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ss, Is it possible to know that the stock market is going to crash or say rise. My apologies for anwering for you, for the sake of arguement, yes is the answer. Or say that it is possible to know that the sun shall rise in the morning. Just because one can know these things does not mean that one can control them or will control them. To apply this to the knowledge of God. God can know that one will or can pray for things, but this does not in any way take away the free will of the person. Something that seems to me that you may be confused in is a difference in all knowing and predestination. God does not predestine one to do anything. About my earlier statement I now feel the need to explain. I know that you believe in God. You don't have to say anything. By your very complaint proves that you believe in God. If no God, why complain at all? Is it because you think I care, or that anyone cares. Why compain to me or anyone, are we Truth? If a man complains about the nature of things in this world it is because his conscience tells him that there is justice and truth, and only one justice and one truth. You complain because your conscience tells you that someone listening cares about you. If not, then why complain? I do not care about you nor anyone else. God alone cares and God alone listens to you. If I listen or care about you or anyone else by that fact it is not because our nature alone cares for you, it is because the Divine Justice and Truth in me that God alone has given me cares for you, and he is working in me. That is the reason we listen and care. Not by our nature but by God's nature adopted by man. You seek for Truth, is that not true? By asking these questions you prove that you seek Truth. But where does Truth come from? Truth, Justice, Love, Life, these are all things that we know exist. We know this because we search for them. Man does not search for things that do not exist unless he is psychotic. Man does not search for little green monsters under our beds. Because they are not real! So if these exist where do they come from. They do not come from me. They do not come from you. If they did all that we would have to do is search ourselves to find them, in that case you would not spend time typing on this board. By these reasons is how I know that your conscience believes in a Divine God. Now quit denying it. 90% of the psycosis and nerosis cases are due to man denying his conscience. The guilt that conscience causes is too heavy a burden for man to beat. I am guessing that the real reason you deny God has nothing to do with your study or belief in him and has all to do with the way you live your life. Meaning your moral life.

Slippery Slope, Glad to hear that you believe in God. All that I see that is left is for you to start living your moral life as He has said and to quit denying your conscience. Admitting that you believe in God is a start, good job!

