On 4/2/2018 at 11:35 PM, Abby-Joy said:

Your definition of a man is not what women want... yes, women want their men to be men, and display strength, but not domineering and controlling freaks nor to be treated like a child.... I'd never come near a "man" like that with a 1000ft pole, nor would I allow them near my children. 

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On 9/16/2017 at 10:45 PM, frienduff thaylorde said:

the moment she was conceived.   that sounds like something similar I heard said by a catholic.

that the virgin mary actually had a different type of flesh due to it had to be holy to hold the Lord.    That seems rather strange don't it.

considering the LORD himself was made in the same likness of flesh we all were. WHY would mary then have to be a different flesh.

this sounds like worship of mary, rather than Christ  to me.   Come now all of us.  Mary was same flesh as we all are.   She was chosen by OUR LORD

thus we should call her blessed in all generations.   BUT,   this don't mean we pray to her like some do.  

I agree 100 percent that it is Mary that is being lifted up instead of Christ right from the start in the OP. Mary was not God in flesh but it was Jesus that God made flesh.  Mary had the sin nature from Adam just as every one born into the world has been and are a slave to sin and death has passed upon all the human race.  I can read the Word of God and can see where Mary didn't escape the wages of sin as she died a physical death she had no immaculate flesh.  Mary was already a believer she wasn't suddenly born again as the OP is saying.  Instead you see Mary keeping the law of God as she took Jesus to the temple to have him circumcised on the 8th day as was required by the law.  Mary knew God and worshiped him as her Creator maker of heaven and earth.  Mary did not die on the cross for our sins she was no sacrifice nor did she give of her body to be slain on the cross for the sins of mankind.  No instead it was Jesus who was God in flesh an earthly mother but a Heavenly Father.  Mary was just a humble servant to the will of God like Moses and so many others that could be named nothing Immaculate about there earthly flesh.  All bodies are simply a house which the Spirit of God abides.

4 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

Lucifer is referred to as 'he' in the Bible.  

Promotion is of the Lord may He grant you His favor and open doors that no man can shut. blessings 

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Keep reading and studying the bible for the scriptures are able to make you wise.

5 hours ago, HAZARD said:

Now your twisting my words; You said;

So you believe that a person who commits suicide cannot be forgiven at all?  

I replied;

"What I believe is irrelevant. What God's Word says is to believed."

I see you only quoted part of my last post, why is that?, does the truth get in the way of your thoughts on the matter.

Why are you putting so much effort in trying to prove murderers go to Heaven?

"Murder is sin, suicide is self murder, God says;

Exodus 32:33, And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.

If God means what He says when He says what he means, this sounds fairly straight forward, cut and dried to me."

You say, "One thing I have learned through the years is that I am not a mind reader of the thoughts and intents that are in another persons heart."

I never ever said I was a mind reader either.  What I do say is, I can read God Word which clearly teaches, murder is sin, and that makes self murder a sin as well.  I also gave two definite scriptures which show where men committed suicide and their names were blotted out of God's book.  

Rev 21:8, But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and MURDERERS, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Can you show just one Scripture which says murderers will enter Heaven?

If you cannot handle the truth of the Word of God concerning murder, murderers, and self murder, and want to have the last word on this, go ahead.

Thanks for the last word   that was easy.  

20 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

What I believe is irrelevant. What God's Word says is to believed. I have given two cases where men have taken their own lives and God had their names removed from His book.

As for your thoughts on the matter, anyone who attempts to take their own life, say, slashes their wrist and lives, that's another story, they are alive and they can therefore repent.

Jump off a high cliff and repent on the way down is like robbing a bank and asking God for forgiveness while you do it.

