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"Columbo: the Case of the Missing Believer"(or, subtitle- "Who Wrote this Book?"(The Holy Bible)) Submitted/prepared by John M. Whalen (bold my emphasis) Most of us love a

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___ Thanks brother Wayne. Too bad that overrated Aw-bern "University"(loosely used here, of course) has not been able to "post" many victories, "indeed", as they have been "blown" away, and are "sinking" in the "sea" of mediocrity. Oh, well, perhaps miracles will happen, and they will "walk on water."! In Christ, John "I don't always agree with him, but, I must admit, he has a certain charm in stating the obvious" Whalen

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________________ Wayne "... hast spoken well,"...hast well said..."(Exodus 10:29,John 4:17). (bold is my emphasis) “And, behold, there arose a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep. And his disciples came to him, and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish. And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm. But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!” Mt. 8:24-27 “And there arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full. And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish? And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm. And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith? And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him?” Mark 4:37-41 "“Now it came to pass on a certain day, that he went into a ship with his disciples: and he said unto them, Let us go over unto the other side of the lake. And they launched forth. But as they sailed he fell asleep: and there came down a storm of wind on the lake; and they were filled with water, and were in jeopardy. And they came to him, and awoke him, saying, Master, master, we perish. Then he arose, and rebuked the wind and the raging of the water: and they ceased, and there was a calm. And he said unto them, Where is your faith? And they being afraid wondered, saying one to another, What manner of man is this! for he commandeth even the winds and water, and they obey him. “ Luke 8:22-25 Compare with Exodus 14:21–Moses as a “type” of the Lord Jesus Christ: “And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the LORD caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided.” Exodus 14:21 "“O give thanks unto the LORD, for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever…..He maketh the storm a calm, so that the waves thereof are still.” Psalms 107:1, 29). “He causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings for the rain; he bringeth the wind out of his treasuries.” Psalms 135:7 ________________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________ “But the ship was now in the midst of the sea, tossed with waves: for the wind was contrary. And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea. And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear. But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid. And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water. And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus. But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me. And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt? And when they were come into the ship, the wind ceased.”Matthew 14:24-32 “And he saw them toiling in rowing; for the wind was contrary unto them: and about the fourth watch of the night he cometh unto them, walking upon the sea, and would have passed by them. But when they saw him walking upon the sea, they supposed it had been a spirit, and cried out: For they all saw him, and were troubled. And immediately he talked with them, and saith unto them, Be of good cheer: it is I; be not afraid. And he went up unto them into the ship; and the wind ceased: and they were sore amazed in themselves beyond measure, and wondered.” Mark 6:48:51 “And the sea arose by reason of a great wind that blew. So when they had rowed about five and twenty or thirty furlongs, they see Jesus walking on the sea, and drawing nigh unto the ship: and they were afraid.” John 6:18-19 Compare with: “Then Job answered and said, I know it is so of a truth: but how should man be just with God?... Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.” Job 9:1, 2, 8 “Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? “ Proverbs 30:4 I can "tell", and will answer: The Lord Jesus Christ is “his son’s name”, and the Lord Jesus Christ is God. And everyone, one day, will humbled themselves, and will acknowledge this fact, as it is written: “Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. “ Philippians 2:5-11 In and with Christ, In the Lord, John M. Whalen

(bold is my emphasis) The number one attribute of God in the Bible( contrary to what this Christ-rejecting world thinks) is not His love(even though God is love), but His Holiness, also expressed as righteousness and justice. That this Holiness is foundational to God's character is a "running theme" throughout the Bible-perhaps Psalms 97:2 summarizes this theme: "Clouds and darkness are round about him: righteousness and judgment are the habitation of his throne." God's righteousness loves and demands perfect "goodness", and His justice hates sin and demands its full punishment(propitiation=satisfaction). Bad news for sinful man-The prospects of man meeting a just and Holy God are not pleasant-David echoes this fear/dread when he says: " And enter not into judgment with thy servant: for in thy sight shall no man living be justified." God's Holiness means He is unapproachable by sinful man. Now I understand the meaning of Exodus 3:5: "And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground." =do not come near me=keep away=no trespassing=keep your distance=God's Holiness separates Him from the sinner(spiritual death is thus separation from God). This thought is also expressed in Ex. 19:9-12, 20-21=the presence of God in His Holiness was not an invitation to approach, but a warning to stay away!("whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death"-sound familiar?-"thou shalt surely die." (Gen 2:17) Good News-The Lord Jesus Christ as our substitute("died for our sins" 1 Cor 15:3 and others) satisfying God's justice. "All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all." Is. 53:6 Notice "all" is the first and last word of this verse. Spiritual application=The verse begins by stating the universal condition of sinfulness, and ends by stating the universal provision of the Lord Jesus Christ's substitutionary death. "What a book!", the Holy Bible, all about the Lord Jesus Christ- "what a Saviour"! Also notice per Eph. 2:8,9 that the basis/grounds for salvation is grace, not love. God's love will not save anyone! God cannot "love anyone into heaven"-His justice, His Holiness, demands that he "do something" about the sin issue-and that he did by sending His Son to die in my/your place. Love is the motivation, not the basis! And that is why all this "my God is a God of love and would never send anyone to hell" is misguided-"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge"(Hosea 4:6). In Christ, John M. Whalen

