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    Marilyn C

    Posted · Edited by Justin Adams

    Certainly higher than the current occupants, save maybe a couple. We (like HIm) have been made a little lower than the angels, but unlike Him (Yeshua) we will not suffer death like He did. 

    We will be introduced in God's Throne Room with millions of witnesses,  and He will call us brothers... presenting us to the One That Sits on the Throne, The Ancient of Days. And as Yeshua shares His Father's throne, so we will share His.

    ayin jade

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    I have just read a lengthy account of some of the 'fables' that Saul may have been talking about. Remember he was in a place where many nations with many beliefs and languages met. He had probably heard it all. He was no mean scholar either, being educated under a notable master.
    I think he was referring, among other things, to the 'push' by powers of his day to change the days and names and imports of the days to come more in line with the pagans' ideals.
    The Church fathers indicate that up until 197, there was pressure to move the Sabbath to the first day of the week - that is, Sunday, a pagan day. Then, not soon after, Rome's representatives did indeed institute the Sunday as the new Sabbath. It has been misconstrued that is was the early Christians that did this.
    [http://sabbath.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/BOOK/k/955/Sunday-Lords-Day-Not-Traceable-to-Apostles.htm}

    Sabbath was changed by Rome: (and the penalties for non-conformity were sever)

    If the Protestant church of today knew what the Catholic church did in the past regarding the 7th Day Sabbath they would not be worshiping on Sundays today. 

    "The Pope has the power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ." "The Pope has the authority and often exercised it, to dispense with the command of Christ." -Decretal, de Tranlatic Episcop. Cap. (The Pope can modify divine law.) Ferraris' Ecclesiastical Dictionary. 

    Daniel 7:25, "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."

    ayin jade

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    For thousands of years, sadly, Christians threw out the baby with the bathwater. 

    I have stood in Oxford where Cranmer et al were burned. He was a reformer. He dared to question the Roman Church.

    I have read extra-canonical texts that Yeshua (Jesus) and Paul (Saul  of Tarsus) studied as well as some of the more obscure contemporary literature that also the Ethiopian's include in their canon. (Unaffected by Rome's dictates).

    It occurs to me that God is never limited by our sometimes hasty editing of "facts" that might be couched in "fiction".

    Read Jasher, and Enoch and a few other "Verboten" works and you might see what I mean.


    Also, check out the history of the austere body of "experts" that decided on the canon of what we should hesitatingly call, "Our Bible". Ask yourself this question: "Which of God's Ten Commandments do you willingly break?".
    Perhaps God's Sabbath?

    "Eye hath not seen, or ear heard..."

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