To all, References in New Testament Order Matthew Matthew 4:4 Wisdom 16:26 Matthew 4:15 1 Maccabees 5:15 Matthew 5:18 Baruch 4:1 Matthew 5:28 Sirach 9:8 Matthew 5:2ss Sirach 25:7-12 Matthew 5:4 Sirach 48:24 Matthew 6:7 Sirach 7:14 Matthew 6:9 Sirach 23:1, 4 Matthew 6:10 1 Maccabees 3:60 Matthew 6:12 Sirach 28:2 Matthew 6:13 Sirach 33:1 Matthew 6:20 Sirach 29:10s Matthew 6:23 Sirach 14:10 Matthew 6:33 Wisdom 7:11 Matthew 7:12 Tobit 4:15 Matthew 7:12 Sirach 31:15 Matthew 7:16 Sirach 27:6 Matthew 8:11 Baruch 4:37 Matthew 8:21 Tobit 4:3 Matthew 9:36 Judith 11:19 Matthew 9:38 1 Maccabees 12:17 Matthew 10:16 Sirach 13:17 Matthew 11:14 Sirach 48:10 Matthew 11:22 Judith 16:17 Matthew 11:25 Tobit 7:17 Matthew 11:25 Sirach 51:1 Matthew 11:28 Sirach 24:19 Matthew 11:28 Sirach 51:23 Matthew 11:29 Sirach 6:24s Matthew 11:29 Sirach 6:28s Matthew 11:29 Sirach 51:26s Matthew 12:4 2 Maccabees 10:3 Matthew 12:5 Sirach 40:15 Matthew 13:44 Sirach 20:30s Matthew 16:18 Wisdom 16:13 Matthew 16:22 1 Maccabees 2:21 Matthew 16:27 Sirach 35:22 Matthew 17:11 Sirach 48:10 Matthew 18:10 Tobit 12:15 Matthew 20:2 Tobit 5:15 Matthew 22:13 Wisdom 17:2 Matthew 23:38 Tobit 14:4 Matthew 24:15 1 Maccabees 1:54 Matthew 24:15 2 Maccabees 8:17 Matthew 24:16 1 Maccabees 2:28 Matthew 25:35 Tobit 4:17 Matthew 25:36 Sirach 7:32-35 Matthew 26:38 Sirach 37:2 Matthew 27:24 Daniel 13:46 Matthew 27:43 Wisdom 2:13 Matthew 27:43 Wisdom 2:18-20 Top Mark Mark 1:15 Tobit 14:5 Mark 4:5 Sirach 40:15 Mark 4:11 Wisdom 2:22 Mark 5:34 Judith 8:35 Mark 6:49 Wisdom 17:15 Mark 8:37 Sirach 26:14 Mark 9:31 Sirach 2:18 Mark 9:48 Judith 16:17 Mark 10:18 Sirach 4:1 Mark 14:34 Sirach 37:2 Mark 15:29 Wisdom 2:17s Top Luke Luke 1:17 Sirach 48:10 Luke 1:19 Tobit 12:15 Luke 1:42 Judith 13:18 Luke 1:52 Sirach 10:14 Luke 2:29 Tobit 11:9 Luke 2:37 Judith 8:6 Luke 6:35 Wisdom 15:1 Luke 7:22 Sirach 48:5 Luke 9:8 Sirach 48:10 Luke 10:17 Tobit 7:17 Luke 10:19 Sirach 11:19 Luke 10:21 Sirach 51:1 Luke 12:19 Tobit 7:10 Luke 12:20 Wisdom 15:8 Luke 13:25 Tobit 14:4 Luke 13:27 1 Maccabees 3:6 Luke 13:29 Baruch 4:37 Luke 14:13 Tobit 2:2 Luke 15:12 1 Maccabees 10:29 [30] Luke 15:12 Tobit 3:17 Luke 18:7 Sirach 35:22 Luke 19:44 Wisdom 3:7 Luke 21:24 Tobit 14:5 Luke 21:24 Sirach 28:18 Luke 21:25 Wisdom 5:22 Luke 24:4 2 Maccabees 3:26 Luke 24:31 2 Maccabees 3:34 Luke 24:50 Sirach 50:20s Luke 24:53 Sirach 50:22 Top John John 1:3 Wisdom 9:1 John 3:8 Sirach 16:21 John 3:12 Wisdom 9:16 John 3:12 Wisdom 18:15s John 3:13 Baruch 3:29 John 3:28 1 Maccabees 9:39 John 3:32 Tobit 4:6 John 4:9 Sirach 50:25s John 4:48 Wisdom 8:8 John 5:18 Wisdom 2:16 John 6:35 Sirach 24:21 John 7:38 Sirach 24:40, 43[30s] John 8:44 Wisdom 2:24 John 8:53 Sirach 44:19 John 10:20 Wisdom 5:4 John 10:22 1 Maccabees 4:59 John 14:15 Wisdom 6:18 John 15:9s Wisdom 3:9 John 17:3 Wisdom 15:3 John 20:22 Wisdom 15:11 Top Acts Acts 1:10 2 Maccabees 3:26 Acts 1:18 Wisdom 4:19 Acts 2:4 Sirach 48:12 Acts 2:11 Sirach 36:7 Acts 2:39 Sirach 24:32 Acts 4:24 Judith 9:12 Acts 5:2 2 Maccabees 4:32 Acts 5:12 1 Maccabees 12:6 Acts 5:21 2 Maccabees 