Amigo42

I don't agree with Mormon theology either, but I mean just as far as their character and principles, everyone is an individual.

...and I will say again that he hasn't earned the respect or the title to be called that. I refer to him as Trump. I served in the military, and he hasn't earned respect of that title. Just because one can run for President and win (*ahem, wikileaks, russia, ahem*) doesn't mean they are worthy of that title. He has clearly shown he is not worthy of that title. The guy is a fraud on some many levels and not a person Christians should look up to or honor even if he does give them what they want in conservative stances. He's cheated on all his wives, lies like nobody's business, curses like a sailor, accused by 20+ women of groping them, probably has shady stuff in his taxes, places kids in cages, makes fun of women.

He was the only republican to vote to convict Trump yesterday for one impeachment article.

I personally applaud Mitt Romney for standing up and having moral courage to do what his faith demanded. What does that say about all of the other republicans in the Senate who claim to have faith and yet didn't have the courage to do what they knew was right? He's already getting flak for his decision from the moral and cowardly degenerates of his own party. I think it's sad the state of the republican party. Before Trump was elected, they all rebuked Trump and wouldn't dare support him except for Jeff Sessions, and we see how that turned out. Romney reminds me of Jeff Flake who was also Mormon.

I believe this way also. So, what do you think happens to otherwise kind and decent people who were of other faiths and did not give their lives to Christ? I believe all sin will be destroyed in hell including sinners who did not accept Christ. However, I believe that the punishment will fit the crime, and as jesus said "those who committed offenses and did not know will be beaten with few stripes and those who committed offenses and knew to do better will be beaten with many stripes(Luke 12:48). In other words, there will be varying degrees of punishment in hell. Some people may only suffer for a few seconds where others may suffer for a few hours or days. However, in the end all sin and sinners will be destroyed completely in the lake of fire.

No problem Lady. You've contributed substantially to the overall discussion.

This is what I think Obama did.

Wow! Compared to Trump's Administration, the Obama admin were saints in terms of corruption. No leg to stand on for that argument brother.

Yep, just like all the media outlets, Trump's personal attorney, his own words, investigations, 20+ women who all shed light on the darkness of Trump's life and his corruption.

So, what will be the punishment for those who genuinely never heard the gospel or never had a chance to hear? Eternal flame? Eternal death? Second chance purgatory? I personally do not believe in literal eternal hell fire. I believe as the Bible says that hell will produce eternal destruction of sin and then hell itself will be cast into hell. No sin or sinners will be left in the universe.

It won't matter much in a 100 years if the Lord hasn't already returned at that point. In 1920, the population was 2 billion, and in a mere 100 years it has almost tripled.

I believe that climate change and the explosion of human population growth are all just signs leading to the end. By the year 2050, there will 11 billion people in the world. Imagine that. The climate is being destroyed, and in the end it will all come to nothing. Does that mean that we should not try to clean up and heal the environment? No, we should still care, but we should do so with an understanding that in the end all these point to the end of humanity and Christ's return to this earth.

I'm just here listening to Jay Sekulow speak, and it's just annoying how he's speaking for a President who he, all the Republicans, and the entire world know is scoundrel and liar. He should be standing for the Lord and not a moral degenerate.

Do you all think people who were good people in life and lived up the knowledge of God they had will be heaven even if they didn't explicitly accept Jesus? For example, Muslims, Hindus, etc. Of course, I believe that all people must have Jesus, but others believe that God will give some sort of second chance.

lol, very true

Here's a great link. However, for those just off the top of my head 1. Jim Comey was a liar, leaker. Truth-No one really believes Trump over 20 year FBI veteran who was also appointed FBI director. 2.The Trump inauguration crowd size was the largest in history. Truth-alternative facts anyone? 3.Trump said he didn't know the women who he paid off to keep their stories covered up. Truth-clear 4.Trump said he didn't know Lev Parnas. Truth-pretty clear he knew him or was at least aware of his dealings for GOP https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/12/president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-claims-over-days/

lol, I'll admit I do like watching CNN and MSNBC. I find that Fox news to be too extreme, although Chris Wallace is legit. However, my thoughts are formulated number one as a Christian who puts God number 1, and I simply can't fathom how any God fearing Christian could be a vocal supporter of Trump. I think it's very sad that so many Christians in the Trump era have forgotten where their true loyalties lie. I mean, let's be honest. Obama and Clinton have stronger faith in Jesus than Trump. I think that Obama was an honorably President and behaved himself as such. Do I support everything he did? No, I don't, but he was honorable. He didn't cheat on his wife, grope women, etc.

Doesn't seem like an answer. So, if he were alive today and running as President in America would you vote under the previous conditions. Bernie would be bounds above Trump in quality and substance, and I'm sure he wouldn't be putting children in cages, groping 20+ women, cursing like sailors, making fun of other grown adults, lie 12,000+ times, etc.

So, if Stalin decided to pick conservative justices to the Supreme Court and support conservative purposes, would you vote for him?

Does any have less respect or a lesser view of people like Jay Sekulow, Sarah Sanders, etc. for how they appear to be a mouthpiece for Trump? I know that Sekulow loves the Lord and has done a lot for Him, and I believe the same about Sanders. However, both of them have unknowingly or used plausible deniability to essentially lie for Trump or at least repeat his lies. How can a Christian be a mouthpiece for a proven liar and moral degenerate such as Trump? I know Sarah Sander had to have known she lied multiple times. At the least she repeated lies that I'm sure she knew full well they were. Maybe she reasoned in herself that it's Trump who is lying and not her.

Does any have less respect or a lesser view of people like Jay Sekulow, Sarah Sanders, etc. for how they appear to be a mouthpiece for Trump? I know that Sekulow loves the Lord and has done a lot for Him, and I believe the same about Sanders. However, both of them have unknowingly or used plausible deniability to essentially lie for Trump or at least repeat his lies. How can a Christian be a mouthpiece for a proven liar and moral degenerate such as Trump? I know Sarah Sander had to have known she lied multiple times. At the least she repeated lies that I'm sure she knew full well they were. Maybe she reasoned in herself that it's Trump who is lying and not her.

That's great that sports helped you while in Chicago. I'm sure it is a blessing to a lot of people. I just see so many people make idols of sports, and really when we think about it, people are paying homage to their idols when they wear sports jerseys, etc. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with wearing jerseys, I just think some people place too much energies into those things.

What do you guys think? Especially at this time of year and even beyond it seems like Americans focus and talk so much about sports. It's almost sickening to hear these analysts on ESPN talk about sports like they're dissecting a lung or something. I mean it just SPORTS!!! Contrary to common thinking, it ain't life. Sorry, I just get so tired of people putting so much energies into these stupid stuff of this life.