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The very Word of God itself is Eternal. Should every Bible on Earth be destroyed, God's Holy Word still remains the same and forever. That also makes the Word of God true in every sense of the meaning of what truth is. And we know within the Word of God, it deals with humanity and its Soul. It deals with the Soul because itself is also Eternal. Salvation is a condition that solely applies to the Eternal Soul. Since the Soul is Eternal, and Salvation is a condition of the Soul, that makes Salvation Eternal by proxy. And going back to the meaning of God's Holy Word being Eternal, once we accept Christ as Lord and Savior, our Eternal Soul becomes a condition which can now be defined as Eternal Salvation. From this point into the process of being Eternally Saved, we have God's Promises that we find from God's Holy Word that is Eternal. And God's Promise is that He will never release us from the condition of our Soul being aligned with Eternal Salvation. It literally is the best 100% Guarantee we will ever be given in terms of God's Word and His Promise in connection to our Eternal Soul.
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Theoretically, Jews since 1948 have been relocating back to their homeland. Roughly 3 to 4 million Jews have relocated back to their homeland since 1948. I think the proper conclusion is that in 1948, God, restored Israel as a recognized State and Nation. Since that restoration, over 3 million plus Jews have relocated back to their homeland. But the fact of the matter is, that it was God Almighty Himself, who restored Israel in 1948. After that, Israel's population has increased every year since by relocating Jews. How that is to be viewed is indeed debatable.
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Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
AandW_Rootbeer replied to one.opinion's topic in Science and Faith
I don't desire to argue with you concerning this matter, I am just saying multiple sources claim this Bible has very little RCC influence. I just wanted to know why you present an argument that opposes them is all. I have never even heard of this Bible we're discussing. I just thought I would look it up based upon your original OP to the other poster. And when your views and the multiple views from my search engine did not align, I wanted to bring it to your attention. If this Bible is/or not influenced by the RC really doesn't matter to me. I most likely will never read that Bible to begin with. -
Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
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Oh, I see where you're getting this from, WIKI, that explains it all. That is about as credible of a resource as Charlie Manson's versions of his own murders. -
The Wrath of God is still to come. None of those signs have yet to take place followed by the Second Coming. Only a portion of like Daniel, Matthew 24 have taken place. That leaves the rest of Daniel, like Chapter 7, leaves the other portions of Matthew 24, still leaves Thessalonians where Paul tells us WE ((((REMAIN)))) until the Coming of the Lord (Second Coming), still leaves all of Revelations 16 to take place, Armageddon still has to happen, Great White throne Judgement has yet to take place. Many things are still on the table of Prophecy left to fulfill.
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The 3rd Temple has no bearing on future prophecy.
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In 67-73 A.D.Jerusalem was trodden down by the Gentiles. Daniel's Aod was fulfilled with the End of Daily Sacrifice. In 1948 till current day, the End of the Gentile Reign in Jerusalem has clearly ran its course. Israel is an Independent Nation with an Air force literally second to none. And, there are more Jews coming to Christ in the form of Messianic Jews than at any other point in history. Now, we are waiting for the final Acts of God's Wrath, God's gathering of those who still REMAIN, Armageddon, 1,000 year physical kingdom set up spoken in Daniel 7 after the Beast is killed by God, Satan loosed for a short period of time, Great White Throne Judgement where the Books are Read, Eternity.
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Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
AandW_Rootbeer replied to one.opinion's topic in Science and Faith
You indeed did give me your opinion why you believe it was influenced by the RCC, that is true. But I looked up to see where the connection to RCC and the New Jerusalem Bible was most prevalent at, and multiple sources claim there was hardly any influence from the RCC involved. So, I either accept your word for it or theirs. But I do agree the term [Mother representing God] is very Catholic in meaning. -
Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
AandW_Rootbeer replied to one.opinion's topic in Science and Faith
We are discussing your accusation of the New Jerusalem Bible being heavily influenced by the RCC. Evidence, however, suggests you are incorrect. I could care less about other RCC influenced documents. I only responded to your ACCUSATION! -
Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
AandW_Rootbeer replied to one.opinion's topic in Science and Faith
^ Doesn't mean I am advocating for the New Jerusalem Bible. I am merely reporting that supposedly that Bible has Little to No influence by and from the RCC. -
Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
AandW_Rootbeer replied to one.opinion's topic in Science and Faith
What is the Jerusalem Bible (JB)? | GotQuestions.org https://www.gotquestions.org › ... › Bible › Bible versions Overall, the Jerusalem Bible and the New Jerusalem Bible are good English translations of the Bible. Very little Roman Catholic "influence" is seen in the New Jerusalem Bible -
Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
AandW_Rootbeer replied to one.opinion's topic in Science and Faith
Science can't prove a thing if they weren't there to personally observe it! You mean they have hypothesized, which is not either true or false, it's an opinion. -
Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
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We both can agree that God knew He would create Adam. And as we know, God created Adam to live in a 24 hour time frame including Morning and Evening. God also knew that what other things He created would be in existence with Adam, who God designed to be existing within a 24 hour day period. So why would God create everything in different time periods of existence and then toss Adam into this mixture and force everything else to exist within a 24 hour time period? The answer is simple. God would do no such thing. God would have created everything to exist in the same time frame as Adam. So even though we have no reference of 24 hours here, we do know once Adam existed all of humanity existed by the same day period of 24 hours, We can therefore conclude that all of creation was also done in a 24 hour day period because all of creation, including Adam, had to co-exist. And the only way everything could co-exist together, was to be created based upon the same day time frame. Which as we know is a 24 hour period that includes Morning and Evening. -
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Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
AandW_Rootbeer replied to one.opinion's topic in Science and Faith
The biggest problem is that people forget that the Word of God is sacrosanct. And then they start adding into areas they believe can be viewed and interpreted as less important and valuable. -
Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
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According to the Hebrew, Noah would have only held 32 animals on the Ark. Clearly the dinosaur theory about being on the Ark is a complete myth, because (if) dinosaurs existed in Noah's day, they would most certainly be labelled as unclean. 1And the Lord said to Noah, "Come into the ark, you and all your household, for it is you that I have seen as a righteous man before Me in this generation. אוַיֹּ֤אמֶר יְהֹוָה֙ לְנֹ֔חַ בֹּֽא־אַתָּ֥ה וְכָל־בֵּֽיתְךָ֖ אֶל־הַתֵּבָ֑ה כִּי־אֹֽתְךָ֥ רָאִ֛יתִי צַדִּ֥יק לְפָנַ֖י בַּדּ֥וֹר הַזֶּֽה: 2Of all the clean animals you shall take for yourself seven pairs, a male and its mate, and of the animals that are not clean, two, a male and its mate. במִכֹּ֣ל | הַבְּהֵמָ֣ה הַטְּהוֹרָ֗ה תִּקַּח־לְךָ֛ שִׁבְעָ֥ה שִׁבְעָ֖ה אִ֣ישׁ וְאִשְׁתּ֑וֹ וּמִן־הַבְּהֵמָ֡ה אֲ֠שֶׁ֠ר לֹ֣א טְהֹרָ֥ה הִ֛וא שְׁנַ֖יִם אִ֥ישׁ וְאִשְׁתּֽוֹ: 3Also, of the fowl of the heavens, seven pairs, male and female, to keep seed alive on the face of the earth. גגַּ֣ם מֵע֧וֹף הַשָּׁמַ֛יִם שִׁבְעָ֥ה שִׁבְעָ֖ה זָכָ֣ר וּנְקֵבָ֑ה לְחַיּ֥וֹת זֶ֖רַע עַל־פְּנֵ֥י כָל־הָאָֽרֶץ: -
Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
AandW_Rootbeer replied to one.opinion's topic in Science and Faith
It's interesting, because the Hebrew Version shows that Noah had to choose 7 pairs of clean beasts and 2 pairs of unclean beasts and do the same for the fowl. That means a lot of Species would have been wiped out during the Flood. So when we think of dinosaurs on the Ark, that is a true misconception to a horrible KJV Translation. Here's the Hebrew that explains this better. 1And the Lord said to Noah, "Come into the ark, you and all your household, for it is you that I have seen as a righteous man before Me in this generation. אוַיֹּ֤אמֶר יְהֹוָה֙ לְנֹ֔חַ בֹּֽא־אַתָּ֥ה וְכָל־בֵּֽיתְךָ֖ אֶל־הַתֵּבָ֑ה כִּי־אֹֽתְךָ֥ רָאִ֛יתִי צַדִּ֥יק לְפָנַ֖י בַּדּ֥וֹר הַזֶּֽה: 2Of all the clean animals you shall take for yourself seven pairs, a male and its mate, and of the animals that are not clean, two, a male and its mate. במִכֹּ֣ל | הַבְּהֵמָ֣ה הַטְּהוֹרָ֗ה תִּקַּח־לְךָ֛ שִׁבְעָ֥ה שִׁבְעָ֖ה אִ֣ישׁ וְאִשְׁתּ֑וֹ וּמִן־הַבְּהֵמָ֡ה אֲ֠שֶׁ֠ר לֹ֣א טְהֹרָ֥ה הִ֛וא שְׁנַ֖יִם אִ֥ישׁ וְאִשְׁתּֽוֹ: 3Also, of the fowl of the heavens, seven pairs, male and female, to keep seed alive on the face of the earth. גגַּ֣ם מֵע֧וֹף הַשָּׁמַ֛יִם שִׁבְעָ֥ה שִׁבְעָ֖ה זָכָ֣ר וּנְקֵבָ֑ה לְחַיּ֥וֹת זֶ֖רַע עַל־פְּנֵ֥י כָל־הָאָֽרֶץ: Also something else I wanted to ask pertaining to your original Op. Most people who Believe in God take God's Word at face-value and then anything else they will compare God's Word to. You on the other hand, have taken the truths of man through the study of others and yourself and then tried to apply to the context of God's Word. Unfortunately, if we are to First to believe God's Word and everything else secondly, we have no issue understanding Sunrise to Sunset is clearly a 24 hour period. But if we are to accept the truth of man's knowledge and research, we will have no issue contorting God's Word and applying terms like Narrative to it. Now obviously, this is nowhere to being a Salvation Issue. But it does set precedent that if one can contort the Word of God from the very Beginning of God's Word, they can contort God's Word all throughout till the End of God's Word. Accepting God's Word at Face-Value is the sole key to a life preserved by the Word of God. But being able to Contort God's Word at "Will," enables one to question God any time there is a disagreement with God's Word. And that can be Salvation Issue Problematic! -
Agreed! Even the term White, for Caucasian peoples, who are more peach and lighter brown is clearly an incorrect term. White technically only applies to anyone Albino.
