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R. Hartono

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  1. And he Will come back with Two States Solution to divide the land of Israel after the election
  2. May be meat are just as bad as the ancient Daniel's time, if you eat that every day. Daniel 1:15 And at the end of ten days their countenances appeared fairer and fatter in flesh than all the children which did eat the portion of the king’s meat.
  3. Jesus didnt say to those Jews "I'll make Israel great again"
  4. You said This first seal reveals the PROPHETIC union between Christ and His Church Jesus's union with His church is well understood by apostle John 50 years be4 he rcvd the Revelation at Patmos island and John already knew that, why would John cried for the things he already knew ? Rev 6:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
  5. This is a video which will answer ur question : search in Youtube with : The Origin of Giants After The Flood (lineage) youtube.com/watch?v=M5CLbF5oXWM Goliath is not a nephilim.
  6. I only eat meat once in a month. I recover from high blood pressure without medicine which can destroy kidney in the long run.
  7. Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: Jesus covenant is everlasting covenant, not one week. Hebrew 13:20 Now the God of peace, who brought up from the dead the great Shepherd of the sheep through the blood of the eternal COVENANT, even Jesus our Lord,
  8. THE JEWS ARE WAITING FOR MESSIAH AND ELIJAH TO COME AND RULE THE WORLD AT THE END OF TIMES, THEIR BELIEF IS EXPLAINED BY GOD IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION 13. But the 2 beasts will not be allowed to rule the unbelieving and ignorant world until the Holy Spirit and the church in which He works is removed.
  9. Holy Spirit is still with church now which restrains antichrist
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    144,000?

    They are literal Israel, not spiritual Israel, we christians are spiritual Israel but we dont belong to the 12 tribe of Israel, because we are only spiritual Israel.
  11. 1. There is no word "noble rider" its your own words. 2. The union between Christ and His church has been widely known to people ever since He established the first church of apostles, which was continued by the apostles in the book of Acts. Tell me why God would hide this thing already known to people with a seal ? Jesus ministry has begun about 50 years be4 John rcvd the Revelation at Patmos island and John already knew that, why would John cried for the things he already knew ? Rev 6:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. See above verse, if Jesus didnt open the seal nobody will know the secret of end times situation, Jesus union and His church is not a secret of end times that needs to b hidden with seals, everybody knows already that Jesus and His church is a union, not a secret at all.
  12. John saw 2 groups of people in heaven 1st : The great multitude in front of the Throne 2nd : The souls under the altar waiting revenge The 1st group speaks about 1 Thes 4:16-17 (resurrection of church age saints and rapture of the living saints) The 2nd group speaks about those left behind by the rapture and beheaded.
  13. The first martyr and all martyrs in the Church Age shall be raised be4 the great tribulation and we which are alive shall be caught up together with them in the clouds. 1 Thes 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: John saw them as the Great Multitude of Rev 7 Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, STOOD BEFORE THE THRONE (not under the Altar), and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; But other than the great multitude in heaven John also saw the souls under the altar that must wait for their brethren, these souls under the altar are not part of the great multitude STOOD BEFORE THE THRONE. Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
  14. There's no need for God to hide the union between Christ and His church with a seal, in fact it is not a secret since it began.
  15. They will be resurrected and reign with Christ, these are the tribulation saints who did not came out of great tribulation and beheaded. Rev 20:4 .... and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
  16. Like Philip did. Acts 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing. 40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Cæsarea.
  17. Noah was taken to the safety of the ship and the world was left for destruction, the same thing in the end of times. church shall be taken to the Feast of the Lamb.
  18. This verse is showing the rapture : Matt 24:40 "Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left. Which is later explained by Paul : 1 Thes 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
  19. The 2 prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth, which clearly shows they will roam the earth. Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
  20. Please would you look at youtube for this video : Two Israeli Jews explain the gospel in Jerusalem like you've never heard before!!! youtube.com/watch?v=iDvyotUW2dM And tell me arent they worthy to be taken as part of the Great Multitude.
  21. We know it already now by Paul's writing that the taken one is here : 1 Thes 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
  22. Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife just as Christ is the head of the church, The church is the wife of Christ, The Bride is those who inherit the New Jerusalem, not only Jews. Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. ... And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God
  23. Mat 24:31 is about the rapture of the church, not the 2nd coming of Christ to judge people. Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
  24. Jesus will return to Armageddon war with the raptured saints after the marriage supper of the Lamb in heaven : Rev 19:9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. Enoch has prophesied about this 2nd coming of Christ : Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, 15 To execute judgment upon all,
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