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Well,that's not why Israel suffers the wrath of God according to scripture. Luke 21 22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. One only needs to read of the persecution the church suffers in Israel and the sins committed in the book of revelation to understand why there will be wrath upon the Israelis at the time of Gods vengeance in the above verses.

Here is end times Israel. Ezekiel 9 He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand. 2 And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer's inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar. 3 And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer's inkhorn by his side; 4 And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof. 5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: 6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house. 7 And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city. 8 And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord God! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem? 9 Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The Lord hath forsaken the earth, and the Lord seeth not. 10 And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head. 11 And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me. You don't understand why God is so furious with the people in Israel and pours out his wrath upon them at the time of the end.You don't understand their sins they have committed even though it's spelled out for you right there in the book of revelation.A book they reject because they reject Jesus. Them who are marked in Ezekiel 9 believe in Jesus.Jesus is marking them.

I already understand end times Israel. A remnant will be saved.The majority are not.The remnant believe in Jesus and follow his instructions found in the gospel. They go throughout Israel preaching the gospel and warning the people to not take the mark of the beast .They spend 3.5 years being hated by their own people and treated as apostates who are enemies of the Israel .They are beaten and killed for their testimony of Jesus throughout all the cities of Israel.Then the end comes.The unbelieving Jews recieve the wrath of God and the Israelis who were murdered for their testimony of Jesus are resurrected and rewarded. Jesus spoke of end times Israel in the gospel .You should try reading the gospel to understand what takes place in Israel at the time of the end. The followers of Jesus in Israel will be betrayed to death by family members.Thats how much Jesus is hated in Israel by many. Mark 13 12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death. 13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Here's another quote. 12 And he began to speak unto them by parables. A certain man planted a vineyard, and set an hedge about it, and digged a place for the winefat, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country. 2 And at the season he sent to the husbandmen a servant, that he might receive from the husbandmen of the fruit of the vineyard. 3 And they caught him, and beat him, and sent him away empty. 4 And again he sent unto them another servant; and at him they cast stones, and wounded him in the head, and sent him away shamefully handled. 5 And again he sent another; and him they killed, and many others; beating some, and killing some. 6 Having yet therefore one son, his wellbeloved, he sent him also last unto them, saying, They will reverence my son. 7 But those husbandmen said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and the inheritance shall be ours.' 8 And they took him, and killed him, and cast him out of the vineyard. Who is the heir? The Son or the husbandmen who claim the inheritance is theirs?

Nothing select about it.Either they are in Christ or they are not .You should be able to tell the difference. Gal 3:29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise. As for who will be saved and who will not.Jesus said. Mark 16 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. If you want to preach that everyone in Canaan who does not believe the gospel,and rejects Christ shall be saved,then you are the denying the word spoken by our Lord.

As of now,the king of Babylon is ruling over the land of Canaan. Zion will be founded after the fall of the king of Babylon and his kingdom is given to the fire. It appears it may be near the end of 2028. Isaiah 14: 29 Do not rejoice, all you of Philistia, Because the rod that struck you is broken; For out of the serpent’s roots will come forth a viper, And its offspring will be a fiery flying serpent. 30 The firstborn of the poor will feed, And the needy will lie down in safety; I will kill your roots with famine, And it will slay your remnant. 31 Wail, O gate! Cry, O city! All you of Philistia are dissolved; For smoke will come from the north, And no one will be alone in his appointed times. 32 What will they answer the messengers of the nation? That the Lord has founded Zion, And the poor of His people shall take refuge in it.

This is the beast they have made for themselves this time . Amos 5 You have lifted up the shrine of your king, the pedestal of your idols, the star of your god[b]— which you made for yourselves. 27 Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,” says the Lord, whose name is God Almighty. It was made like unto the beasts of the nations,but they worship it more than any other beast and are following after it.Some believe the kingdom of the beast is the safest place on the planet for Jews.On the day of the Lord,The Israels who worship this beast will be cast out.They will in no wise enter the millinial kingdom. Mathew 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity

I'm not the one speaking nonsense. You claim the Israeli government that now rules Canaan is the rightful heir to the mountains of Israel,Then why does scripture say Christ is the heir to all the promises made to Abraham and his seed? Galatians 3:16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ. WHen did you decide Christ is no longer the heir to the mountains of Israel? PS I read what I quoted and understand who God had formed in the womb and who the light of the gentiles is for he is the light of the world.

I'm guessing you are not understanding the topic of the thread. This is about the beast Israel has made for itself to worship .The Israelis who worship the beast .And the Israelis who worship God in Christ. The one group of Israels who worship the beast made by the children of Israel are cast out of the millinial kingdom The Israelis who are killed for their testimony of Christ and who do not worship the beast ,or it's image or recieve it's mark ,shall live and reign with Christ in the millennial kingdom. Do you understand?

So you will have to excuse me,if I don't worship the beast which the children of Israel have made for themselves.You can call me antisemitic or whatever names you can come up with.Im.still not going to worship that beast. Amos 5 You have lifted up the shrine of your king, the pedestal of your idols, the star of your god[b]— which you made for yourselves. 27 Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,” says the Lord, whose name is God Almighty.

