AllforJesustheLord

I will address what is said better then I did. I can see why you would think that "women wearing jewelry is evil" from this, as a lot of people have. If you notice the part I bolded, the instruction is not to do away with outer beauty, but not to rely on external beauty, or rather, not let external beauty be the main focus but the inner beauty. Even the instruction in Timothy is about focus. It is too tempting for women to rely on physical attraction to be attractive to men. Paul is saying women should be attractive by character. Also, the fact that Paul had to mention "dress modestly" indicates that women back then were sressing like the young women are now - seductively. The instruction is to not dress seductively. I doubt the LORD meant for this to be an order binding us again to rules and regulations of the Law - "do not handle, do not taste, do not touch" - which Paul on many occasions instructed against as well. First in the Byzantine text the scriptures do say, do not have any jewelry. Read the KJV, you will see what the Byzantine text says, better then the other versions like N.I.V.. The point is people are not having a right spirit if they have jewelry. The focus is on the inward all the time, but the inward shows itself through actions, those if someone is not obeying God's commands, they have fruit that shows they are not. The last scripture do not handle, taste, and touch, is not regarding the understanding of these other scriptures, you are taking the scriptures out of context, if we obey God then we obey, if we disobey God they we disobey. These next scriptures are talking about when the new Jerusalem comes down from heaven, after the 1,000 year reign of Christ, when MeSHiaCH comes back, He will establish vows, again, and command doing many different parts of the Older Covenant again, until then there is no command to do that. As a matter of fact we are commanded until He comes back to not vow Christ said so, and not to wear jewelry, until He comes back, and if He will establish jewelry at that time He will, and can, yet He maybe will not, I do not know, but these commandments are for until he comes back. Yet we can do the different feasts, if we want to show love to God, and to become all things to all, and if God leads some with the purpose of establishing the temple of again this is great. A messiah must come and establish the temple again the next temple established by Zerrubabel, and YeHSHua Meshiach will establish that temple again, and the last city is the one spoken of in Rev. 21, and that would be again. The eternal covenant is eternal, but when God punished the children of Israel many times he went away from the different ways of Himself, until He choose to have mercy again, and thus when MeSHiaCH comes back is when ultimately He will have total mercy, because before He comes back Israel, in the spiritual, and in the natural, some will go astray, and that is why we see the two witnesses getting killed by some, and that is why the city again is called spiritually Sodom, and Egypt. By the way, ever read about the description of the Bride of the Lamb? QUOTE Rev. 21:9-21 Come here, I will show you the (29) bride, the wife of the Lamb." 10 And (30) he carried me away [2] (31) in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me (32) the holy city, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, 11 having (33) the glory of God. Her brilliance was like a very costly stone, as a (34) stone of (35) crystal-clear jasper. . . . 18 The material of the wall was (44) jasper; and the city was (45) pure gold, like clear (46) glass. 19 (47) The foundation stones of the city wall were adorned with every kind of precious stone. The first foundation stone was (48) jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, chalcedony; the fourth, (49) emerald; 20 the fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, (50) sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, topaz; the tenth, chrysoprase; the eleventh, jacinth; the twelfth, amethyst. 21 And the twelve (51) gates were twelve (52) pearls; each one of the gates was a single pearl. And the street of the city was (53) pure gold, like transparent (54) glass.

Which translation are you using with nearly, if it is the New King James Version, there is an addition, which is not in the Greek Byzantine Text. If you are using something other then The Byzantine Text, the minority texts, then you will be lead astray, many of the current translations use the minority texts. Christ said Mark 13:31 Heaven, and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Now if you believe in the minority text, you are believing in texts that were discovered 1800, or later, that means they were lost quite along time. If texts were lost, then they have not been around all the time, and so therefore, they do not meet up to MeSHiaCH(Christ's) standard, of being around all the time. The six Byzantine texts used to make the KJV, are the scriptures which have been around all the time, why do I know that, because God promised through His Son, His Word would last forever, so we must receive the texts used to make the KJV, the english is not perfect in the KJV, but the Greek is perfect. Why can I conclude this way, because the texts must be around all the time in succession, in order to keep the teaching Jesus taught, Mark 13:31...but my words shall not pass away. Not means never will they be lost then found again, because they will always be around. 1 Tim 2:9-15, and 1 Peter 3:1-6 must be obeyed. If they are not obeyed then the person not obeying these scriptures are going against God.