1:10 Acts 5:39 2 Maccabees 7:19 Acts 9:1-29 2 Maccabees 3:24-40 Acts 9:2 1 Maccabees 15:21 Acts 9:7 Wisdom 18:1 Acts 10:2 Tobit 12:8 Acts 10:22 1 Maccabees 10:25 Acts 10:22 1 Maccabees 11:30, 33 etc. Acts 10:26 Wisdom 7:1 Acts 10:30 2 Maccabees 11:8 Acts 10:34 Sirach 35:12s Acts 10:36 Wisdom 6:7 Acts 10:36 Wisdom 8:3 etc. Acts 11:18 Wisdom 12:19 Acts 12:5 Judith 4:9 Acts 12:10 Sirach 19:26 Acts 12:23 Judith 16:17 Acts 12:23 Sirach 48:21 Acts 12:23 1 Maccabees 7:41 Acts 12:23 2 Maccabees 9:9 Acts 13:10 Sirach 1:30 Acts 13:17 Wisdom 19:10 Acts 14:14 Judith 14:16s Acts 14:15 Wisdom 7:3 Acts 15:4 Judith 8:26 Acts 16:14 2 Maccabees 1:4 Acts 17:23 Wisdom 14:20 Acts 17:23 Wisdom 15:17 Acts 17:24, 25 Wisdom 9:1 Acts 17:24 Tobit 7:17 Acts 17:24 Wisdom 9:9 Acts 17:26 Wisdom 7:18 Acts 17:27 Wisdom 13:6 Acts 17:29 Wisdom 13:10 Acts 17:30 Sirach 28:7 Acts 19:27 Wisdom 3:17 Acts 19:28 Daniel 14:18, 41 Acts 20:26 Daniel 13:46 Acts 20:32 Wisdom 5:5 Acts 20:35 Sirach 4:31 Acts 21:26 1 Maccabees 3:49 Acts 22.9 Wisdom 18.1 Acts 24:2 2 Maccabees 4:6 Acts 26:18 Wisdom 5:5 Acts 26:25 Judith 10:13 Top Romans Romans 1:19-32 Wisdom 13-15 Romans 1:21 Wisdom 13:1 Romans 1:23 Wisdom 11:15 Romans 1:23 Wisdom 12:24 Romans 1:28 2 Maccabees 6:4 Romans 2:4 Wisdom 11:23 Romans 2:11 Sirach 35:12s Romans 2:15 Wisdom 17:11 Romans 4:13 Sirach 44:21 Romans 4:17 Sirach 44:19 Romans 5:5 Sirach 18:11 Romans 5:12 Wisdom 2:24 Romans 9:4 Sirach 44:12 Romans 9:4 2 Maccabees 6:23 Romans 9:19 Wisdom 12:12 Romans 9:21 Wisdom 15:7 Romans 9:31 Sirach 27:8 Romans 9:31 Wisdom 2:11 Romans 10.7 Wisdom 16.13 Romans 10:6 Baruch 3:29 Romans 11:4 2 Maccabees 2:4 Romans 11:15 Sirach 10:20s Romans 11:33 Wisdom 17:1 Romans 12:15 Sirach 7:34 Romans 13:1 Sirach 4:27 Romans 13:1 Wisdom 6:3s Romans 13.10 Wisdom 6.18 Romans 15:4 1 Maccabees 12:9 Romans 15:8 Sirach 36:20 Top 1 Corinthians 1 Corinthians 1:24 Wisdom 7:24s 1 Corinthians 2:16 Wisdom 9:13 1 Corinthians 2:9 Sirach 1:10 1 Corinthians 4:13 Tobit 5:19 1 Corinthians 4:14 Wisdom 11:10 1 Corinthians 6:2 Wisdom 3:8 1 Corinthians 6:12 Sirach 37:28 1 Corinthians 6:13 Sirach 36:18 1 Corinthians 6:18 Sirach 23:17 1 Corinthians 7:19 Sirach 32:23 1 Corinthians 9:19 Sirach 6:19 1 Corinthians 9:25 Wisdom 4:2 1 Corinthians 10:1 Wisdom 19:7s 1 Corinthians 10:20 Baruch 4:7 1 Corinthians 10:23 Sirach 37:28 1 Corinthians 11:7 Sirach 17:3 1 Corinthians 11:7 Wisdom 2:23 1 Corinthians 11:24 Wisdom 16:6 1 Corinthians 15:29 2 Maccabees 12:43s 1 Corinthians 15:32 Wisdom 2:5s 1 Corinthians 15:34 Wisdom 13:1 Top 2 Corinthians 2 Corinthians 5:1, 4 Wisdom 9:15 2 Corinthians 12:12 Wisdom 10:16 Top Galatians Galatians 2:6 Sirach 35:13 Galatians 4:4 Tobit 14:5 Galatians 6:1 Wisdom 17:17 Top Ephesians Ephesians 1:6 Sirach 45:1 Ephesians 1:6 Sirach 46:13 Ephesians 1:17 Wisdom 7:7 Ephesians 4:14 Sirach 5:9 Ephesians 4:24 Wisdom 9:3 Ephesians 6:12 Wisdom 5:17 Ephesians 6:14 Wisdom 5:18 Ephesians 6:16 Wisdom 5:19, 21 Top Philippians Philippians 4:5 Wisdom 2:19 Philippians 4:13 Wisdom 7:23 Philippians 4:18 Sirach 35:6 Top Colossians Colossians 