Ancient of Days

did you want more info than that or no? if so we will have to get together... I will return tomorrow morning......... 8ish

while I dont quite understand post #35, a pole or cross or stake as I brought out earlier can contradict while still being in harmony. this is the perfect example. so the only way to make accuracy of it is to go the time and meaning of the language of the writer.....

enjoyed your thought on milk, while it has no place in comparison with proving salvation, it in itself is literally true but thats about it. you sound like the first post. you cant prove salvation to a non-believer by telling them your feelings or emotions. a better example would be more like (your post); you wont get far in court telling your story using only words as proof, words mean little and prove nothing. kind of what you said knowledge and only accurate knowledge is where to begin. the bible is the only accurate knowledge and it is a book proven even of non believers to be accurate, plus its a book, not words of feelings....

that post of the trinity an so on wasnt for yourself... but yes, that is what the nwt says... what do you make of it?

this is scripture.... I only speak scripture, nothing else can be more true. one thing to note... all proven and accepted version have been read and mean the same thing, whatever the actual wording, scholars and translators alike, unknowingly have shown these versions share the same interpretation....... what say you?

you believe in trinity? you acknowledge staros but not that Jesus was put to death on it, correct? the holy spirit isnt living in any translation, you mistake even your own translation. god and God are different, thats just common sense, that is in reverance to the fact that there are false gods... nothing more. o and sinse you bring up that subject, what does your bible say Gods name is? that above all else has been proven to be in the dead sea scrolls found by scholars. this evidense proves God has a name and its not Jesus I promise you... His name is all over the original books even before being considered for the cannon, even non-believers as well as scholars have found that Gods name is pronounced "yhwy" or "yawey" sinse there was no consonants used back then this has like many other words been translated, not changing the meaning just how its pronounced. furthermore, if his name isnt in your bible (found several times in the dead sea scrolls), maybe you should find a more accurate one. so... what is then a correct translation?

Jesus was born of the virgin mary and joseph, he died between two unrighteous men, he was resurrected in 3 days, spoke to his desciples given them a commission that is still being carried out today... make desciples of all the nations baptising them in the faith... he today is presently in his second presence reigning as king in heaven awaiting his final coming at armageddon..........

Jesus died on a staros, yes?

you simply need more insight on truth.... here... look more into translation rather than looking at what is translated. it really doesnt matter what words are used as long as they are accurate. to determine this knowledge of all translations considered is vital. what is original, its true interpretation, the language and full understanding of it are required otherwise any translation would be false due to the fact that it uses a word or words that that can either contradict as much as it can possibly agree with as is the case here... so just grasp a little more info on the origin of the languages of the writers and meaning not based on a version of the bible but the original scripture......

first.... Jesus was not put to death on a cross but a torture stake. this is accurate for many reasons, I will choose the translation sinse that is the subject in question. the greek word for staros is torture stake. staros was researched and proven to be accurately so. Jesus nor anyone for that matter could be hung up on a cross, science of the human body proves that as well....

to answer your question, no. I am not. to make a point though, the king james version is without question the most widely accepted of all, the new world translation is the same exact version only changing the older vocabulary to modern english...

only the scripture is truth. it is the only way to prove or diprove faith and anything else according to religion.... 2timothy 3:16.........

consequently then, love God more and keep the kingdom first as Jesus stressed, and "all other things will be added to you". matthew 6:33

it is in several versions... one widely accepted and accurate is new world translation since it is the king james version( proved accurate by scholars the world over) just haven the words modernized into todays english equivalent of the same interpretation according to the writers context of their writing....