If you want to know your answer about staying married in heaven look at, Matthew 22:24-29, the woman was married, and she was not able to stay married to one of her husbands in heaven. Mark 12:25, and Luke 20:34-36.

Well if I feel Him, I will praise Him, I try to not let people know if I do, or if I do not feel Him, unless He leads me to let someone know in order to accomplish a purpose. Otherwise if I do not feel lead to let someone know, then I do what the scripture Jesus talked about not letting your one hand know what your other hand is doing so that I do not make the relation with God something that people may choose to exalt, and not God exalting, and try to pray when I need to in a secret place so no one knows except for God, and I, and so I do not get my only reward in that other people know what I do, so they might justify me, because the purpose of the commandment is love out of a pure heart.

Jesus said His Word would last forever. Mark 13:31...but my words shall not pass away. He also said He would go to everyone who is his, in the Bible, so they could, and would be saved, and come to the knowledge of the truth. His church is his church. He did not say He would establish a church which goes against His Words. God said He would set up different kingdoms, He does this to keep order even though the order is not always in God's will, so God set up the way of Catholic rule, using the government at that time also, to have order, but the order was not totally of God, and God moved on to the next ruling kingdom, and all things continue as they have from the beginning. Thus right now there is a ruling kingdom which I believe is the last, and forth kingdom, before Christ sets up His kingdom, so the Catholic church is not the true church of God, neither has it ever been the true church of God, but it was a government which was some good, and some bad, to establish the government at the time God wanted that government to be established.

oops, I forgot I do have something from graduating from something, I do not wear anymore though, but I know I should throw it away. You see regardless of the different understandings about symbols, I see in 1 Tim. 2:9-11, and 1 Peter 3:1-6 that Eloheem(God, Allah) does not want us to wear any jewelry. I know the cross has been used as an occult symbol this is another reason why I choose to not have, a cross, or wear a cross, but so is the six pointed star, and the seven pointed star, and the five pointed star, and the shield, the many symbols, and signs which police officers wear in the U.S., I think are all occult symbols, yet if we do not put importance in regular pictures I do not think this opens the door to evil spirits, but if we have jewelry, which goes against Eloheem(God), according to the scriptures, women are not to have jewelry, and also that means men are not to have jewelry. I think if we stay away from the different posible occult symbols we do well, to make sure satan does not have an open road to get into our lives.

