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Dave, you said, He was speaking plainly to every man and not just those entrenched in said doctrines. I have checked several versions of the Bible and it is plain He speaks to everyman. Everyman must be born again. Today it is plain that the informtion is for every man, and today it is compiled knowledge. But while those events were taking place, the words Yeshua spoke at each event were for the individuals involved. On several occasions, Yeshua told some who were reluctant to become disciples that they must repent and be baptized if they wanted to be saved. Those men had never been "endoctrinated" by the priests, in the priests schools. They needed to be born into the spirit for the first time. But on one occasion, he told Nicodemus, a priest of the temple, that he must be born again. Nicodemus was a trained priest, who didn't want the other priests to know that he was talking to Yeshua at all. (He came by night) The priests of the temple were "eating at Jezabels table" with Herodeous, and bringing her doctrine into the temple. (And it takes knowledge from all four gospels to understad this.) Nicodemus needed to be BORN AGAIN into the Spirit. Because the adversary has sowed TARES into the kingdom on earth that we call the church, nearly everyone in it has need to be BORN AGAIN into the Spirit, just so that they might be certain they they are not TARES. You said, Secondly the Bible was written and translated in plain English so as not only the learned but the common man could understand. Yes, Sir, it is, but even so, it must be comprehended by the reader. And I understand that I am not the only person on this earth who needed to have the verses "plowed up" in order to understand at my fullest capacty. The Lord has been twelve years in teaching me to do thing. If this is the ministry that the Lord has given to me, then who am I to deny his sheep the gift that he has given to me? You also said, Parables were spoken so those in the Spirit could plainly understand , but those who thought they were learned could not recieve them. This you too know. The Lord has not sent me to the secular world. They can not even hear the false doctrines. They surely would not hear a Spiritual message. Those in the Spirit will hear these posts that I have been doing. And them who think themselves learned will fulfill prophesy. They will not receive me, and might even cast me out and persecute me in various ways. You said, Thirdly as the scripture aptly and quite plainly announces above. G-d does not give the Spirit in measure to Yeshua (Jesus)! Therefore when you are reborn into Him. All is possible even interpreting the plainly written Scriptures. I thought our job is to make sure they are all reborn You We must all ask, seek ,and pray, most fervrently! I totally agree! You, I see what you are trying to say! Yet it is already plainly said so that those on milk, or meat might understand! G-ds arm is not short and He will provide the right nourishment at the right time. How do you know that I am not some of that nourishent? I could be, and I might not, only the Lord knows. I just know that if I had been the only person who was saved by his obedience to God, he would have still done it. I can offer him nothing less. You, I sought only clarification for the Lords Glory. That is my job here. When you say Yeshua must learn to be good. It sounds to some in your drawn out explanation that you are saying Christ had to learn to be good. G-d forbid! We can not disregard the prophesies that he would learn just because they have been ignored by the theologians. Either the whole bible is true, or it is false. But I will never be convinced that some of it is false, while knowing that the rest is true. You Simply try to be more clear with His Glory! He is so very Precious. His Glory is His own. He deserves it! I,m open for suggestions. For a Spiritual "plowing" I don't know how to get any plainer. And since the Lord God of heaven has given this to me this way, he knows whether or not I am giving him the glory. By the way, why do you write -- G-d?

Matt 4:23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people Strong

Matt 4:21 And going on from thence, he saw other two brethren, James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, in a ship with Zebedee their father, mending their nets; and he called them. Strong

Comsciousness of those bonds come when you are not expecting them, right? When a thought pops into my mind that has no connection with what I am doing at the time, I look on it as the Lord prompting me to pray for that person.

For me, it was using the meanings of the words in the verses that allowed me to hear past natural discernment, untangling the interpretations of natural men, so that I could hear the spiritual message of the Lord. I do not perceive it as overemphasis. There are those who are not as studued as the rest, who might read my posts. How can a man be in Yeshua and He in the man, if the mind of Christ does not come into the man? We must all learn to be like Yeshua! That is what his baptism is. His house is a household of priests unto God and his Father. (Rev. something) We either agree with Yeshua or we do not. We are for him, or against him. Yes, you are to rule over your own sin, eradicating it. Yeshua told his disciples to repent and be baptized. But he told Nicodemus he must be born again, because Nicodemus was entrenched in the dctrines of the Herodians. (I'll find that one for you, if you don't find it first.) Some need the drawn out explanations, skip them if you do not. Yeshua is the head of the household, Jesus is the household that is called by his name. I am using this the same way we (ppl) know each other, (Jim Hunter or Joe Moss, etc.) (Something like calling you Dave Jesus) See what I mean?

Matt 4:19 And he saith unto them, Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men. Matt 4:20 And they straightway left their nets, and followed him. How does this apply to me? I recognize that I live in the above mentioned place. I also know that I truly listen, I hear with intelligence, knowing good advice when I hear it. I am every bit as hard headed as Peter was. I still have courage and spiritual strength. And I have spent 12 years in the household of organized religion, fishing with the wrong net! The net I had been fishing with was the wrong doctrine. Examples: 1) Religion; Only Jesus sows the word. YESHUA; the sower sows the word 2) Religion; You can not be like Jesus. YESHUA; the servant is as his master. 3) Religion; Kneel at the foot of the cross and pray. YESHUA; kneel at my feet to learn, and pray to the Father. 4) Religion; you can never be perfect. YESHUA; be you perfect even as he is perfect. And just as YESHUA said to Peter and Andrew, he also says to me,

Matt 4:18 And Jesus, walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers. Strong

Matt 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Strong

Matt 4:16 The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up. Strong

Matt 4:15 The land of Zabulon, and the land of Nephthalim, by the way of the sea, beyond Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles; Strong

Matt 4:14 That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Strong

Matt 4:13 And leaving Nazareth, he came and dwelt in Capernaum, which is upon the sea coast, in the borders of Zabulon and Nephthalim: Strong

Are you saying that Christ had a sin nature that he had to shed? An old man he had to shed? To gain the new? Was He fully G-d and fully man? Without sin? A lamb without spot? Peace, :il: Dave No, Dr. Luke, I'm saying that he came to fulfill prophesy. Not one, but all of them. ISA 7:13 And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also? ISA 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. ISA 7:15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good.ISA 7:16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings. Yeshua has to learn to choose the good!

Matt 4:12 Now when Jesus had heard that John was cast into prison, he departed into Galilee; Strong

Matt 4:11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him. Strong

Just as it was done in the days past. Isaiah 22:20 'Then it shall be in that day, That I will call My servant Eliakim the son of Hilkiah; 21 I will clothe him with your robe And strengthen him with your belt; I will commit your responsibility into his hand. He shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem And to the house of Judah. 22 The key of the house of David I will lay on his shoulder; So he shall open, and no one shall shut; And he shall shut, and no one shall open. In His Love, Suzanne Yes, Suzanne The religious people today resist anything that is new to them, because they trust in the old way, the way that is familiar to them. They forget that evil only comes in where there is no righteousness of God among the people. The bible tells over and over again that God raises up the ones who really listen to him, to bring about the healing from sin that false prophets, who didn't know that they had become false, had sinned.

Matt 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Strong

Matt 4:9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. Strong

Matt 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and showeth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; Strong

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