______________ "Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied(my emphasis)." Proverbs 27:20 In and with Christ, John M. Whalen

ALL very wise advice from John "I know more than I let on but my humility won't allow me to boast" Whalen, a true professional... ...EXCEPT item #10. Auburn University would be a good investment at this point because they are undervalued in the market. Even though their football program is in the toilet right now, I expect it will rebound within one year. We will be like Alabama (spit spit)...to go from being unranked to winning a National Championship all in one year. At least it better OR Coach Tuberville is history. _____- As Brother Wayne "What, me worry(Alfred E. Neumam) about Auburn" knows, and would agree, the only "expert" that ever walked "...this present evil world..."(Galatians 1:4) is this great Saviour of ours, the Lord Jesus Christ; and He is the definition of humility, as it is written: "And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled(my emphasis) himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." Philippians 2:8 " I expect it will rebound within one year...." My witty, firm, and yet quite condescending, but, at the same time, quite insightful comment: That is the exact statement I heard, say, approximately 2 weeks ago in the Chicago Tribube Sports Section re. that "professional"(loosely used here)team called The Chicago Cubs. Or was that the coach of the Washington Generals? " We will be like Alabama (spit spit)...to go from being unranked" My uncompromising, terse, edifying, at, at the same time, realistic, biting comment: "Translation" of "unranked": overrated, overpaid, over-hyped,and over-fed " At least it better OR Coach Tuberville is history " My underrated, precise, quite alarming, and yet, at the same time, quite charming response: "Kinda like" Lehman Brother brokers?(ouch!) And speaking of Lehman Brothers, what did they and Auburn University(again, loosely employed here) have in common in early September? Answer: They were both obious "short sales." In and with Christ, John "someone must have said it, or I wouldn't have printed it."

___________________ "do you think that buying stocks is gambling?" I suggest you look at the chart of the Dow Jones Industrial Average, starting in the early 1920's, and consider the depression also. You may be surprised. Or, if you would want more recent data, consider that the Dow was in the mid 750 range in August of 1982, and the 1200 range in 1984(when I started in the business). Perhaps this is "gambling", perhaps not. But ask yourself this question: If you are earning 2% or so in an interest bearing account, and prices rise each year at a 3/4% rate, is this not gambling, i.e. inflation/purchasing power risk? Remember: There are always economic problems in each economic environment-they are just different. In Christ, John M. Whalen

No more than "investing" in an education and expecting a good return could be considered gambling. My #1 key to investment is diversification. I invest in solid equities, high-yield bonds, low-risk mutual funds and gold as a hedge investment. The more diversified your investments are, the better protected you are. By the way, I give George Whitten credit for pushing me to buy gold...back when it was $600 an ounce. My #2 key is patience. Folks who play too much with their investments tend to lose big. Don't be greedy and don't be faint hearted. You have to hang in there and let your investment strategy work...especially if you are a novice like me. The stock market has lost 41% of its value this year, I think, and my portfolio is down about 16% give or take a few points...so my strategy seems to work. BUT I also believe what Donald Trump once said is good advice... YOUR home is your best and most important investment. In my humble opinion, if you do not own your own home and you are working with limited funds, buy a house before you invest in the market or gold. I don't mean 100% but buy a house with a mortage that you can easily afford with a fixed rate and a payment that doesn't exceed 25% of your take home. That's just my opinion. Hope it helps, wayne...a friend of John "the expert on everything and my old friend" Whalen ____ Sound advice from "Looking good, Billy Ray Wayne(revised)" "Feelin' good, Lewis Whalen(revised)" Although I am not an "expert", Iv'e been in the financial services industry for 24 years. Perhaps the following additional "tips"(besides "buy low/sell high"!) to Wayne's would be helpful: 1. Consider: Do you go to the store when they raise prices, or when there is a sale? 2. Make investment decisions based on your situation, considering your goals, your objectives, your time frame, and your risk tolerance, not "the market's". 3. Greed and fear drive prices short term; fundamentals drive it long term(and long term is not buying after breakfast, and selling after lunch). 4. Do not "fall in love" with any investment 5. Regardless of the merits of an investment, do not own it if you are "loosing sleep" over it, i.e., "peace of mind." 6. Usually, the best time to invest is when you feel "uneasy" about, i.e., and this is typically when there are many "scary" headlines in the press, prices are low(relatively), which is the case now in the fall of 2008. Usually The worse time to invest is when most are optimistic-prices are relatively high. That is, the worst time to invest is usually when you feel "comfortable", because this is the time when most others are "comfortable", and prices have been "bid" up to reflect that optimism. 7. Don't "buy headlines"- remember that "bad news" sells. Try to avoid "reacting" to what some "investment guru" said on TV. That is, anticipate, don't react. 8. Know what you own, and why you own an it. If it goes down, and "the story" has not changed, consider the drop a a gift, and consider owning more. 9. Dollar cost average-you do not need an MBA for this. 10. Do not buy any stock, private and/or public, associated with Auburn University. It is overvalued and due for a "crash"(kidding, here! Ask Wayne if he concurs) In and with Christ, In the Lord John "buy the Missouri Tigers-it is going up" Whalen