I was with you there until you went into babylon, the beast, The whore, the false prophet and the antichrist. from my studies the beast is a nation as explained to daniel by the angel in the book of daniel. Daniel is a bit different of an understanding when you are talking about the forth beast the forth beast in daniel is a kingdom, and from that kingdom comes the antichrist, the forth kingdom is the kingdom of the antichrist, that means the kingdom which rules and reigns is the kingdom of the antichrist. Right now we view that as the U.S., because they rule, and reign, and we think, and see the antichrist will give power to the ten kings eventually. To add on to what I said before, Daniel 7:24-25 goes with Daniel 12:7, and Rev. 12:7. Daniel 7:7-8, 19-20 go with Rev. 17:12-13. Daniel 7:4-8 4 beasts, the last one is the beast, or evil kingdom the antichrist comes from. Daniel 7:19-20 The 4th has the help of the 10 kings, the 4th defeats the other 3 beasts. The horn that came out of the animals head is the antichrist, the first beast. Daniel 7:22 God comes, and defeats the 4th beast. Daniel 7:23 The 4th beast shall be the 4th kingdom. Daniel 7:24 the other horn is the antichrist. Daniel 7:26-27 ELoheem(God) winsj, and His people win. This next scripture speaks of the antichrist, the first beast. Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the ELoHeeM(God) of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god, for he shall magnify himself above all. Daniel 8:14 2,300 days is how long, that is about 7 years, this I think is where the seven years come from, I think this means for when the daily sacrifice will be started, and ended, and when the antichrist is around. The reason I believe that is. Daniel 8:13 ...the vision... for ...the daily (sacrifice), and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary, and the host... and the rest of that scripture. Daniel 11:37-45 goes with the one above, He magnifies himself, he honors the god of forces. He defeats all nations, but does not defeat Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon. I think that is where the 10 kings come from who the antichrist give power to for one hour. Rev. 13:11-18. He eventually puts his place of rule,...between the seas in the glorious KaDoSH(holy) mountain, yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him. Revelation 18:1-3 Babylon had all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication , kings of earth committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich, through her delicacies. We can see the one who besically made this happen is the U.S., at this time. Rev. 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, given unto them, and I (saw) the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of YaHuSHua(Jesus), and for the Word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received (his) mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands, and they lived, and reigned with MeSHiaCH(Christ) a thousand years. Notice here these are the ones who will live, and reign with Messiah a thousand years, no one else is going to do that. The last scripture means those who follow Him, who have thrones, and those who were ...beheaded for the witness of Yeshua(Christ), and for the Word of Eloheem(God).... Rev. 20:5-6 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This (is) the first resurrection, on such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of Eloheem(God), and of Meshiach(Christ), and shall reign with him a thousand years. The second death is after the one thousand years, the lake of fire is where the second death people go. That resurrection after the one thousand years, is also the second resurrection in this context, because the last was referred to as the first resurrection, but we know when Meshiach(Christ) rose again, so did the O.C. saints. So in this context, the second resurrection will happen after the one thousand years. I will give more information. Grace to you all, through YaHuSHia MeSHiaCH our YaHWeH(Lord), and ELoheem(God).

If you don't like the Star of David, that is your business. Don't try to convince me that there is something wrong with me and other Jews for using it. It is not that I do not like it, it is that if people are trying to obey the Older Covenant, then this is a way for them to understand the 6 pointed star, and the five pointed star, and the circle are major ways of the occult, and in old times in the O.C. no one ever used that star, it was against the O.C.. Now for me, I do not wear any jewelry at all, so I do not wear a cross either, for me it is wrong to do so, Adonai has lead me that way, nor do I have a cross, yet I talk about the cross, and what the cross has done for all of us.

I can look it up for you, and the many times believes refered to as children that is another way to say father. This understanding in Matt. 23 is for all true believers who follow God, through Jesus Christ, if they are obedient they will not have any father beside the one Father, the Father which is in heaven, they get tranfered into God's family, which means they do not have any other family. The Spiritual is always over the natural. Yet if they do have a family in the natural they are to take care of it, unless God calls them to different places, and the family can not come, then the church is to take care of them.

Yes, truly, the catholic priesthood is not from God, because they do not obey God, yet they do believe in Jesus Christ, as the son of God, so therefore eventually they will be saved, if they do not do something, where they lose there salvation.

Praise God, and His Christ with me surely, By grace through faith certainly is how we fulfill the righteous requirements of the laws of Christ, and that means we do have obedience to the faith, if we are not obedient to the faith, our faith is not alive, that means we do not have faith which works, is moved by love, we are to have faith which is moved by love, when we do we have Christ inside of us. In order to inherit God's kingdom we must do the things that are righteous, through the grace of God. 1 John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil, whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother. 1 John 3:7 ...let no man deceive you, he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of The Lord shall be saved.

