake.
- The scariest part is in how, when the machine opens its mouth (i.e. speaks), it is filled with fire. Fire in its mouth here is a reference to the tongue being set on fire of Hell (James 3:6). Note James' teaching was that “wisdom” which engenders strife among the brethren is “earthly, soulish, and demonic.” (James 3:15. The specific Greek word used there is where we get our English word “demonic” from).

The last dream is a little scary, but I know you, and I have noticed how many of your posts are very caring and loving towards others. This is what the Lord desires from you. He wants you to overcome the effects of the spiritual starvation you experienced earlier in life, and continue to seek Him for true spiritual food with life-giving power in it. He also wants you to always see things from His perspective when it comes to judging others, and remain on guard against what the enemy wants to make of you. He wants to use you to generate strife and hatred, whereas the Lord wants you to speak only words that are sown in peace (James 3:17-18).

If you’d like, I can discuss any of these matters with you in private any time you'd like, so please just let me know. I’d be more than glad to offer any advice or encouragement I can give you when things get tough. And as I said before, I know how it is.     
 

2 hours ago, Abby-Joy said:

@secretopossumcabal Do you, or have you ever had one for a pet? We did for a short time when I was a kid. They are kinda stinky. Lol

I think that's the reason for the large toothbrush he's holding in a previous pic, LoL.

I'm guessing this one may have already been posted, but with 937 pages I'm just gonna roll with it.

Granted, I would never do this to one of my animals, but it is kinda cute, especially the head gear. Only so many people could pull this costume off.

1 hour ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

I would sooner gather with a group of bipolar pit bull dogs infected with aides

LoL. Certainly no strong emotions there. 

This site has been funny lately!

I imagine a bipolar pit bull is something to take seriously, LoL.