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Anybody notice how weird that Armageddon gets 4 chapters worth of coverage meanwhile the final destruction of Satan gets only 4 verses?
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If the great tribulation happened. We would be all under the control of the antichrist, who will rule the world for only 3.5 years. Also all the unbelievers will suffer(Matthew 24) and the righteous - though persecuted and martyred, will be left untouched by disasters that are to follow. The sun will become extremely hot(scorching men) before going dark, the moon turns to blood red, the waters of the earth turn to blood, the Euphrates drys up, and there's also a battle at Armageddon in which the Antichrist and false prophet will all be put into hell alive.
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Tim LaHaye anyone? The rapture as we understand it was a concept developed in the early 1800s by an Irish ex catholic priest John Nelson Darby. Darby as far as I know, never quoted any church fathers or early church documents to support his view. This view common among evangelicalism, is known as Dispensationalism or dispensational premillennialism. It was further popularized by books like Left Behind. As far as I know, I have never read any church father who holds to this view. Also as far as I know, I have never read any church father saying the mark of the beast is literal. The obsession with calling microchips and barcodes marks of the beast is unfounded as far as I know(And it also ruins Christianity's reputation). I personally believe the mark mentioned in revelation 13 is not literal, as it parallels the shema, and also the book of Revelation also says in multiple areas that believers will have God's name written into their foreheads. So if we are to believe that we will literally be capable of recieving a mark of the beast in the future, will we also be able to recieve a mark from God in our foreheads in the future(As far as I know, nobody believes this)? No, the mark of the beast is not a literal symbol, marks and tattoos in ancient times were used to identify people as belonging to certain tribes. The mark of the beast will be to those who have completely and utterly submitted to the beast, and the name of God on the foreheads will be to those who have fully submitted to God. Personally I'm not sure what eschatology I hold to. All I know is that Christ will return and he will destroy all sin, death, and suffering forever. I also know that the devil, the other demons and those who worship them will also be thrown into hellfire, death and Hades will be thrown into hellfire. And we will live in a new heaven and earth were sin, death, and suffering do not exist anymore. I also believe in the great white throne and the resurrection of the dead. -
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Have you ever heard a Christian claim that some famous particular political figure is the antichrist? I know you do. But Literally they are all wrong. The bible clearly says the son of perdition(if he exists) is currently a nobody who will overnight gain immense political power: Daniel 7:8 "While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a human being and a mouth that spoke boastfully." clearly this "little horn" despite appearing out of nowhere, became so powerful that he uprooted 3 other horns. This scratches all these people: Donald Trump Elon Musk or literally anyone else, from the antichrist list. It's not the first time. Ronald Wilson Reagan(6 letters each name, thus 6 6 6) has been called the antichrist, but he clearly was not the antichrist because he lost power and died from Alzheimer's, he never even ruled the world. Requirements for Jesus to return: * The mass conversion of Israel to Christianity: Matthew 23:29 * The Requirement that the gospel must be preached to all the nations: Mark 13:7-10 which says: " 7 When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 8 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the beginning of birth pains. 9 “You must be on your guard. You will be handed over to the local councils and flogged in the synagogues. On account of me you will stand before governors and kings as witnesses to them. 10 And the gospel must first be preached to all nations. " However, there are still many as 1000-200 uncontacted tribes(such as the north Sentinel island people -Whom we don't even know the language of) that have never heard the gospel. We need to outreach these people. John Allen Chau bravely tried to evangelize to the north Sentinelese and died in the process - not even coming close to achieving the goal. Simply enough, this world is not ready yet for the end times or the tribulation.
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I was not going to discuss those people, they are a plague too, but I think that people who mark themselves with the lord but do not take his word seriously are lying with their skin.
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Also note that tattoos were popularized in the 70s, coinciding with the sexual revolution(not meant to be an argument), and that before that, tattoos were mostly found among sailors(mostly due to superstition - which God hates) and prisoners. But I'm not here to make any argument. Personally, I would never get myself tatted, you should not make a Christian violate his conscience. Also around the same time, abortion was declared a 'human right' by a bunch of libtard justices. Again this is just history, it's no argument
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As long as they don't wear it in vain. People who do not actually care about the faith but call themselves "Christians" are not to wear such things for they mislead others and lie to the holy spirit as Ananias and Sapphira did. But people who wear a Christian cross but condone or even engage in homosexuality, heresy, fornication, adultery, abortion, contraception(Really not here to discuss this, so don't comment, I personally like to believe what every single church preached before 1930; but I'm not here to discuss this), masturbation, pornography, lying, stealing, following the heart's evil ways, etc; they are heaping judgement upon themselves for they mislead others. I pray for these people.
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This topic is not about people who get tattoos(obviously some true Christians have gotten tats) this is about the usual lukewarmness of faith commonly found in people who wear such symbols
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Think about how many people wear cross necklaces and have tattoos of Jesus, then look at their works. There are porn actress who wear cross necklaces - even atheists who wear them(Lance Armstrong). What am saying is not that these people should not get tattoos or wear necklaces - I am just saying that by wearing these Christian symbols in vain they are heaping judgement upon themselves. Most of these people are not true saved Christians - just look at America right now, porn imagery is as common as air molecules, women are more promiscuous than ever, homosexuality is worshiped, etc. You ever heard of sturgeon's law - 90% crud?