Daniel 12:7, and Rev. 12:14 go together, the people of God are scattered for 2 and a half years, then all shall be finished, yet the end is not yet. Revelation 11:3 1,260 days of prophesy of the 2 witnesses. Revelation 12:6 While they prophesy the rest go to the wilderness, and are protected, 1,260 days. Daniel 12:11 shows 1,290 days, maybe that is the end of 1,260 of the above scriptures, or maybe the two witness are killed then another 30 days happens, as God starts to pour out His many judgements, upon the people who are disobedient to Him. Daniel 12:12 1,335 days is when all is over, when Christ comes, and rules, and reigns, and the beginning of the one thousand year reign starts. Revelation 11:1-2 42 months the disobedient people will hurt ELoHeeM(God's) people, and His city, and His place. Revelation 13:1-10 The beast, who is the antichrist for 42 months is given power. Revelation 11:14 shows the two witnesses die, then there is another woe, so this goes along with there will be some more time, as I explain above. Revelation 13, and 17 has much. So here is the explaination of the scriptures about Babylon, and the vision of the woman, and the beast. So the whore, then we have seen, has seven heads, which are moutains, which are authority places, for the seven kings, five are fallen, and one is, the seventh happens when the one that is gets a sword to the head Rev. 13:3,14. Then his head is healed that is the seventh, and the beast, the antichrist he is, he gets his power from satan, the dragon, and also another beast comes Rev. 13:11-18. This beast is the false prophet, who supports and helps the first person who is the beast, and the false prophet gives power to the images of the first beast, to do evil things as explained in Rev. 13:11-18. The 10 horns, are ten kings, they do not get alot of power until the beast is in power, and then sometime they have one hour of power with the beast. Remember the 10 horns do not have much power until that time, I think the 10 kings are the Arabic nations, the whore, is U.S., and somehow the beast comes from the U.S.. because the 7 kings are the ones who rule with power. Revelation 18:1-3 Babylon had all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of here fornication, kings of earth committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth, are waxed rich, through her delicacies. Revelation 18:4-19 ...Come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and ELoHeeM(God) has remembered her iniquities. Rev. 18:9...The kings of the earth who have committed fornication, and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning. Rev. 18:21-24 Babylon shall be found no more, no harpers, musicians, pipers, trumpeters, craftsman of any type, no light, not bridegroom, and bride, by your sorceries were all nations deceived. "And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth." Rev. 16:12-16 Satan, the beast, and the false prophet, let or make through ELoHeeM(God's) providence, evil spirits of devils, or demons go to the kings of the world to bring them to Armageddon. MeSHiaCH defeats them, Rev. 19:15-21 After the destruction the fowls that fly, shall eat the people, and animals. Rev. 19:15-21, Ezekiel 39:17-23. Rev. 19:19-21 The beast, and the false prophet are thrown into the ...lake of fire burning with brimstone...During the Armageddon time MeSHiaCH defeats the rest with His (sword) which proceeds out of His mouth. Rev. 20:1-3 Satan is bound, and can not deceive for 1,000 years. More later.

Why worry? If you are here than rejoice you will be used to minister to those suffering. If you die you go to be with the Lord. This is a good teaching, no matter where people are God will keep them, and protect them to serve Him, if they are receiving His Grace through His Only Begotten Ben YeHuSHua MeSHiaCH(Son Jesus Christ). Now I think the worlds way is babylons way, but more specific America is establishing this worlds way, so to be very specific, I do believe mystery babylon is the U.S.. I personally want to go around Jerusalem, and be a righteous one around there, yet if God desire this, this will happen. That is where we see many of the scriptures speaking of when God goes back to set up Israel, the two witnesses will be around there, and the 144,000 will be around there. Yet God will chose where He wants His people some may need to stay in babylon to die for Christ, but I think it is for those who are truly chosen by God to go to YeRuSHaLaYiM, that surely is called spiritual Sodom, and Egypt, but God will do things there first through ZeRuBBaBeL, as is explained in ZeCHaRiaH, He will be one of the two witnesses, and He will lay the foundation of the temple, and build the temple in the way ELoHeeM wants. Yet I think also in Zechariah, there are seven other leaders, or maybe six, the other witness, and more leaders beside Him. So certainly if we are counted worthy we will leave The U.S. in God's timing, otherwise we are not totally obedient to God, because in Revelation He says to get out of Babylon. I am not saying this is easy, but remember the teaching to Zerubbabel it is not by power, nor by might(army), but by My Spirit says The Lord. If ELoHeeM wants you out He will get you out, in His timing, in His way that He chooses. ELoHeeM BaRuCH(bless) us all in the name of Yeshua Meshiach.