What you believe is very "relevant".  Because it is what you are teaching others in your post.  If what you believe is irrelevant as you say that it is, then why are you putting so much effort in trying to prove what you are saying is the truth.  When it comes to the book of life there will be many who think their names are still in the book of life but will be shocked.  There are those in the world perhaps those in your stories may find their names are still in the book of life.  One thing I have learned through the years is that I am not a mind reader of the thoughts and intents that are in another persons heart.  I don't know every thought and therefore I am disqualified to judge those who do think of committing suicide nor to judge the souls of those who have committed suicide and died from it.  If you want to stand as a judge, jurer and prosecution of those who commit suicide without having all the facts.  It's possible you in return will be judged likewise in the same way by God.  I would caution that giving heed to one's own name being removed would be in order.

On 7/13/2017 at 8:41 PM, HAZARD said:

God forgives all sins past when confessed. He cannot forgive self murder after the fact.

So you believe that a person who commits suicide cannot be forgiven at all?  Perhaps a person commits suicide and doesn't die a quick death and while waiting to die the person begins to be sorrowful during that time period and asks for forgiveness.  But still the person dies as a result of suicide by his own hand.  No one can really see what goes on within the heart of another except by God the judge of us all, as He alone knows the secret intents of our hearts

4 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

If anyone would ever bow down to an angel they would say " Do not do that".

Yes the angels themselves would give warning not to worship them.  For they themselves are a created being of God, but they are not God, only his ministering spirits sent forth on God's behalf.

On 4/9/2017 at 6:59 PM, zorgblar said:

If an angel would appear to you in their pure form would it be scary or beautiful? 

Personally I would be more concerned about entertaining angels unawares which can come to us in any form, than being concerned about the angels pure form being scary or beautiful.  What difference does it make?

5 hours ago, ruck1b said:

I saw a question that I would like to ask here.  I'm sort of paraphrasing it.

 

If God didn't give us the spirit of fear , but of power, love and a sound mind, why do we make such a big deal out of the number 666?

There is such a thing as a healthy fear and it is good to have.

7 hours ago, zorgblar said:

In acts 23:6-9 what does the word spirit mean?

Acts 23:6-9 - But when Paul percieved that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council,  Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.  And when he had so said, there arose a dissension between the Pharisees and the Sadducees:  and the multitude was divided.  For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit:  but the Pharisees confess both.  And there arose a great cry:  and the scribes that were of the Pharisees' part rose, and strove, saying, We find no evil in this man:  but if a spirit or angel hath spoken to him, let us not fight against God (the whole text should be Acts 22:30-23:1-11)

Paul had been brought down before the Sanhedrin and earnestly standing before them began to say to them that he lived with a good conscious before God until that day.  Ananias who was the high priest there commanded those who stood by Paul to smite him in his mouth for saying he was not guilty of breaking the law.  Then Paul spoke back to Ananias and said God would smite him and then called him a whited wall because he sat in the council to judge him after the law and commanded that he be smitten for saying he was innocent of breaking the law.  Those that was around Paul told him Revilest thou God's high priest, speaking of Ananias.  Paul then said I wist not brethren that he was the high priest: for it is written Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.

Paul came to realize in the midst of this that one part of the council before him was part Sadducees and the other part of the council were Pharisees.  Whenever Paul realized that he cried or yelled out in the council that he himself was a Pharisee, he was the son of a Pharisee who believed also in the hope of the resurrection of the dead and for that belief he was called in for question. 

Of course that caused a stir between the two groups as well as the rest of the crowd there.  The Sadducess believed that there was no resurrection, neither believed in the spirits of angels nor did they believe that we have a spirit living within our fleshly body.  They don't believe in the bodily resurrection or spirits of any kind.   The Pharisees on the other hand did believe in both the bodily resurrection and in the spirits of angels and people.

When the word "spirit" is used in verse 8 it is referring to the spirit of a person or the life of a person.

We are made up of body soul and spirit.  

On 2/6/2017 at 0:12 AM, forGod1 said:

I don't trust anyone that denies evolution anymore. I also know that Noah's Ark didn't happen, and I can prove it.