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_ man, Grow up and act like a man-1 Samuel 4:9, 1 Cor. 16:13. In Christ, John M. Whalen

I have not denied PRESERVATION, I have denied your incorrect view of it. please do if that will make you happy _____________ "I have not denied PRESERVATION, I have denied your incorrect view of it." No, you have denied the LORD God's view of it. I merely quoted scripture, citing that preservation of the word of God is based on the infalliblity of the word itself. You deny this. You said that there is no w/o error word of God as a present possession today. Show me, chapter and verse, as I have continually asked, and you have continually punted, where the preserved word of God can be considered the word of God with errors. Show us from "the word pf God", which you still have not identified. "Thy word is true from the beginning(emphasis mine): and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever." Psalms 119:160

The Word of God is the Bible I posses. It is translated in different ways, but it is still the word of God and the meaning of it has not changed one bit. My comment: The spin/meltdown of a Bible corrector inevitably continues. What is "The Word of God" you possess The "originals"? A "version"? A "translation? IDENTIFY IT. I am not correcting the Word of God, I am showing you where the humans either making copies or translating it made mistakes. God did nto make them and thye dont change the meeaning of anything. My comment: 1.And just how do you know that "humans either making copies or translating it made mistakes.", if you do not have the infallible standard to which to compare these alleged mistakes to? If you contend that only "the originals" are w/o error, how do you know that the copies/translations are in error, if you do not have the originals to which to compare them? 2,. Ever heard of the concept of PRESERVATION, in which God used fallible men to preserve his word w/o error?=COPYING, and COPIES. Scripture always refers to COPIES transcribed by fallible men. "The originals" were written by men, were they not? 3. "change the meaning"????? The objective words are inspired, not "the meaning." "The meaning" is a subjective judgment. "and YES I can Can you INFALLIBLY PROVE that the KJB has errors, and I have done so with the verses that I posted. It is not possible for Ahaziah to be both 22 and 42 when he became king. That is INFALLIBLE PROOF!" No, that is your subjective, FALLIBLE assessment of "your truth". Hundreds of articles have been written arguing for the objective words given by the KJB here that contradicts your judgment-very plausible, coherent expositions. But this is "besides the point." You lie when you say you are not correcting the word of God. "="The word means what I say it means"="Alice in Wonderland." You are submitting the objective words of scripture to your faulty, subjective, fallible judgment. Are you saying you are infallible in your subjective interpretation/assessment/judgment? Yes or no. By your argument, It is not possible(your words"t to have a resurrection, have miracles........ ".It is not possible" Thanks for defining and demonstrating the biblical principle of UNBELIEF. In Christ, John M. Whalen dude, you have long since stopped making any sense. This has nothing to do with resurrection or miracles or any such thing. you are putting words into my mouth to deflect the fact that you have no leg to stand on. An honest man could and would admit that it is clear that one of these verses are in error because it is not possible for someone to 22 and 42 at the same moment. that does not mean there cant be resurrection or miracles, it means that it there was a copy error somewhere down the line. this does not take one little thing away from God as his meaning and purpose still come out. __ No, "dude", you continue to mistake your lack of logical comprehension skills with error on the part of what I wrote. Please answer the above questions, such as "are you infallible"? Do you make infallible interpretations? Again, answer the above. Are you saying you are infallible in your subjective interpretation/assessment/judgment? Yes or no. 1.And just how do you know that "humans either making copies or translating it made mistakes.", if you do not have the infallible standard to which to compare these alleged mistakes to? If you contend that only "the originals" are w/o error, how do you know that the copies/translations are in error, if you do not have the originals to which to compare them? 2,. Ever heard of the concept of PRESERVATION, in which God used fallible men to preserve his word w/o error?=COPYING, and COPIES. Scripture always refers to COPIES transcribed by fallible men. "The originals" were written by men, were they not? 3. "change the meaning"????? The objective words are inspired, not "the meaning." "The meaning" is a subjective judgment. "The Word of God is the Bible I posses. It is translated in different ways, but it is still the word of God and the meaning of it has not changed one bit."=your own on record statement What is "The Word of God" you possess? The "originals"? A "version"? A "translation? IDENTIFY IT. So, the "word of God"(whatever that is-you still have not identified it in any post) can have errors, " "but it is still the word of God "(your words)??? Scripture says this. does it? NO it does not. The word of God, if it is to be correctly understood and called the word of God, is perfect-no errors. Who is scripturally correct here, sir? "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them" Isaiah 8:20. In Christ, John M. Whalen