2:3 Sirach 1:24s Top 1 Thessalonians 1 Thessalonians 3:11 Judith 12:8 1 Thessalonians 4:6 Sirach 5:3 1 Thessalonians 4:13 Wisdom 3:18 1 Thessalonians 5:1 Wisdom 8:8 1 Thessalonians 5:2 Wisdom 18:14s 1 Thessalonians 5:3 Wisdom 17:14 1 Thessalonians 5:8 Wisdom 5:18 Top 2 Thessalonians 2 Thessalonians 2:1 2 Maccabees 2:7 Top 1 Timothy 1 Timothy 1:17 Tobit 13:7, 11 1 Timothy 2:2 2 Maccabees 3:11 1 Timothy 2:2 Baruch 1:11s 1 Timothy 6:15 Sirach 46:5 1 Timothy 6:15 2 Maccabees 12:15 1 Timothy 6:15 2 Maccabees 13:4 Top 2 Timothy 2 Timothy 2:19 Sirach 17:26 2 Timothy 2:19 Sirach 23:10v1 2 Timothy 2:19 Sirach 35:3 2 Timothy 4:8 Wisdom 5:16 2 Timothy 4:17 1 Maccabees 2:60 Top Titus Titus 2:11 2 Maccabees 3:30 Titus 3:4 Wisdom 1:6 Top Hebrews Hebrews 1:3 Wisdom 7:25s Hebrews 2:5 Sirach 17:17 Hebrews 4.12 Wisdom 18.15s Hebrews 4:12 Wisdom 7:22-30 Hebrews 5:6 1 Maccabees 14:41 Hebrews 7:22 Sirach 29:14ss Hebrews 11:5 Sirach 44:16 Hebrews 11:5 Wisdom 4:10 Hebrews 11:6 Wisdom 10:17 Hebrews 11.10 Wisdom 13.1 Hebrews 11:10 2 Maccabees 4:1 Hebrews 11:17 1 Maccabees 2:52 Hebrews 11:17 Sirach 44:20 Hebrews 11:27 Sirach 2:2 Hebrews 11:28 Wisdom 18:25 Hebrews 11:35 2 Maccabees 6:18-7:42 Hebrews 12:4 2 Maccabees 13:14 Hebrews 12:9 2 Maccabees 3:24 Hebrews 12:12 Sirach 25:23 Hebrews 12:17 Wisdom 12:10 Hebrews 12:21 1 Maccabees 13:2 Hebrews 13:7 Sirach 33:19 Hebrews 13:7 Wisdom 2:17 Top James James 1:1 2 Maccabees 1:27 James 1:13 Sirach 15:11-20 James 1:19 Sirach 5:11 James 1:2 Sirach 2:1 James 1:2 Wisdom 3:4s James 1:21 Sirach 3:17 James 2:13 Tobit 4:10 James 2:23 Wisdom 7:27 James 3:2 Sirach 14:1 James 3:6 Sirach 5:13 James 3:9 Sirach 23:1, 4 James 3:10 Sirach 5:13 James 3:10 Sirach 28:12 James 3:13 Sirach 3:17 James 4:2 1 Maccabees 8:16 James 4:11 Wisdom 1:11 James 5:3 Judith 16:17 James 5:3 Sirach 29:10 James 5:4 Tobit 4:14 James 5:6 Wisdom 2:10 James 5:6 Wisdom 2:12 James 5:6 Wisdom 2:19 Top 1 Peter 1 Peter 1:3 Sirach 16:12 1 Peter 1:7 Sirach 2:5 1 Peter 2:25 Wisdom 1:6 1 Peter 4:19 2 Maccabees 1:24 etc. 1 Peter 5:7 Wisdom 12:13 Top 2 Peter 2 Peter 2:2 Wisdom 5:6 2 Peter 2:7 Wisdom 10:6 2 Peter 3:9 Sirach 35:19 2 Peter 3:18 Sirach 18:10 Top 1 John 1 John 5:21 Baruch 5:72 Top Jude Jude 13 Wisdom 14:1 Top Revelation Revelation 1:18 Sirach 18:1 Revelation 2:10 2 Maccabees 13:14 Revelation 2:12 Wisdom 18:16 [15] Revelation 2:17 2 Maccabees 2:4-8 Revelation 4:11 Sirach 18:1 Revelation 4:11 Wisdom 1:14 Revelation 5:7 Sirach 1:8 Revelation 7:9 2 Maccabees 10:7 Revelation 8:1 Wisdom 18:14 Revelation 8:2 Tobit 12:15 Revelation 8:3 Tobit 12:12 Revelation 8:7 Sirach 39:29 Revelation 8:7 Wisdom 16:22 Revelation 9:3 Wisdom 16:9 Revelation 9:4 Sirach 44:18 etc. Revelation 11:19 2 Maccabees 2:4-8 Revelation 17:14 2 Maccabees 13:4 Revelation 18:2 Baruch 4:35 Revelation 19:1 Tobit 13:18 Revelation 19:11 2 Maccabees 3:25 Revelation 19:11 2 Maccabees 11:8 Revelation 19:16 2 Maccabees 13:4 Revelation 20:12s Sirach 16:12 Revelation 21:19s Tobit 13:17 Why were these rejected? If they were good enough for Jesus are they not worthy? Nicholas