-How many insects were maintained by the pair by that many people?
-All of the fossils found today were alive at once, 6000 years ago, and fit on the ark?
-How did they build the habitats for polar bears, frogs, etc.?
-Why isn't there one fossil collaborating the flood?
-How did they survive there and back?
-How did they get there and back? How isn't there a fossil outside their respective habitats?
-How many people did all this?
-What did carnivores even eat? Certainly not the other animals on their journys back? And they were back what did carnivores eat once their food sources reproduced to sustainable levels? lol
-Light wouldn't have reached deep enough to reach the vegetation. Once the ark rested, how would the animals/insects whatever survived waiting for seeds to spring forth everything?
-Dinosaurs were just forgotten?
-Why are all fossils buried according to evolution? Why isn't there a layer of fossils collaborating the flood?
-And salt water/fresh water mixing - ever notice that sea creatures are actually not all extinct?
-How did they store the meat for food? How did the vegetation not rot up?
-There wouldn't have been enough room on the ark for two giraffes to eat for that long.

News flash, all of your questions do not prove one thing.  I'm a Christian because I believe in my Creator.  Who caused a literally flood to happen during Noah's time here on earth.  Which Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord as he and his family being 8 souls were saved in the ark saved from the death of the flood.   Reading one's bible with faith instead of unbelief would make a believer to see the truth given to us in scripture themselves that God started over again the human race with 8 souls that he saved on the ark being Noah and his family members.  Evolution is against what the scriptures teach and is a flat outright lie from this acclaimed Catholic in the OP. 

On 3/17/2017 at 1:07 AM, Sight said:

I will post both sets of verses here:

Leviticus 26: 3-13 New King James Version (NKJV)

Promise of Blessing and Retribution

³ ‘If you walk in My statutes and keep My commandments, and perform them,

⁴ then I will give you rain in its season, the land shall yield its produce, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit.

⁵ Your threshing shall last till the time of vintage, and the vintage shall last till the time of sowing;

you shall eat your bread to the full, and dwell in your land safely.

⁶ I will give peace in the land, and you shall lie down, and none will make you afraid;

I will rid the land of evil beasts,

and the sword will not go through your land.

⁷ You will chase your enemies, and they shall fall by the sword before you.

⁸ Five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight;

your enemies shall fall by the sword before you.

⁹ ‘For I will look on you favorably and make you fruitful, multiply you and confirm My covenant with you.

¹⁰ You shall eat the old harvest, and clear out the old because of the new.

¹¹ I will set My tabernacle among you, and My soul shall not abhor you.

¹² I will walk among you and be your God, and you shall be My people.

¹³ I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that you should not be their slaves;

I have broken the bands of your yoke and made you walk upright.

 

 

And the next set:

Leviticus 26:14-45 New King James Version (NKJV)

¹⁴ ‘But if you do not obey Me, and do not observe all these commandments,

¹⁵ and if you despise My statutes, or if your soul abhors My judgments, so that you do not perform all My commandments, but break My covenant,

¹⁶ I also will do this to you:

I will even appoint terror over you, wasting disease and fever which shall consume the eyes and cause sorrow of heart.

And you shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.

¹⁷ I will set My face against you, and you shall be defeated by your enemies.

Those who hate you shall reign over you, and you shall flee when no one pursues you.

¹⁸ ‘And after all this, if you do not obey Me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.

¹⁹ I will break the pride of your power;

I will make your heavens like iron and your earth like bronze.

²⁰ And your strength shall be spent in vain;

for your land shall not yield its produce, nor shall the trees of the land yield their fruit.

²¹ ‘Then, if you walk contrary to Me, and are not willing to obey Me, I will bring on you seven times more plagues, according to your sins.

²² I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, destroy your livestock, and make you few in number;

and your highways shall be desolate.

²³ ‘And if by these things you are not reformed by Me, but walk contrary to Me,

²⁴ then I also will walk contrary to you, and I will punish you yet seven times for your sins.

²⁵ And I will bring a sword against you that will execute the vengeance of the covenant;

when you are gathered together within your cities I will send pestilence among you;

and you shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy.

²⁶ When I have cut off your supply of bread, ten women shall bake your bread in one oven, and they shall bring back your bread by weight, and you shall eat and not be satisfied.

²⁷ ‘And after all this, if you do not obey Me, but walk contrary to Me,

²⁸ then I also will walk contrary to you in fury;

and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.

²⁹ You shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters.

³⁰ I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars, and cast your carcasses on the lifeless forms of your idols;

and My soul shall abhor you.

³¹ I will lay your cities waste and bring your sanctuaries to desolation, and I will not smell the fragrance of your sweet aromas.

³² I will bring the land to desolation, and your enemies who dwell in it shall be astonished at it.

³³ I will scatter you among the nations and draw out a sword after you;

your land shall be desolate and your cities waste.

³⁴ Then the land shall enjoy its sabbaths as long as it lies desolate and you are in your enemies’ land;

then the land shall rest and enjoy its sabbaths.

³⁵ As long as it lies desolate it shall rest—

for the time it did not rest on your sabbaths when you dwelt in it.

³⁶ ‘And as for those of you who are left, I will send faintness into their hearts in the lands of their enemies;

the sound of a shaken leaf shall cause them to flee;

they shall flee as though fleeing from a sword, and they shall fall when no one pursues.

³⁷ They shall stumble over one another, as it were before a sword, when no one pursues;

and you shall have no power to stand before your enemies.

³⁸ You shall perish among the nations, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up.

³⁹ And those of you who are left shall waste away in their iniquity in your enemies’ lands;

also in their fathers’ iniquities, which are with them, they shall waste away.

⁴⁰ ‘But if they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers, with their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, and that they also have walked contrary to Me,

⁴¹ and that I also have walked contrary to them and have brought them into the land of their enemies;

if their uncircumcised hearts are humbled, and they accept their guilt—

⁴² then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember;

I will remember the land.

⁴³ The land also shall be left empty by them, and will enjoy its sabbaths while it lies desolate without them;

they will accept their guilt, because they despised My judgments and because their soul abhorred My statutes.

⁴⁴ Yet for all that, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, nor shall I abhor them, to utterly destroy them and break My covenant with them;

for I am the Lord their God.

⁴⁵ But for their sake I will remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the nations, that I might be their God:

I am the Lord.’”

 

As a born-again Christian, I understand this to be "In Jesus" and "Not in Jesus". Basically, Christ is the fulfillment of the law, and by not being in Christ, calamity falls upon me.

The word seems to be telling me...I dont think I have truly accepted Jesus Christ. Either that, or I did accept him, but for some reason, my heart never changed. How should I understand these verses?

 

I would suggest you read the entire book of Ecclesiastes.  It is a short book of just twelve chapters which gives a conclusion at the end of it that I believe will give you some clarity in the vein in which you are seeking.  blessings

6 minutes ago, Jewels7 said:

That is an openly false accusation. 

 

You openly disagreed with scripture that said our righteous are as filthy rags and defended your opposition by saying every word in the bible are not the actual words of God Himself.

You said men were just inspired to write insinuating some of their comments were personal thoughts.

1 hour ago, Jewels7 said:

Not even Bible scholars argue that God used his own finger to write the Bible.  
God inspired the Bible! Men and councils convened to create the books of the Bible. God is perfect. If you believe in the inerrancy of the  Bible then you must believe in the first Bible that had 72 books. Not 66. 

 

That is not even correct.  The Bible always had 66 books.  But the original KJV bible included 14 of the apocrypha books in the middle, and were never considered fully scripture.  The original KJV bible had 80 books and 14 books were not part of the 66 books of the cannon.  You are reducing the cannon down to inspired messages that contain elements of truth but are not perfect.  You have even opposed the Bible itself as being truth.  