___________- And please let me know when you will be on "Donahue" with your opinions. Thanks for your assertion that I just have never seen in print before. Am I being too sarcastic? And please let me know when you will be on "Donahue" with your opinions. Thanks for your assertion that I just have never seen in print before. Am I being too sarcastic? There! I only said it twice! I am improving on my tendency to be redundant! Who said "you learn by repetiton"? Wouldn't be in "the" Bible, would it? NAH! In Christ, John M. Whalen

are insults all that you have left? what you are saying makes no sense to anyone on this board, I am even betting it makes no sense to you. I am done with this. ___ And why do you insult the LORD God by denying PRESERVATION?. Would you like me to post the insults you have written"my man."? In Christ, John M. Whalen

_________ I have a novel idea: don't read them, or go back to reading your "Readers Digest Condensed Version of 'the' Bible(s)". How is that for being "concise" or "succinct" ? In Christ, John M. Whalen.

so your answer is that this is a miracle? that it is a miracle that at the very same time Solomon had 250 officers and 550 officers? this is the best you can do? I guess it is a miracle also that one person could be 22 and 42 at the very same time? It seems that we are done here, you have "jumped the shark" as they say! ________ Kids don't understand the logic of argumentation. Again, prove the doctrine of resurrection, prove the doctrine of miraclrs. with EVIDENCE. After all, they are "not possible." You are in a logical fallacy trap(I don't expect kids like yourself to understand this) Are you INFALLIBLE in your "interpretation"? Are you a "pope"?Do you understand the difference between OBJECTIVE REVELATION and SUBJECTIVE INTERPRETATION/ASSESSMENT?(rhetorical question, given your answers-loosely used here)... In Christ, John M. Whalen

The Word of God is the Bible I posses. It is translated in different ways, but it is still the word of God and the meaning of it has not changed one bit. My comment: The spin/meltdown of a Bible corrector inevitably continues. What is "The Word of God" you possess The "originals"? A "version"? A "translation? IDENTIFY IT. I am not correcting the Word of God, I am showing you where the humans either making copies or translating it made mistakes. God did nto make them and thye dont change the meeaning of anything. My comment: 1.And just how do you know that "humans either making copies or translating it made mistakes.", if you do not have the infallible standard to which to compare these alleged mistakes to? If you contend that only "the originals" are w/o error, how do you know that the copies/translations are in error, if you do not have the originals to which to compare them? 2,. Ever heard of the concept of PRESERVATION, in which God used fallible men to preserve his word w/o error?=COPYING, and COPIES. Scripture always refers to COPIES transcribed by fallible men. "The originals" were written by men, were they not? 3. "change the meaning"????? The objective words are inspired, not "the meaning." "The meaning" is a sujjective judgment. "and YES I can Can you INFALLIBLY PROVE that the KJB has errors, and I have done so with the verses that I posted. It is not possible for Ahaziah to be both 22 and 42 when he became king. That is INFALLIBLE PROOF!" No, that is your subjective, FALLIBLE assessment of "your truth". Hundreds of articles have been written arguing for the objective words given by the KJB here that contradicts your judgment-very plausible, coherent expositions. But this is "besides the point." You lie when you say you are not correcting the word of God. "="The word means what I say it means"="Alice in Wonderland." You are submitting the objective words of scripture to your faulty, subjective, fallible judgment. Are you saying you are infallible in your subjective interpretation/assessment/judgment? Yes or no. By your argument, It is not possible(your words"t to have a resurrection, have miracles........ ".It is not possible" Thanks for defining and demonstrating the biblical principle of UNBELIEF. In Christ, John M. Whalen