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Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
AandW_Rootbeer replied to one.opinion's topic in Science and Faith
It would have been no different than Noah loading male/female of every land creature aboard the Ark. -
Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
AandW_Rootbeer replied to one.opinion's topic in Science and Faith
According to the rivers listed running to and from and nearby the Garden, we know this area is modern day Africa. And let's even say the landmass was not broken up into Continents yet. That's a massive landmass full of animals that were brought to Adam to be named. One would also think, if humans existed before Adam, they would have been brought before Adam to also be named. The Bible states (all) creatures were brought before Adam. If an evolved man existed before Adam, one would have to believe that Adam would have recognized them as being like himself. But Adam states, nothing brought before him was bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh. This statement was only made after Eve was created. So taking the entire picture and putting the pieces together, if humans or some form of evolved humans were in existence, Adam would have met them and named them. So if Adam and Eve were a special creation or not, Adam is clear that every creature brought before him was not like him until Woman was created. I just don't understand how you're able to squeeze evolved man into this picture. Because theoretically speaking, evolved man would look the same as created man and Adam did not recognize anything that was similar to himself. -
Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
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But this Version does make a distinct clarification the others do not. Let's examine Chapter Two. 19And the Lord God formed from the earth every beast of the field and every fowl of the heavens, and He brought [it] to man to see what he would call it, and whatever the man called each living thing, that was its name. יטוַיִּ֩צֶר֩ יְהֹוָ֨ה אֱלֹהִ֜ים מִן־הָֽאֲדָמָ֗ה כָּל־חַיַּ֤ת הַשָּׂדֶה֙ וְאֵת֙ כָּל־ע֣וֹף הַשָּׁמַ֔יִם וַיָּבֵא֙ אֶל־הָ֣אָדָ֔ם לִרְא֖וֹת מַה־יִּקְרָא־ל֑וֹ וְכֹל֩ אֲשֶׁ֨ר יִקְרָא־ל֧וֹ הָֽאָדָ֛ם נֶ֥פֶשׁ חַיָּ֖ה ה֥וּא שְׁמֽוֹ: 20And man named all the cattle and the fowl of the heavens and all the beasts of the field, but for man, he did not find a helpmate opposite him. כוַיִּקְרָ֨א הָֽאָדָ֜ם שֵׁמ֗וֹת לְכָל־הַבְּהֵמָה֙ וּלְע֣וֹף הַשָּׁמַ֔יִם וּלְכֹ֖ל חַיַּ֣ת הַשָּׂדֶ֑ה וּלְאָדָ֕ם לֹֽא־מָצָ֥א עֵ֖זֶר כְּנֶגְדּֽוֹ: 21And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon man, and he slept, and He took one of his sides, and He closed the flesh in its place. כאוַיַּפֵּל֩ יְהֹוָ֨ה אֱלֹהִ֧ים | תַּרְדֵּמָ֛ה עַל־הָֽאָדָ֖ם וַיִּישָׁ֑ן וַיִּקַּ֗ח אַחַת֙ מִצַּלְעֹתָ֔יו וַיִּסְגֹּ֥ר בָּשָׂ֖ר תַּחְתֶּֽנָּה: 22And the Lord God built the side that He had taken from man into a woman, and He brought her to man. כבוַיִּ֩בֶן֩ יְהֹוָ֨ה אֱלֹהִ֧ים | אֶת־הַצֵּלָ֛ע אֲשֶׁר־לָקַ֥ח מִן־הָֽאָדָ֖ם לְאִשָּׁ֑ה וַיְבִאֶ֖הָ אֶל־הָֽאָדָֽם: 23And man said, "This time, it is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh. This one shall be called ishah (woman) because this one was taken from ish (man)." Notice that God brings all of the animals to Man. Notice that man examines them and names them. But notice what Verse 23 states. Man understands