The children of Israel has come a long journey from the days of Moses,but some things dont ever change.When the children of Israel were to recieve the law of the covenant ,they had made a beast to worship and sinned before God. The children of Israel who worship the beast they have made for themselves will not enter the millinial kingdom.They will be cast out into outer darkness.They will go into exile on the day of the Lord. Amos 5 You have lifted up the shrine of your king, the pedestal of your idols, the star of your god[b]— which you made for yourselves. 27 Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,” says the Lord, whose name is God Almighty. The children of Israel who do not worship the beast,who die for their testimony of Jesus ,and who did not worship the beast,or it's image,or recieve it's mark will live and reign with Christ over the nations in the millinial kingdom. This is God's people Israel .A kingdom of priests and a holy nation. Revelation 20 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Revelation 20:4-6 is the fulfillment of Exodus 19:5-6 Exodus 19 4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself. 5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: 6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. Don't be surprised when all the plagues are smiting the children of Israel who have gone in the way of Egypt,to worship a beast that they have made for themselves.But the children of Israel ,who followed the lamb shall reign over the nations in the Lord's land.

That's like saying Herod is king of Israel .The mountains belong to Herod because Herod is Israel. Here is Israel in the bible.Can you tell me who Israel is? Isaiah 49 Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The Lord hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. 2 And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me; 3 And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified. 4 Then I said, I have laboured in vain, I have spent my strength for nought, and in vain: yet surely my judgment is with the Lord, and my work with my God. 5 And now, saith the Lord that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the Lord, and my God shall be my strength. 6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. 7 Thus saith the Lord, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the Lord that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee. 8 Thus saith the Lord, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages;

Nonsense. If you believe this government which calls itself Israel then you must believe Benjamin netanyahu is the Messiah for it is the Messiah that gathers Israel. It's them who are killed for their testimony of Jesus and who do not worship the beast or it's image or recieve it's mark that is God's chosen people.A holy nation and a kingdom.of priests. The beast which rules over them now is not God's chosen people.Its the Israeli government which I reject as being the legitimate ruler of God's chosen people.

Good grief. Israel droping 2000 pound bombs on peoples homes and you think Iran is beating them.

There's going to be a lot more of that taking place when the nations have defeated the king of Babylon. 2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.

Do you not read the news?

How about shooting a 13 year old American and putting him in prison for going home from a soccer game? That was in today's news.Istael has been shooting Palestinian children for decades.Its nothing new.

It's the bible that says Lucifer, king of Babylon is the aggressor against Palestinia and Lebanon before the time of the end.I dont see anyone else attacking Palestinia and Lebanon .Do you?

I simply don't worship the beast. The Israeli government is no better than hamas.

Israel is not hunting down terrorists. They are terrorists bombing everyone including women children and even infants.Israrl is even killing Israelis who beg for help while carrying white flags.They are bombing churches and shooting Christian women. And you say they are hunting down terrorists. Since when did Christian women become terrorists in your eyes? When did you start labeling infants as terrorists?

You have done nothing but lie and say the prophecies Jesus spoke of concerning his disciples being killed by Jews will not take place .Jesus plainly states this persecution of the saints takes place prior to his coming and will end with his coming.Mathew 23 says the same thing Mathew 10 and mathew 24 says about that persecution which you say is a lie.. Below is all of the things genea can mean so yes,this generation is still here.This is how the word works and can work. Word: genea Pronounce: ghen-eh-ah' Strongs Number: G1074 Orig: from (a presumed derivative of) 1085; a generation; by implication, an age (the period or the persons):--age, generation, nation, time. G1085 Use: TDNT-1:662,114 Noun Feminine Heb Strong: H410 H1755 H2233 H2567 H3117 H3211 H4940 H5971 H7256 H8029 1) fathered, birth, nativity 2) that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a family 2a) the several ranks of natural descent, the successive members of a genealogy 2b) metaph. a group of men very like each other in endowments, pursuits, character 2b1) esp. in a bad sense, a perverse nation 3) the whole multitude of men living at the same time 4) an age (i.e. the time ordinarily occupied by each successive generation), a space of 30-33 years This generation will be killing all the disciples of Jesus in Israel.Yhey will be persecuted from town to town is Israel till Christ comes just as Jesus said in n Mathew 23 and Mathew 10 23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. And they will be beaten in the synagogues just as Jesus said Mathew 23 and Mathew 24. 34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. When Christ comes,that beast will be cast into the lake of fire and the false prophet who helps that beast as well.

I expect you don't know that modern day rabbinic Judaism came from the Pharisees.The Pharisees are alive and well in Israel.They have been thriving . But sadly ,you don't know scripture.you believe this generation of scribes and Pharisees no longer exist but in reality,they do. Try paying attention to scripture and you will find that Jesus said these things take place just before his coming.not 2000 years before his coming. Now here is what you say will not take place. Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. You claim that it is a lie to say Jesus disciples will be beaten in the synagogues and persecuted from town to town in Israel.But that is exactly what Jesus teaches in the gospel. Luke 21 12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake. Mathew 10 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. And you say it's all lies. You will deny everything Jesus taught about the end times and the persecution in Israel because of your support for the beast.

PS Jesus said ALL the righteous blood shed upon earth.Not some. Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. The same is said for Babylon in revelation. Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth Same king of Babylon smiting Palestine with his rod today will be killing Jesus disciples tomorrow.

Palestine is not wiped out by the United states till after Lucifer ,king of Babylon is overthrown by the nations around him. Your support for the king of Babylon is strong.I bet you will support him as he spills the blood of prophets and of saints.

You believe Jesus lied about his disciples being persecuted throughout the towns of Israel before he comes? Mathew 10 23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. You believe Jesus lied about his disciples being beaten in the synagogues before he comes? Luke 21 12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake. You do err not knowing the scripture of truth.