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https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0712.htm It is the oldest commentary on the book of revelation that exists. It doesn't go in to much detail about revelation 13 though. This commentary is dated to the 3rd century AD. Interestingly, though the website is Catholic, the translation reads: " "And there was seen a great sign in heaven. A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. And being with child, she cried out travailing, and bearing torments that she might bring forth." The woman clothed with the sun, and having the moon under her feet, and wearing a crown of twelve stars upon her head, and travailing in her pains, is the ancient Church of fathers, and prophets, and saints, and apostles, which had the groans and torments of its longing until it saw that Christ, the fruit of its people according to the flesh long promised to it, had taken flesh out of the selfsame people. Moreover, being clothed with the sun intimates the hope of resurrection and the glory of the promise. And the moon intimates the fall of the bodies of the saints under the obligation of death, which never can fail. For even as life is diminished, so also it is increased. Nor is the hope of those that sleep extinguished absolutely, as some think, but they have in their darkness a light such as the moon. And the crown of twelve stars signifies the choir of fathers, according to the fleshly birth, of whom Christ was to take flesh. " It also seems to have a postmillennial view of eschatology: "1-3. "And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the abyss, and a chain in his hand. And he held the dragon, that old serpent, which is called the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and cast him into the abyss, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be finished: after this he must be loosed a little season." Those years wherein Satan is bound are in the first advent of Christ, even to the end of the age; and they are called a thousand, according to that mode of speaking, wherein a part is signified by the whole, just as is that passage, "the word which He commanded for a thousand generations," although they are not a thousand. Moreover that he says, "and he cast him into the abyss," he says this, because the devil, excluded from the hearts of believers, began to take possession of the wicked, in whose hearts, blinded day by day, he is shut up as if in a profound abyss. And he shut him up, says he, and put a seal upon him, that he should not deceive the nations until the thousand years should be finished. "He shut the door upon him," it is said, that is, he forbade and restrained his seducing those who belong to Christ. Moreover, he put a seal upon him, because it is hidden who belong to the side of the devil, and who to that of Christ. For we know not of those who seem to stand whether they shall not fall, and of those who are down it is uncertain whether they may rise. Moreover, that he says that he is bound and shut up, that he may not seduce the nations, the nations signify the Church, seeing that of them it itself is formed, and which being seduced, he previously held until, he says, the thousand years should be completed, that is, what is left of the sixth day, to wit, of the sixth age, which subsists for a thousand years; after this he must be loosed for a little season. The little season signifies three years and six months, in which with all his power the devil will avenge himself under Antichrist against the Church. Finally, he says, after that the devil shall be loosed, and will seduce the nations in the whole world, and will entice war against the Church, the number of whose foes shall be as the sand of the sea. " Note though it does mention a catholic church, note that "catholic" means universal. In these days there weren't these modern splits between churches, and even today many churches, not just the Roman church but also the Orthodox(both oriental and eastern), the Assyrian, and even some high church protestant churches have claimed to be the catholic church
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Do not write Jesus on your skin unless you really mean it and truly love Jesus with all your heart, soul, strength, mind, and body.
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Don't you notice how people who have tattoos of Jesus or of Christian imagery and those who wear necklaces of the cross/crucifix are usually the most lukewarm Christians that exist. I know a man who has Jesus' image tattooed on his arm but he has engaged in fornication and has an illegitimate child with my cousin and sees nothing sinful about his life style. And I know even more people who wear cross/crucifix necklaces but have called me a crazy nutjob religious freak/zealot simply because I take my faith seriously. It's not that their committing heresy or heterodoxy(Though I believe personally that tattoos are sinful, but I'm not here to discuss that), it's that they legitimately don't care. There are exceptions, with Christians who may have a christian tattoo or wear a cross necklace who actually give a darn about the faith(Like Matt Walsh - though he has said he wouldn't have gotten tattoos looking back), but these are a minority, the vast majority of people who write Jesus on their skin and wear him around their necks are lukewarm - and the bible certainly has something to say about these people: 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 "For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds. " Matthew 7:21-23 "“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’" Titus 1:16 "They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work. " 2 Timothy 3:5 "Having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. " James 1:26 "If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless. " Matthew 15:7-9 "You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’” " Matthew: 6:2-4: "“So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." For this reason you will never find any kind of tattoo - even one of Jesus - on my skin(Though I also believe tattoos are ugly and sinful - but I I didn't post this to discuss the sinfulness of tattoos - and quite frankly I don't wish to discuss it right now). And for this reason I don't wear necklaces - even those of the cross(though also because I find necklaces uncomfortable)
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Pride month has ended
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Does this chapter keep you up at night? In my opinion it is the most horrifying chapter of the whole bible depending on your interpretation
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Glory to God in the highest And to earth peace And goodwill to all men who love YHWH -
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RealReligionofPeace replied to RealReligionofPeace's topic in General Discussion
I hope that pride month gets one day abolished. So should black history month, women's history month, Asian heritage month, Pacific Islander heritage month, and all other similar 'months'. In my denomination, June is the month of the sacred heart of Jesus, now that is billions of times more based than celebrating sin. -
In my home state of Florida it has probably been the most chill pride month in years. I didn't see many celebrations of "pride" this year. Not many rainbows. Thank the lord, it was also chill last year. However in 2022 I couldn't go anywhere without seeing a rainbow. Halleluyah.
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How many bibles do you have in your home? What translations?