that all animals before him are not a part of him nor are they related to him or are they of the same bone as him. Theoretically speaking here, this would include the Ape families and possible stages of Evolved Apes and man still states they are not Bone of my Bone nor Flesh of my Flesh. In Evolution, Man would not be able to make this claim. And also notice about Verse 23, God does not correct Man because Man is Right in his assessment between the Species. And Verse 23 makes another clear distinction. Man called Woman Ishah. Why does this matter? Because if Man had evolved to this point, Ishah (Woman) would have already existed. Man cannot reproduce with other Men. Man can only reproduce with Ishah (woman). So Verse 23 is telling us Woman does not exist before Man. And the only way Man could be a state of Evolution, is through reproduction of a woman. So this Version clarifies Evolution is not existence in God's Creation! כגוַיֹּ֘אמֶר֘ הָֽאָדָם֒ זֹ֣את הַפַּ֗עַם עֶ֚צֶם מֵֽעֲצָמַ֔י וּבָשָׂ֖ר מִבְּשָׂרִ֑י לְזֹאת֙ יִקָּרֵ֣א אִשָּׁ֔ה כִּ֥י מֵאִ֖ישׁ -
Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
AandW_Rootbeer replied to one.opinion's topic in Science and Faith
1Now the heavens and the earth were completed and all their host. אוַיְכֻלּ֛וּ הַשָּׁמַ֥יִם וְהָאָ֖רֶץ וְכָל־צְבָאָֽם: 2And God completed on the seventh day His work that He did, and He abstained on the seventh day from all His work that He did. בוַיְכַ֤ל אֱלֹהִים֙ בַּיּ֣וֹם הַשְּׁבִיעִ֔י מְלַאכְתּ֖וֹ אֲשֶׁ֣ר עָשָׂ֑ה וַיִּשְׁבֹּת֙ בַּיּ֣וֹם הַשְּׁבִיעִ֔י מִכָּל־מְלַאכְתּ֖וֹ אֲשֶׁ֥ר עָשָֽׂה: 3And God blessed the seventh day and He hallowed it, for thereon He abstained from all His work that God created to do. גוַיְבָ֤רֶךְ אֱלֹהִים֙ אֶת־י֣וֹם הַשְּׁבִיעִ֔י וַיְקַדֵּ֖שׁ אֹת֑וֹ כִּ֣י ב֤וֹ שָׁבַת֙ מִכָּל־מְלַאכְתּ֔וֹ אֲשֶׁר־בָּרָ֥א אֱלֹהִ֖ים לַֽעֲשֽׂוֹת: 4These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created, on the day that the Lord God made earth and heaven. דאֵ֣לֶּה תֽוֹלְד֧וֹת הַשָּׁמַ֛יִם וְהָאָ֖רֶץ בְּהִ֣בָּֽרְאָ֑ם בְּי֗וֹם עֲשׂ֛וֹת יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהִ֖ים אֶ֥רֶץ וְשָׁמָֽיִם: 5Now no tree of the field was yet on the earth, neither did any herb of the field yet grow, because the Lord God had not brought rain upon the earth, and there was no man to work the soil. הוְכֹ֣ל | שִׂ֣יחַ הַשָּׂדֶ֗ה טֶ֚רֶם יִֽהְיֶ֣ה בָאָ֔רֶץ וְכָל־עֵ֥שֶׂב הַשָּׂדֶ֖ה טֶ֣רֶם יִצְמָ֑ח כִּי֩ לֹ֨א הִמְטִ֜יר יְהֹוָ֤ה אֱלֹהִים֙ עַל־הָאָ֔רֶץ וְאָדָ֣ם אַ֔יִן לַֽעֲבֹ֖ד אֶת־הָֽאֲדָמָֽה: 6And a mist ascended from the earth and watered the entire surface of the ground. ווְאֵ֖ד יַֽעֲלֶ֣ה מִן־הָאָ֑רֶץ וְהִשְׁקָ֖ה אֶת־כָּל־פְּנֵ֥י הָֽאֲדָמָֽה: 7And the Lord God formed man of dust from the ground, and He breathed into his nostrils the soul of life, and man became a living soul. זוַיִּ֩יצֶר֩ יְהֹוָ֨ה אֱלֹהִ֜ים אֶת־הָֽאָדָ֗ם עָפָר֙ מִן־הָ֣אֲדָמָ֔ה וַיִּפַּ֥ח בְּאַפָּ֖יו נִשְׁמַ֣ת חַיִּ֑ים וַיְהִ֥י הָֽאָדָ֖ם לְנֶ֥פֶשׁ חַיָּֽה: 8And the Lord God planted a garden in Eden from the east, and He placed there the man whom He had formed. חוַיִּטַּ֞ע יְהֹוָ֧ה אֱלֹהִ֛ים גַּן־בְּעֵ֖דֶן מִקֶּ֑דֶם וַיָּ֣שֶׂם שָׁ֔ם אֶת־הָֽאָדָ֖ם אֲשֶׁ֥ר יָצָֽר: 9And the Lord God caused to sprout from the ground every tree pleasant to see and good to eat, and the Tree of Life in the midst of the garden, and the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil. טוַיַּצְמַ֞ח יְהֹוָ֤ה אֱלֹהִים֙ מִן־הָ֣אֲדָמָ֔ה כָּל־עֵ֛ץ נֶחְמָ֥ד לְמַרְאֶ֖ה וְט֣וֹב לְמַֽאֲכָ֑ל וְעֵ֤ץ הַֽחַיִּים֙ בְּת֣וֹךְ הַגָּ֔ן וְעֵ֕ץ הַדַּ֖עַת ט֥וֹב וָרָֽע: 10And a river flowed out of Eden to water the garden, and from there it separated and became four heads. יוְנָהָר֙ יֹצֵ֣א מֵעֵ֔דֶן לְהַשְׁק֖וֹת אֶת־הַגָּ֑ן וּמִשָּׁם֙ יִפָּרֵ֔ד וְהָיָ֖ה לְאַרְבָּעָ֥ה רָאשִֽׁים: 11The name of one is Pishon; that is the one that encompasses all the land of Havilah, where there is gold. יאשֵׁ֥ם הָֽאֶחָ֖ד פִּישׁ֑וֹן ה֣וּא הַסֹּבֵ֗ב אֵ֚ת כָּל־אֶ֣רֶץ הַֽחֲוִילָ֔ה אֲשֶׁר־שָׁ֖ם הַזָּהָֽב: 12And the gold of that land is good; there is the crystal and the onyx stone. יבוּֽזֲהַ֛ב הָאָ֥רֶץ הַהִ֖וא ט֑וֹב שָׁ֥ם הַבְּדֹ֖לַח וְאֶ֥בֶן הַשֹּֽׁהַם: 13And the name of the second river is Gihon; that is the one that encompasses all the land of Cush. יגוְשֵֽׁם־הַנָּהָ֥ר הַשֵּׁנִ֖י גִּיח֑וֹן ה֣וּא הַסּוֹבֵ֔ב אֵ֖ת כָּל־אֶ֥רֶץ כּֽוּשׁ: 14And the name of the third river is Tigris; that is the one that flows to the east of Assyria, and the fourth river that is the Euphrates. ידוְשֵֽׁם־הַנָּהָ֤ר הַשְּׁלִישִׁי֙ חִדֶּ֔קֶל ה֥וּא הַֽהֹלֵ֖ךְ קִדְמַ֣ת אַשּׁ֑וּר וְהַנָּהָ֥ר הָֽרְבִיעִ֖י ה֥וּא פְרָֽת: 15Now the Lord God took the man, and He placed him in the Garden of Eden to work it and to guard it. טווַיִּקַּ֛ח יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהִ֖ים אֶת־הָֽאָדָ֑ם וַיַּנִּחֵ֣הוּ בְגַן־עֵ֔דֶן לְעָבְדָ֖הּ וּלְשָׁמְרָֽהּ: 16And the Lord God commanded man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat. טזוַיְצַו֙ יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹהִ֔ים עַל־הָֽאָדָ֖ם לֵאמֹ֑ר מִכֹּ֥ל עֵֽץ־הַגָּ֖ן אָכֹ֥ל תֹּאכֵֽל: 17But of the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat of it, for on the day that you eat thereof, you shall surely die." יזוּמֵעֵ֗ץ הַדַּ֨עַת֙ ט֣וֹב וָרָ֔ע לֹ֥א תֹאכַ֖ל מִמֶּ֑נּוּ כִּ֗י בְּי֛וֹם אֲכָלְךָ֥ מִמֶּ֖נּוּ מ֥וֹת תָּמֽוּת: 18And the Lord God said, "It is not good that man is alone; I shall make him a helpmate opposite him." יחוַיֹּ֨אמֶר֙ יְהֹוָ֣ה אֱלֹהִ֔ים לֹא־ט֛וֹב הֱי֥וֹת הָֽאָדָ֖ם לְבַדּ֑וֹ אֶֽעֱשֶׂה־לּ֥וֹ עֵ֖זֶר כְּנֶגְדּֽוֹ: 19And the Lord God formed from the earth every beast of the field and every fowl of the heavens, and He brought [it] to man to see what he would call it, and whatever the man called each living thing, that was its name. יטוַיִּ֩צֶר֩ יְהֹוָ֨ה אֱלֹהִ֜ים מִן־הָֽאֲדָמָ֗ה כָּל־חַיַּ֤ת הַשָּׂדֶה֙ וְאֵת֙ כָּל־ע֣וֹף הַשָּׁמַ֔יִם וַיָּבֵא֙ אֶל־הָ֣אָדָ֔ם לִרְא֖וֹת מַה־יִּקְרָא־ל֑וֹ וְכֹל֩ אֲשֶׁ֨ר יִקְרָא־ל֧וֹ הָֽאָדָ֛ם נֶ֥פֶשׁ חַיָּ֖ה ה֥וּא שְׁמֽוֹ: 20And man named all the cattle and the fowl of the heavens and all the beasts of the field, but for man, he did not find a helpmate opposite him. כוַיִּקְרָ֨א הָֽאָדָ֜ם שֵׁמ֗וֹת לְכָל־הַבְּהֵמָה֙ וּלְע֣וֹף הַשָּׁמַ֔יִם וּלְכֹ֖ל חַיַּ֣ת הַשָּׂדֶ֑ה וּלְאָדָ֕ם לֹֽא־מָצָ֥א עֵ֖זֶר כְּנֶגְדּֽוֹ: 21And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon man, and he slept, and He took one of his sides, and He closed the flesh in its place. כאוַיַּפֵּל֩ יְהֹוָ֨ה אֱלֹהִ֧ים | תַּרְדֵּמָ֛ה עַל־הָֽאָדָ֖ם וַיִּישָׁ֑ן וַיִּקַּ֗ח אַחַת֙ מִצַּלְעֹתָ֔יו וַיִּסְגֹּ֥ר בָּשָׂ֖ר תַּחְתֶּֽנָּה: 22And the Lord God built the side that He had taken from man into a woman, and He brought her to man. כבוַיִּ֩בֶן֩ יְהֹוָ֨ה אֱלֹהִ֧ים | אֶת־הַצֵּלָ֛ע אֲשֶׁר־לָקַ֥ח מִן־הָֽאָדָ֖ם לְאִשָּׁ֑ה וַיְבִאֶ֖הָ אֶל־הָֽאָדָֽם: 23And man said, "This time, it is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh. This one shall be called ishah (woman) because