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R. Hartono

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  1. 6 hours ago, Marathoner said:

    I view these things in the following manner.

    The sons of God (angels) who left their first estate --- the fathers of the giants of old --- are imprisoned in darkness, awaiting their judgment. 

    Spiritual powers of darkness (Ephesians 6), who themselves might be reckoned as mighty angels, are of the kind who delayed the angel sent to Daniel (Daniel 10). That power of darkness was called the Prince of Persia, who was overcome when the Prince of Israel, Michael, intervened. These dark princes rule over principalities of wickedness which, I believe, correspond to the civilizations and nations of man. 

    Unclean spirits, also known as demons, the spirits of slain giants who roam the "dry places" of the earth. 

    Was there a genetic anomaly that produced Giants ?

  2. Israel could be the only spearhead against this annihilation of Jews and Christians by other radical religion.

    The world has failed to understand that God has warned mankind of this bloody breeding terrorism which culminate in the 5th seal of Revelation 6.

    I urge you to understand this situation, if Israel fails, the ME will be given a nation for breeding global terrorism namely the naive 2 states solution.

     

     

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  3. 13 hours ago, Who me said:

    Where in the bible are we taught that spirits of the dead roam the earth?

    The bible teaches that the spirits of the dead are in an afterlife awaiting the day of judgement.

    So stop reading the book of Enoch and concentrate  on the bible.

    There are many haunted places that took many victims on earth, i saw that but you wont believe.

  4. On 12/6/2023 at 1:47 PM, Retrobyter said:

    Genesis 6:4 uses the word, and that word was translated into the KJV as "giants," but the word is a HEBREW word: Here's the Hebrew text of Genesis 6:4:

    הַנְּפִלִ֞ים הָי֣וּ בָאָרֶץ֮ בַּיָּמִ֣ים הָהֵם֒ וְגַ֣ם אַֽחֲרֵי־כֵ֗ן אֲשֶׁ֨ר יָבֹ֜אוּ בְּנֵ֤י הָֽאֱלֹהִים֙ אֶל־בְּנֹ֣ות הָֽאָדָ֔ם וְיָלְד֖וּ לָהֶ֑ם הֵ֧מָּה הַגִּבֹּרִ֛ים אֲשֶׁ֥ר מֵעֹולָ֖ם אַנְשֵׁ֥י הַשֵּֽׁם׃ פ

    This is transliterated as ...

    4 Hannfiliym haayuw baa'aarets bayyaamiym haaheem vgam 'achareey-keen 'asher yaaVo'uw bneey haa'elohiym 'el-bnowt haa'aadaam vyaalduw laahem heemmaah haggiboriym 'asher mee`owlaam 'ansheey hashsheem: P

    This is translated word-for-word into English as ...

    4 The-fellers were in/on-the-earth in-the-days those and-also after-that when came-in sons of-the-God to-daughters of-the-red-[man] and-bear-children to-them those-[were] the-mighty-ones who from-vanishing-point men those-of-name/of-renown: [end of thought]

    Strong gives us this definition for the first word in the verse:

    5303 nfiyliym (Nephilim) [plural of] נְפִיל (nef-eel'). Or nphil {nef-eel'}; from naphal; properly, a feller, i.e. A bully or tyrant:
    -- giant.

    A "feller" is one who "fells" trees for a living. It is an ACTIVE word, not PASSIVE!

    Why wud Bible mention Woodcutter as if something important before the flood that must be written ? Everybody can cut Wood.

    @AFlameOfFire

    @FJK

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  5. 3 hours ago, douggg said:

    The great falling away in 2Thessalonian2:3 will be Christians falling away from belief that Jesus is the messiah and switching to believing that the person who has just been anointed the King of Israel is the messiah instead.

    Will not happen until right after the Gog/Magog event.

    Isnt 2 Thes 2:3 says falling away first then the man of sin is revealed after it ?

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    HIDDEN UNDER GOD WINGS

    Nkiri muri iyi si / I'm still in this world
    Mfashe igihe mu ntambara / I spent time in spiritual battle
    Ntamahoro yuzuye / There was no complete peace in the world
    Nahabonera / I have experienced it
    Ikigeragezo kirenga / The test is not over
    Ikindi gihinguka / Another benefit
    Mu Minsi Nsigaranye / In this remaining days
    Mana uzandengere / God keep blessing us

    Mpisha mu mababa mwami satana atandiza / Hidden under God wings from the darkness
    Ninsha mu muriro wambiye ko ntazashya / I renew my spirit in God in the fire of test, I learn that i will not burn
    Ninsha mu mazi wambiye ko atazantembana / I'm fresh like in the water i learn that God will forgive if i repent
    nkomereza amaboko Ndwane iyi ntambara / I stretch my arms i'm fighting this spiritual battle


    Ni iki cyantandukanya / What can set us apart ?
    N'urukundo wankunze mwami / From the love of our God
    Mbese ni inzara / Is it hunger ?
    Cyangwa ni ugupfusha / Or is it our foolishness
    Ni ukugambanirwa / Is it people's betrayal
    Cyangwa se ni ugototezwa / Or may be bullying humiliation
    Ndacyambaye uyu umubiri / While I'm still in this body
    Mana uzandengere / God always bless

    Mpisha mu mababa mwami satana atandiza / Hidden under God wings from the darkness
    Ninsha mu muriro wambiye ko ntazashya / I renew my spirit in God in the fire of test, I learn that i will not burn
    Ninsha mu mazi wambiye ko atazantembana / I'm fresh like in the water i learn that God will forgive if i repent
    nkomereza amaboko Ndwane iyi ntambara / I stretch my arms i'm fighting this spiritual battle


    Reka kwifata / Stop holding back the spiritual progress
    Nk'umutware utabarutse / Like the unborn in the Spirit and water
    Kandi ucyambaye / And you are in the situation
    Umwambaro w'urugamba / you should be dressed in battle
    Uzi igihe umaze / You know how long you have been in this spiritual battle
    Ariko ntuzi igisigaye / But you dont know the rest
    Humura komera / Take a deep breathe
    Yesu azakurengera / Ask Jesus to protect you [till the end]

     

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  7. 24 minutes ago, Dave Watchman said:

    I wonder what the little markings mean beneath the Hebrew letters? Annotations?

    I found it tricky to select, or to copy and paste the Hebrew text. It gave me a spooky feeling. Like maybe I shouldn't be delving into this right now,

    I Googled for: "annotations beneath the Hebrew letters", and got:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_diacritics

    Were they added after Daniel's original writings, or did Daniel write it that way?

    One of the reasons I ask is that Moshe in Israel says the original Hebrew text reads as Seventy Seventy are determined.

    https://t.me/moshegroup/50371

    https://t.me/moshegroup/50372

    He's saying there's two sets of seventy weeks. He does a video on it and has a note about it on his Telegram channel. He sounds sure of it and mentions one Christian literal translation which also reads it as Seventy Seventy.

    "Seventy seventy were divided upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to close the transgression, and to seal up sins, and to expiate iniquity, and to bring in eternal justice, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the holy of holies.

    https://biblehub.com/slt/daniel/9.htm

    None of this is going to change what I currently think about the 70 weeks of Daniel 9.

    I also am very sure that there are two separate sets of 70 weeks, but not for the same reasons that Moshe is saying.

    Peaceful Sabbath.

    The Hebrew Bible says :

    https://biblehub.com/text/daniel/9-24.htm 

    https://biblehub.com/hebrew/shavuim_7620.htm

     

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