6 hours ago, Jewels7 said:

I don't think it fruitful for any Christian to imagine themselves like unto scum of the earth in God's sight. 

My righteousness is due to God's grace. I don't see it as like unto filthy rags when it is a gift of my father. I think many Christians fail when they think men's narratives in scripture are actually God's words.  That the whole book cover to cover is Gods writing and not at all a reflection of the politic of the time, the cultural influences, etc.... 

I've attended services where Christians in chorus recite the self=deprecating mantra: Oh, Lord, though we know we're not worthy.....

What nonsense is that? God imagined we were worthy of dying for in the flesh as the son of man. All set into motion because God in his graceful way decided to show mercy to the human community that he damned in the beginning for the first mistake the first of us made. And we chant to Heaven we're not worthy of all that Jesus suffered to bring God's new covenant to earth? 
 

To each their own. 
It is a relationship after all.  

Romans 3:23 - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.

Isaiah 64:6 - But we are "all" as an unclean thing and "all" our righteousness are as "filthy rags;" and we "all" do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.  

One can err not knowing the scripture or believing them.

I choose to believe in the inerrancy of the word of God.  Which is freedom from error or untruths and infallibility. 

We here at Worthy Boards believe in the inerrancy  of the 66 books of the cannon.

At least you were being honest, in quoting that you however, do not believe in the inerrancy of scripture.       

7 hours ago, Jewels7 said:

Don't we have to believe in sin first before we can accept we're not worthy of living because of it? 

Yes, but  you have to know, what is sin?...to determine your guilt or innocence.  Let me say also that we all have fallen short of God's righteousness and even at our best our righteousness is as filthy rages.

There were no laws given except one in the garden which was not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.  Of course Adam disobeyed that one law, thus death passed upon all men that would ever be born into this world from that time forward.  Everyone born into this world would also be born with a sin nature dead spiritually toward God a slave to sin.

Adam was expelled from the garden of Eden and it's location is now unknown.  From the fall in the garden up until the time of the Old Covenant law of Moses was given.  There were no laws of God given in which to obey or disobey.

When the law of Moses was finally given then there was knowledge of what sin was and if you broke God's laws you became guilty of sin.  The law became our schoolmaster showing and teaching mankind what sin was.

Hence from the time from Adam in the garden up till the time of the giving of the law of Moses.  There was no law in which to be guilty as scripture is teaching in....

Romans 5:13 - for until the law...sin was in the world...but sin is not imputed...when there is no law.

In other words sin was already in this world before the law of Moses was given from Adam diobedience.  Because there was no laws given of any kind for mankind to obey or disobey, from the particular time period from Adam unto the giving of the Law of Moses.  Sin could not be charged against them in any way if they didn't have the law telling them what was sin.  All that changed when God gave to Moses the very laws the children of Israel were to obey.  If they then disobeyed then it would be charged to their account.

On 11/21/2015 at 5:45 AM, Pamelasv said:

1 Romans 5:13

'for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.' 

Well, what do you think of this?  I am thinking of God judging all those nations who didn't have the law.  Not sure what he means by this. 

Sin and temptation entered into the world for the first time when Adam ate of the fruit from the forbidden tree he was warned not to eat of it, and the day he did he would surely die, being a physical death.  Both disobedience (sin, breaking God's law) and death entered into the world from the time of the fall in the garden up until the Law had even been given yet by Moses.  From the fall in the garden up unto the Law had been given, both sin and death had entered the world and was abounding, growing more and more increasing in this world.

But during that time period up until the Law of Moses was given sin could not be imputed within a person because there was no Law in which to hold a person accountable for there sin they committed.  No one knew what sin was until the law was given by Moses telling us what sin was and it's consequences.  Once the Law of Moses was put in place then people could be held accountable for their sins as they follow and practiced what was in the Law of Moses.  When the law of Moses was then put in place all one had to do to obtain righteous or have it imputed to your account was to keep and practice what was in the Law of Moses.