this one was taken from ish (man)." כגוַיֹּ֘אמֶר֘ הָֽאָדָם֒ זֹ֣את הַפַּ֗עַם עֶ֚צֶם מֵֽעֲצָמַ֔י וּבָשָׂ֖ר מִבְּשָׂרִ֑י לְזֹאת֙ יִקָּרֵ֣א אִשָּׁ֔ה כִּ֥י מֵאִ֖ישׁ לֻֽקֳחָה־זֹּֽאת: 24Therefore, a man shall leave his father and his mother, and cleave to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. כדעַל־כֵּן֙ יַֽעֲזָב־אִ֔ישׁ אֶת־אָבִ֖יו וְאֶת־אִמּ֑וֹ וְדָבַ֣ק בְּאִשְׁתּ֔וֹ וְהָי֖וּ לְבָשָׂ֥ר אֶחָֽד: 25Now they were both naked, the man and his wife, but they were not ashamed. כהוַיִּֽהְי֤וּ שְׁנֵיהֶם֙ עֲרוּמִּ֔ים הָֽאָדָ֖ם וְאִשְׁתּ֑וֹ וְלֹ֖א יִתְבּשָֽׁשׁוּ: -
Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
AandW_Rootbeer replied to one.opinion's topic in Science and Faith
1In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth. אבְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ: 2Now the earth was astonishingly empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of God was hovering over the face of the water. בוְהָאָ֗רֶץ הָֽיְתָ֥ה תֹ֨הוּ֙ וָבֹ֔הוּ וְח֖שֶׁךְ עַל־פְּנֵ֣י תְה֑וֹם וְר֣וּחַ אֱלֹהִ֔ים מְרַחֶ֖פֶת עַל־פְּנֵ֥י הַמָּֽיִם: 3And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. גוַיֹּ֥אמֶר אֱלֹהִ֖ים יְהִי־א֑וֹר וַֽיְהִי־אֽוֹר: 4And God saw the light that it was good, and God separated between the light and between the darkness. דוַיַּ֧רְא אֱלֹהִ֛ים אֶת־הָא֖וֹר כִּי־ט֑וֹב וַיַּבְדֵּ֣ל אֱלֹהִ֔ים בֵּ֥ין הָא֖וֹר וּבֵ֥ין הַחֽשֶׁךְ: 5And God called the light day, and the darkness He called night, and it was evening and it was morning, one day. הוַיִּקְרָ֨א אֱלֹהִ֤ים | לָאוֹר֙ י֔וֹם וְלַח֖שֶׁךְ קָ֣רָא לָ֑יְלָה וַֽיְהִי־עֶ֥רֶב וַֽיְהִי־בֹ֖קֶר י֥וֹם אֶחָֽד: 6And God said, "Let there be an expanse in the midst of the water, and let it be a separation between water and water." ווַיֹּ֣אמֶר אֱלֹהִ֔ים יְהִ֥י רָקִ֖יעַ בְּת֣וֹךְ הַמָּ֑יִם וִיהִ֣י מַבְדִּ֔יל בֵּ֥ין מַ֖יִם לָמָֽיִם: 7And God made the expanse and it separated between the water that was below the expanse and the water that was above the expanse, and it was so. זוַיַּ֣עַשׂ אֱלֹהִים֘ אֶת־הָֽרָקִיעַ֒ וַיַּבְדֵּ֗ל בֵּ֤ין הַמַּ֨יִם֙ אֲשֶׁר֙ מִתַּ֣חַת לָֽרָקִ֔יעַ וּבֵ֣ין הַמַּ֔יִם אֲשֶׁ֖ר מֵעַ֣ל לָֽרָקִ֑יעַ וַֽיְהִי־כֵֽן: 8And God called the expanse Heaven, and it was evening, and it was morning, a second day. חוַיִּקְרָ֧א אֱלֹהִ֛ים לָֽרָקִ֖יעַ שָׁמָ֑יִם וַֽיְהִי־עֶ֥רֶב וַֽיְהִי־בֹ֖קֶר י֥וֹם שֵׁנִֽי: 9And God said, "Let the water that is beneath the heavens gather into one place, and let the dry land appear," and it was so. טוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אֱלֹהִ֗ים יִקָּו֨וּ הַמַּ֜יִם מִתַּ֤חַת הַשָּׁמַ֨יִם֙ אֶל־מָק֣וֹם אֶחָ֔ד וְתֵֽרָאֶ֖ה הַיַּבָּשָׁ֑ה וַֽיְהִי־כֵֽן: 10And God called the dry land earth, and the gathering of the waters He called seas, and God saw that it was good. יוַיִּקְרָ֨א אֱלֹהִ֤ים | לַיַּבָּשָׁה֙ אֶ֔רֶץ וּלְמִקְוֵ֥ה הַמַּ֖יִם קָרָ֣א יַמִּ֑ים וַיַּ֥רְא אֱלֹהִ֖ים כִּי־טֽוֹב: 11And God said, "Let the earth sprout vegetation, seed yielding herbs and fruit trees producing fruit according to its kind in which its seed is found, on the earth," and it was so. יאוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אֱלֹהִ֗ים תַּדְשֵׁ֤א הָאָ֨רֶץ֙ דֶּ֗שֶׁא עֵ֚שֶׂב מַזְרִ֣יעַ זֶ֔רַע עֵ֣ץ פְּרִ֞י עֹ֤שֶׂה פְּרִי֙ לְמִינ֔וֹ אֲשֶׁ֥ר זַרְעוֹ־ב֖וֹ עַל־הָאָ֑רֶץ וַֽיְהִי־כֵֽן: 12And the earth gave forth vegetation, seed yielding herbs according to its kind, and trees producing fruit, in which its seed is found, according to its kind, and God saw that