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R. Hartono

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  1. 11 hours ago, The Light said:

    I believe this is incorrect brother. The 70th week will not begin when the 1st seal is opened. The 70th week will begin when the prince confirms a covenant with many for one week.

    Daniel 11

    27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

    The same event.

  2. Bible says the OT saints and the dead in Christ will be raised first and taken to the cloud, then you the living Christians Will follow them.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Thessalonians 4%3A16-17&version=KJV 

    Theres no rapture at the 2nd coming as the saints already return from heaven with Jesus.

  3. On 8/21/2023 at 5:34 PM, Shilohsfoal said:

     

    Now this is my favorite rapture verse.Id say it's the best I've seen.

     

    John 17:15

    My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one.
     

    The church Will be on earth otherwise who will spread the Gospel. But Until the Harvest where the wise virgins are gathered to the wedding of the Lamb. 

    Night Will come where nobody can work.

  4. The last 70th week of Daniel that we know as the great tribulation / the Times of Jacob's trouble is suspended by the Rapture until the fullness of Gentiles is reached. 

    As the 70th week of Daniel will begin with the 1st seal opening.

  5. John 16:2 The time cometh that whosoever kill you will think that they did a service to God.

    Some numbers of Christians have been martyred from time to time in the last 2000 years. The most brutal was during the Inquisition by RCC.

    When Lord Jesus preached at a synagogue He quoted Isaiah 61:1-2 but He stopped until "to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord". 

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke 4%3A14-30%2CIsaiah 61&version=ESV

    It had been about 700 years for the fulfillment of this verse until Jesus birth :

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah 61&version=KJV 

    The next verse of Isaiah 61:2 of taking revenge and comforting those who mourn has yet to be fulfilled.

    We are still waiting when will God ever show up to rescue the wise virgins and take revenge and comfort those that mourn. It has been 2000 years of waiting for The wonderful Counselor, The Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. As Isaiah called Him.

    https://www.wnd.com/2023/08/wanted-shoot-christians-class/

     

  6. 6 hours ago, Arrowcreek said:
    Dear Brothers & Sister

    We are hearing in the news that they intend to threat us with a new Pandemic again, by Masking up and Walking 6 feet apart as we go out in public places. They are in the process of creating a new Vaccine and our President wants congress to approve the money for it. How many of us know this don't work. We know that Our Father will protect His own, so where is your Faith and Trust as God the Father will do it. Amen

    God Bless


    "For I will pass through the land of Egypt on that night, and will strike all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.

    ‘Now the blood shall be a sign for you on the houses where you are. And when I see the blood, I will pass over you; and the plague shall not be on you to destroy you when I strike the land of Egypt." Exodus 12:12-13
     

    The next pandemic ? They wont loose their grip on humanity, will they ? 

    I have written something about that pandemic 

    https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/268947-global-deception-by-end-times-great-men-of-the-earth-merchants-of-babylon-with-pharmakeia-deceiving-nations/

     

  7. Rev. 4: 4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

    Listen to what they said about themselves straight to the point, loud and clear.

    Rev. 5:9 ... .for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation.

    Rev. 5: 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

    They shall reign on the earth in Jesus Millennium after the Great Tribulation wipe off the unGodly civilization. As they watch the Lamb opens the Seals showing most bloody tribulation of the world.

    Number 24 means priesthood. 1 Chronicles 24 explains there are 24 divisions of all priests who served in the service at the Temple. See the 24 divisions here :

    https://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Christmas/christmas.html#loaded

    The 24 Divisions represents all priests that served at the Temple, the same scheme that the 24 elders represents all the saints.

    They represent the Victorious wise virgins fetched up to the Feast of the Lamb.

    Rev. 3:21 Those who is Victorious I will give the rights to sit with me at My Throne.....

    God bless.

     

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  8. On 8/21/2023 at 5:34 PM, Shilohsfoal said:

     

    Now this is my favorite rapture verse.Id say it's the best I've seen.

     

    John 17:15

    My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one.
     

    Wise virgins shall be fetch up, foolish virgins left behind and screamed in horror "Lord Loord, open to us".

    ....."I know you not".

  9. On 4/13/2023 at 1:46 PM, S. Carpenter said:

    I would like to have someone look at this video to decide if it can be allowed.