Jim, Your understanding of what the CC teachings of infallibility is what is confused. Infallibility, does not mean that the RCC allways has the complete answer, it means that it never teaches the wrong answer. This is a big difference from what your entire post is about. At least you are thinking though.

Your answer in full. It must be read to understand, so please do not skip it due to laziness. Call No Man "Father"? Many Protestants claim that when Catholics address priests as "father," they are engaging in an unbiblical practice that Jesus forbade: "Call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven" (Matt. 23:9). In his tract 10 Reasons Why I Am Not a Roman Catholic, Fundamentalist anti-Catholic writer Donald Maconaghie quotes this passage as support for his charge that "the papacy is a hoax." Bill Jackson, another Fundamentalist who runs a full-time anti-Catholic organization, says in his book Christian

This is nothing new. In the 1950's we had carberators that could run 60-80 miles to the gallon. hmmmm Want to know what happened to the men that built it? Well line up, their wives want to know the same thing.

yep, I must endure to the end, just like everyone else. Then Jesus judges me.

sure

Welcome Irene

No offense Yod, but I'll let God decide if I am saved or not. In the mean time God-Man is deciding if my posts are saved or not. Wow I am special, i don't have to worry about freewill. God-man erases all of my sins before they affect anyone.

Shouldn't we all be liberal Christians? Depends on how you define the word.

Scripture tells us there is a worst sin, therefore logic tells us there is a least sin. and many in between.

Dimeministries The early church taught many things that you probably don't agree with.

Hebrews, now that is why I'm confused. I haven't read that one.