Did you also notice how this is said for those who are under the law, meaning more then one thing, we are not under law, the old testament law, and the righteous requirements of the law which is the N.C., laws, we are under Grace, and yet even another understanding is, we are not under law, when we have fulfilled the law through grace, meaning we are following Meshiach(Christ, Christos, Christo, Masih, Messiah) where ever he goes. Revelation 14:1-5 shows this is possible.

What am I to do?

You know the truth about the different things many different denominations are called is that they who receive the Bible, all those different names come from The Bible, explaining who we are, and we follow Christ, that is in the literal meanings.

Questions, and answers, is what I am going for here. Where does the star of David come from, what is the purpose of the star of David? Why does YiSRaayL in the natural continue with having the Star of David? Do they see that God says not to have images which do not go with the Older Testaments, teachings? No where in the Older Testament is this said to be used. So why use this? For natural YiSRaayL, according to The Older Covenant, God never said for them to have this. So in the Older Covenant way of thinking is not this wrong for them to have, having a symbol that is not commanded by ELoHeeM(God). In the New Testament symbols do not have power in themselves, unless the evil of the people put them there, so in and of itself the star of David does not have evil power, but the 6 pointed star was used in the occult practices for a long time, far longer then Hitler.

Here is a good question for you. Does God sin? The answer is no, so whenever someone sins they are sinning, and not God, that sin in there life, is stopping them fellowship with The Father, through Yeshua Meshiach(Jesus Christ) our Lord, and God.

Mystery Babylon is a world way, yet even more is the U.S. who helps all countries to sell, and trade, and yet all who are evil are I think also mystery babylon, in Rev. Jerusalem is called Sodom, and Egypt.

What is the book about? What does the book say? Can you tell me in a short explanation?.

QUOTE (AllforJesustheLord @ May 16 2004, 06:53 PM) One thing you have to make sure you have The power of The Holy Spirit to help someone, now if you do things in the flesh, you are hurting yourself by sinning, ). I just said exactly this in the post before yours. Did you read my post? Doesn't appear so. This is wonderful you did, but there are other things which I posted, try not to get into the spirit of argumentation which is going on right now, in this web site, this is about serving God, and Loving The Almighty, I am doing what I feel The Holy Spirit is telling me to do. Sometimes He does not want me to read all the posts, sometimes telling me not to read some posts, othertimes He gives me a choice, I am not under obligation to you, or anyone else first I am to listen to God, then to help other people, including myself, so other, and I can love God, as we are commanded to do. Yet if for your sake you want me to look at your post the one you posted I can, to show you love, this is God's will, if you feel you must control me, God will allow me to do that for you. ELoHeeM(God) bless you in Joshua Messiah our YaHWeH(Lord), and ELoHaY(God), and I love you through Him. Instead of contentions, let us sow peace.

Post to them, Matthew 12:46-50, 23:8-11, Mark 3:31-35, Luke 8:18-22, which explain only those who are obedient to Christ are the sons of God, and daughters of God, no one else is of God, they are of satan if they are not of God. 1 John 3:10 By this revealed are the children of God, and the children of the devil: everyone not doing righteousness not is of God, and he not loving the brother of him. 1 John 3:15 Everyone hating the brother of him is a murderer, and you know that every murderer not has life everlasting in him remaining. 1 John 4:12 God no one ever has beheld, if we love one another, God in us remains, and the love of Him, having been perfected is in us. Two things they say, they can see God The Father and live, which is not correct we can see His Only Begotten Son, and live, who is the manifestation of The Father. They also say all are sons, and daughters of God, and this is not true, only those who hear the Word of God, and do it are the sons, and daughters, of The Father.

Please will someone help me in understanding these scriptures which are in my last post?

Traffix demon are you just here to bring confusion, and hate, may ELoHeeM(God) through YaHuSHia MeSHiaCH(Jesus Christ) save your soul. So it is.

Do you recognize whoever says Jesus Christ is Lord, who ever says that they can only say that by God's Spirit. If so then you can see, some People have the gift of The Holy Spirit, yet not all the time do they have the Holy Spirit when they do sins, but when they do what is good, a person can only do what is good by The Holy Spirit, without The Holy Spirit we can not do anything that is good. So when sins are done they are sinning, and in those areas of sinning they do not have The Holy Spirit.