Abraham believed God by faith and it was imputed unto him as righteousness.  But you have to remember that God made a covenant with Abraham before the Law or old covenant ever came into existence.  Since God had a covenant with Abraham by faith before the Law was given.  The Old Covenant Law did not disannul the covenant promise God made with Abraham.  It was through Abraham's seed (Jesus Christ) would come into the world as Saviour bringing in a new and better covenant with better promises and all one has to do is call on the name of the Lord and believe by faith and the righteousness of Christ will be imputed unto us as with faithful Abraham.

The thing was that the Law of Moses never could make one righteous on the inside nor take away the guilt of sin.  The Law was our Teacher until Jesus was born into this world to shed his blood on the cross as he gave (sacrificed) his own body to buy us back from the curse of the Law.  The old covenant with it's laws was never meant to make us righteous within.  There was no law that one could make up to follow and practice outwardly that could ever make one righteous by faith for it takes Christ to imput the righteousness of God within our hearts and take the guilt of our sins away. 

I don't think it will hurt anything to answer any of the questions even though they are old threads. Others are reading the answers and can learn something.  Just have to bear in mind you are not talking to the OP of the thread but instead expounding the scriptures asked about.

7 hours ago, Willa said:

2Ti 4:3  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers;  2Ti 4:4  and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.

 

The statement of faith that we all subscribed to when joining Worthy states that the 66 books of the Bible are the  complete inerrant and inspired words of God.  That is what exhaustive means.  Perhaps the people who can't subscribe to our statement of faith should bow out of the believers portion of our forums.  

"We believe that the 66 books of the Canon, from Genesis to Revelation are the exhaustive, inerrant and inspired word of God. "

Those who are unbelievers are easily deceived.  Without the enlightenment of the Holy Spirit they are unable to understand the Bible properly and they have no discernment.  So The Bible reads like Nostradamus to them--just some mystical poetry with a few words occasionally that make sense.  Most people can understand Ecclesiastes, for instance.  

So maybe the thing that keeps the Bible from becoming a living Book to others who call themselves Christians is that they aren't truly born again, so they still lack discernment.  New Christians are also easily deceived.  Once a person has swallowed the lies of satan they seem to lose the discernment and are unable to discern truth from fiction.  Such is the nature of deception.  

Most pseudoepigraphica or other spurious writing have some truth floating around in them.  For instance, the book of Mormon has parts of the King James bible word for word.  Most translations vary a little bit like the New American Standard varied from the New King James bible.  So we would expect some differences.  But Joseph Smith committed pure plagiarism.  

I haven't read the forgotten books of Eden and frankly don't want to waste my time on them.  It is bad enough that other books that are fiction have been included as Scripture in a majority of the church's bibles such as Catholic and Orthodox Bibles; such is Bell and the Dragon.  The inerrant truth is contained only in 66 books of the Bible.

 

 

 

Very well said Willa

6 hours ago, Yowm said:

This is good. It is making obvious those here who go beyond Scripture.

  This is so true.

On 1/15/2017 at 6:52 PM, warrior12 said:

It seems like a very harsh thing for a servant of God to endure, even with his [ JOB ]perfect and upright status with God.

You have to understand that Satan (the accuser of the brethren) had went to God accusing Job of only serving him because of the great wealth in which he had been given.  God knew that wasn't true about Job as he loved God and served him with his whole heart and not because of his abundant wealth.  Satan wanted to test Job to prove it to God but he couldn't because he had a hedge of protection around him to where Satan couldn't get to him.  God gave Satan permission to test Job and took the hedge of protection away from him.  Thus allowing Satan to test him and said he could do whatever he wanted but he could not take his life.  

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Do you think that men go through similar testing in this life here today?

Yes I do.  It tells us in the book of James 1 to "Count it all joy when ye fall into divers (different types) temptations..Knowing this, that the trying (testing) of your faith works patience.  It is Satan that comes to us with all kinds of temptations (testings) trying his best to get us to turn our faith from God.  All through Jobs trials and all that Satan put him through trying to get him to curse God and die he stayed true to him because he loved him.  Job knew as soon as those skin worms ate up his flesh he would see his Creator and Maker face to face.  Job not because of any of his possession but in the place of brokeness chose to keep his faith in God as he said though God slay me yet will I trust him. 

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Would God allow such testings of faith to a present day Christian or are we blessed by our Father and he would not permit such harsh trials today?

First it would be beneficial for you to read James chapter one.  As it tells us that every good and perfect gift comes down from the Father of lights.  It tells also that it is not God who tempts us or test us or puts us on trial to see if we will abandon the faith.  It is Satan who does that. 

Yes God will allow Satan to test us it could be through the death of a loved one, it could be the devastation of divorce, it could be murder, through sicknesses and diseases and it could be through many of the vast sufferings that we all know and do go through in this life that happen in this world, as Satan wants us to give up our faith in God and serve him instead through out all the different sufferings and trials we all are faced with on a day to day basis.  

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What was God main purpose of allowing this to happen and to demonstrate what exactly?

Satan was accusing Job of serving God only because of his wealth which was not true.  God wanted to demonstrate (show) Satan first hand that his false accusation toward Job was nothing but a lie.  God wanted to prove it without a doubt to Satan that Job was a righteous man and did not serve him only because of his wealth, so God allow Satan to test him.  Satan could do anything he wanted to Job except take his life from him.  In the end Satan was proved a liar as he has been from the beginning.  Sitting with nothing after Satan took all he had from him was wrong about God's servant Job as he said though God slay me yet will I trust him.  The whole time it was Satan putting him on trial for his faith in God all the sufferings he went through was to cause him to turn his back on God.  But in the end of his sufferings God restored to Job double of all that he lost.

It is no different with us today Satan still goes to God accusing the saints before God, and through our sufferings we go through what ever they may be in this life are designed for the soul purpose of getting us to turn from God.  Some people succumb to the various sufferings or testings in life whenever being put on trial by Satan and give up the faith.  Some have turned aside from God just for losing their job as they think it was God being mean to them.  But those that endure to the end shall be saved.   Apostle Paul said of his various trials and sufferings he was having to endure for the sake of the gospel that HIS grace is sufficient and the grace of God is sufficient for all that Satan is doing in our lives to destroy our faith.  But we know that the trying of our faith worketh patience.  The hardest thing for us sometimes is simply waiting on God to bring us through our suffering.  But we have an advocate (lawyer) with the Father and he is proving all the false allegations he has brought against each of us false.  

2 hours ago, warrior12 said:

Genesis 19King James Version (KJV)

⁸ Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

Lot, Abraham nephew.  I have heard numerous sermons and read articles condemning Lot in the most vilifying  and humiliating ways as to the scripture verse above.  

My question.  What do you think ?.  Was Lot a man who willing wanted to give up  his daughters up to be gang raped by the sodomites to protect two strangers he did not know or was he trying to just ease the tensions, calm things down and let his guest be unharmed.    Or do you have a different view of how you may interpret what took place there. ? 

The the two strangers that Lot was protecting were actually angels of God that had been sent to the city.  It was better in the eyes of God that a natural relationship would take place between Lot's daughter's and the men, than for an unatural relationship to take place between the angels of God and the men.  Remember Genesis 6.  The men wanted to literally abuse the angels of God all that night but Lot protected them from that unholy union.  

Scripture is pretty clear about providing for our own household as someone has already mentioned and given the scripture reference.  It matters not how much money one makes more than the other as long as your needs are being met and the bills are paid.  Certainly nothing to be fighting over.