    Title: "Why Does This Christian Think About This All The Time?"
    Person/s: Ray Comfort interviewing young man who has given permission for him to interview him on video but who is also unnamed.
    TOPIC: This is about suicidal thoughts. Living Waters addresses the reality that many young people are increasingly suicidal -- and yes, even Christians.
    Length: 5 minutes 50 seconds
    Link:  https://livingwaters.com/why-does-this-christian-think-about-suicide-all-the-time/
    Not copyrighted, free to use per Living Waters CEO Ray Comfort

    Do you really see it in reality ?

  10. https://www.timesofisrael.com/at-un-biden-reaffirms-commitment-to-two-state-solution-for-israelis-palestinians/ 

    Revelation 11:2 ...and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

    With the socalled "Two states solution" or "International city" or whatever.

    https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Jerusalem-as-an-International-city-in-the-UN-partition-Plan-1947_fig2_227535419 

    Somebody will come to force this deal under a covenant binding all parties involved.

    https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2021-11/pope-francis-audience-palestine-president-abbas.html 

    God has given the land for the Hebrew :

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 3%3A8&version=ESV

    This has been prophesied as apostle John has seen it.

  11. On 8/9/2023 at 11:29 PM, JohnD said:

    Okay. We all approach things in different ways to try to get our heads around a thing. We're all wired differently in some ways and the same in other ways.

    From earliest revelation in scripture, the evidence that the Judeo-Christian Bible is authentically the Word of God, we find cosmological view in ancient texts that could not have originated from ancient man (who had no true concept of the cosmos or even the world around us). An example is:

    Job 26:7 (KJV)
    7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

    In arguably the oldest book in the Bible comes the concept that planet Earth is suspended in outer space. At the time, man could not discern if the world was all there is to creation... and that the sun moon and stars were all miniature spheres or points of light in the dome shaped vault of sky overhead. Yet here is an accurate description of Earth cosmology.

    Also in the oldest book of the Bible:

    Job 38:13–14 (KJV)
    13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?
    14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.

    A seal was a ring or tube of some sort with a design etched on it to rotate over clay seals or tablets before they dried usually by using a stick or thong of leather. The sun moon and stars all appeared to ancient man to rotate around the earth, how is it then that we have in ancient texts that it is actually the earth that rotates? God must have inspired the writers of the biblical texts. 

    All of this is to briefly demonstrate the certainty that the Bible is the Word of the God who created all things created.

    Based on that Word, not the testimony of man or the traditions of man or religion or whatever... we have prima facie proof that

    • God exists (Isaiah 46:9 / Psalm 53:1 / Psalm 19:1)
    • God created all things created (Genesis 1:1 / John 1:3 / Colossians 1:16 ? Hebrews 1:2)
    • That God exists at the same time in the same way as three individuals (Father, Son, Holy Spirit)
    • God the Son created all things created in the beginning alone by himself (John 1:3 / Colossians 1:16 / Nehemiah 9:6 / Isaiah 44:24)
    • This lone Creator became human without sacrificing his deity to pay the sin debt of all mankind (John 1:1 / John 1:14 / Philippians 2:6-8 / 1 Timothy 4:10 / 1 John 2:2)
    • That there is only one way to activate that prepaid salvation in every individual account and that is by belief in the genuine Jesus (as revealed in scripture) John 3:16-18
    • God made it deliberately clear that this activation of salvation does not include works rather that human salvation is and can only be God's work alone Ephesians 2:8-10
     
    God wants us to believe him / take him at his word.

    John 6:29 (KJV)
    29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

    John 16:27 (KJV)
    27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

    Sometimes you have to take things on face value albeit on God's good authority.

    We do this all the time, from the way we shop, vote, drive cars, pay taxes, etc. It should not be any more difficult to accept these things than these or, say, the fact that your parents claim to be your parents... you have no way of knowing otherwise... you were too young to remember being born...

    You need to forgive people that God may forgive you too

     

  12. 28 minutes ago, other one said:

    He did a hour and a half interview with Tucker that i watched yesterday that everyone should look up and watch. He pretty much laid out the whole history of the problems there.

    I fear that honest potus would end up like Lincoln or JFK.

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