it was good. יבוַתּוֹצֵ֨א הָאָ֜רֶץ דֶּשֶׁא עֵ֣שֶׂב מַזְרִ֤יעַ זֶ֨רַע֙ לְמִינֵ֔הוּ וְעֵ֧ץ עֹֽשֶׂה־פְּרִ֛י אֲשֶׁ֥ר זַרְעוֹ־ב֖וֹ לְמִינֵ֑הוּ וַיַּ֥רְא אֱלֹהִ֖ים כִּי־טֽוֹב: 13And it was evening, and it was morning, a third day. יגוַֽיְהִי־עֶ֥רֶב וַֽיְהִי־בֹ֖קֶר י֥וֹם שְׁלִישִֽׁי: 14And God said, "Let there be luminaries in the expanse of the heavens, to separate between the day and between the night, and they shall be for signs and for appointed seasons and for days and years. ידוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אֱלֹהִ֗ים יְהִ֤י מְאֹרֹת֙ בִּרְקִ֣יעַ הַשָּׁמַ֔יִם לְהַבְדִּ֕יל בֵּ֥ין הַיּ֖וֹם וּבֵ֣ין הַלָּ֑יְלָה וְהָי֤וּ לְאֹתֹת֙ וּלְמ֣וֹעֲדִ֔ים וּלְיָמִ֖ים וְשָׁנִֽים: 15And they shall be for luminaries in the expanse of the heavens to shed light upon the earth." And it was so. טווְהָי֤וּ לִמְאוֹרֹת֙ בִּרְקִ֣יעַ הַשָּׁמַ֔יִם לְהָאִ֖יר עַל־הָאָ֑רֶץ וַֽיְהִי־כֵֽן: 16And God made the two great luminaries: the great luminary to rule the day and the lesser luminary to rule the night, and the stars. טזוַיַּ֣עַשׂ אֱלֹהִ֔ים אֶת־שְׁנֵ֥י הַמְּאֹרֹ֖ת הַגְּדֹלִ֑ים אֶת־הַמָּא֤וֹר הַגָּדֹל֙ לְמֶמְשֶׁ֣לֶת הַיּ֔וֹם וְאֶת־הַמָּא֤וֹר הַקָּטֹן֙ לְמֶמְשֶׁ֣לֶת הַלַּ֔יְלָה וְאֵ֖ת הַכּֽוֹכָבִֽים: 17And God placed them in the expanse of the heavens to shed light upon the earth. יזוַיִּתֵּ֥ן אֹתָ֛ם אֱלֹהִ֖ים בִּרְקִ֣יעַ הַשָּׁמָ֑יִם לְהָאִ֖יר עַל־הָאָֽרֶץ: 18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate between the light and between the darkness, and God saw that it was good. יחוְלִמְשֹׁל֙ בַּיּ֣וֹם וּבַלַּ֔יְלָה וּֽלֲהַבְדִּ֔יל בֵּ֥ין הָא֖וֹר וּבֵ֣ין הַח֑שֶׁךְ וַיַּ֥רְא אֱלֹהִ֖ים כִּי־טֽוֹב: 19And it was evening, and it was morning, a fourth day. יטוַֽיְהִי־עֶ֥רֶב וַֽיְהִי־בֹ֖קֶר י֥וֹם רְבִיעִֽי: 20And God said, "Let the waters swarm a swarming of living creatures, and let fowl fly over the earth, across the expanse of the heavens." כוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אֱלֹהִ֔ים יִשְׁרְצ֣וּ הַמַּ֔יִם שֶׁ֖רֶץ נֶ֣פֶשׁ חַיָּ֑ה וְעוֹף֙ יְעוֹפֵ֣ף עַל־הָאָ֔רֶץ עַל־פְּנֵ֖י רְקִ֥יעַ הַשָּׁמָֽיִם: 21And God created the great sea monsters, and every living creature that crawls, with which the waters swarmed, according to their kind, and every winged fowl, according to its kind, and God saw that it was good. כאוַיִּבְרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֔ים אֶת־הַתַּנִּינִ֖ם הַגְּדֹלִ֑ים וְאֵ֣ת כָּל־נֶ֣פֶשׁ הַֽחַיָּ֣ה | הָֽרֹמֶ֡שֶׂת אֲשֶׁר֩ שָֽׁרְצ֨וּ הַמַּ֜יִם לְמִֽינֵהֶ֗ם וְאֵ֨ת כָּל־ע֤וֹף כָּנָף֙ לְמִינֵ֔הוּ וַיַּ֥רְא אֱלֹהִ֖ים כִּי־טֽוֹב: 22And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters of the seas, and let the fowl multiply upon the earth." כבוַיְבָ֧רֶךְ אֹתָ֛ם אֱלֹהִ֖ים לֵאמֹ֑ר פְּר֣וּ וּרְב֗וּ וּמִלְא֤וּ אֶת־הַמַּ֨יִם֙ בַּיַּמִּ֔ים וְהָע֖וֹף יִ֥רֶב בָּאָֽרֶץ: 23And it was evening, and it was morning, a fifth day. כגוַֽיְהִי־עֶ֥רֶב וַֽיְהִי־בֹ֖קֶר י֥וֹם חֲמִישִֽׁי: 24And God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kind, cattle and creeping things and the beasts of the earth according to their kind," and it was so. כדוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אֱלֹהִ֗ים תּוֹצֵ֨א הָאָ֜רֶץ נֶ֤פֶשׁ חַיָּה֙ לְמִינָ֔הּ בְּהֵמָ֥ה וָרֶ֛מֶשׂ וְחַֽיְתוֹ־אֶ֖רֶץ לְמִינָ֑הּ וַֽיְהִי־כֵֽן: 25And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kind and the cattle according to their kind, and all the creeping things of the ground according to their kind, and God saw that it was good. כהוַיַּ֣עַשׂ אֱלֹהִים֩ אֶת־חַיַּ֨ת הָאָ֜רֶץ לְמִינָ֗הּ וְאֶת־הַבְּהֵמָה֙ לְמִינָ֔הּ וְאֵ֛ת כָּל־רֶ֥מֶשׂ הָֽאֲדָמָ֖ה לְמִינֵ֑הוּ וַיַּ֥רְא אֱלֹהִ֖ים כִּי־טֽוֹב: 26And God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness, and they shall rule over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the heaven and over the animals and over all the earth and over all the creeping things that creep upon the earth." כווַיֹּ֣אמֶר אֱלֹהִ֔ים נַֽעֲשֶׂ֥ה אָדָ֛ם בְּצַלְמֵ֖נוּ כִּדְמוּתֵ֑נוּ וְיִרְדּוּ֩ בִדְגַ֨ת הַיָּ֜ם וּבְע֣וֹף הַשָּׁמַ֗יִם וּבַבְּהֵמָה֙ וּבְכָל־הָאָ֔רֶץ וּבְכָל־הָרֶ֖מֶשׂ הָֽרֹמֵ֥שׂ עַל־הָאָֽרֶץ: 27And God created man in His image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. כזוַיִּבְרָ֨א אֱלֹהִ֤ים | אֶת־הָֽאָדָם֙ בְּצַלְמ֔וֹ בְּצֶ֥לֶם אֱלֹהִ֖ים בָּרָ֣א אֹת֑וֹ זָכָ֥ר וּנְקֵבָ֖ה בָּרָ֥א אֹתָֽם: 28And God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and rule over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the sky and over all the beasts that tread upon the earth. " כחוַיְבָ֣רֶךְ אֹתָם֘ אֱלֹהִים֒ וַיֹּ֨אמֶר לָהֶ֜ם אֱלֹהִ֗ים פְּר֥וּ וּרְב֛וּ וּמִלְא֥וּ אֶת־הָאָ֖רֶץ וְכִבְשֻׁ֑הָ וּרְד֞וּ בִּדְגַ֤ת הַיָּם֙ וּבְע֣וֹף הַשָּׁמַ֔יִם וּבְכָל־חַיָּ֖ה הָֽרֹמֶ֥שֶׂת עַל־הָאָֽרֶץ: 29And God said, "Behold, I have given you every seed bearing herb, which is upon the surface of the entire earth, and every tree that has seed bearing fruit; it will be yours for food. כטוַיֹּ֣אמֶר אֱלֹהִ֗ים הִנֵּה֩ נָתַ֨תִּי לָכֶ֜ם אֶת־כָּל־עֵ֣שֶׂב | זֹרֵ֣עַ זֶ֗רַע אֲשֶׁר֙ עַל־פְּנֵ֣י כָל־הָאָ֔רֶץ וְאֶת־כָּל־הָעֵ֛ץ אֲשֶׁר־בּ֥וֹ פְרִי־עֵ֖ץ זֹרֵ֣עַ זָ֑רַע לָכֶ֥ם יִֽהְיֶ֖ה לְאָכְלָֽה: 30And to all the beasts of the earth and to all the fowl of the heavens, and to everything that moves upon the earth, in which there is a living spirit, every green herb to eat," and it was so. לוּלְכָל־חַיַּ֣ת הָ֠אָ֠רֶץ וּלְכָל־ע֨וֹף הַשָּׁמַ֜יִם וּלְכֹ֣ל | רוֹמֵ֣שׂ עַל־הָאָ֗רֶץ אֲשֶׁר־בּוֹ֙ נֶ֣פֶשׁ חַיָּ֔ה אֶת־כָּל־יֶ֥רֶק עֵ֖שֶׂב לְאָכְלָ֑ה וַֽיְהִי־כֵֽן: 31And God saw all that He had made, and behold it was very good, and it was evening and it was morning, the sixth day. לאוַיַּ֤רְא אֱלֹהִים֙ אֶת־כָּל־אֲשֶׁ֣ר עָשָׂ֔ה וְהִנֵּה־ט֖וֹב מְאֹ֑ד וַֽיְהִי־עֶ֥רֶב וַֽיְהִי־בֹ֖קֶר י֥וֹם הַשִּׁשִּֽׁי: -
Theological Problems with God-guided Evolution
AandW_Rootbeer replied to one.opinion's topic in Science and Faith
One.Opinion, If you would take the time to read this Version of the Creation Story I think you will see it does not leave blank areas like the KJV (a Translation) most often does. This version is from the Torah, the Hebrew, the very Version by which Yahweh (pre-incarnated Christ Exodus 6) handed to Moses. Chapter One will follow this post and Chapter Two will follow in the next post. Please read this Version and then tell me if you still see where Evolution is a possible way by which God brought forth Creation. The other Versions (translations of the Hebrew) leave much room for error. But this Original Version handed down from God to Moses makes things much clearer in my own opinion. -
It's interesting that a few years ago the Black Communities suddenly wanted to be labelled as African Americans. I read recently that has changed back to wanting to be called Black. I am positive many understand better what Africans ultimately did. Many don't yet and we are seeing some real issues today. But no doubt, American Black Citizens are becoming well aware of what Africa and its people have done to them.