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And so to get this POLL back on track... Grace, mercy, and peace to you all, in Christ, Cp

spiritman, I am familiar with this writing, and I didn't really agree with it when I read it over at TFN. You are obviously a member of Tribulations Forces Network. Would you mind if I ask you the member name you use over there so that I may know when I am speaking to the same person here and there. Though I do appreciate your effort this poll was merely for numerical comparisons of viewpoints held. Those who felt the need to express briefly why they voted why they did took it upon themselves, and did so briefly. But my intention was not to host extremely long dissertations(like yours and Joe's) nor debates regarding the topic. Should you really feel the need to hammer your point home please begin another thread of your own on the subject if you wouldn't mind. Thanks brother, in Christ, Cp

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Maranatha !!!

That was said very beautifully Vickilynn. Your response was a very healthy one, and one I wish more brothers and sisters held. A big part of the motive for me doing this poll in the first place was to see how many would answer just as you have. Senseless divisions are created and strife so often arises between these different camps, all so confident in their position. Endless hours spent researching and defending these positions is time that could be better spent with our Lord and for our Lord. Our position on the matter, will not matter in the end, as it will be at a time of our Lord's choosing. And if we are doing what we have been instructed to do as Christians, we just need to be ready. Grace, mercy, love, and peace to you, and to all who have contributed thus far, in Christ, Cp

I did not start this thread to begin a battle among the proponents of any of these views, but more for my edification on anyone's "leanings" one way or the other. I have included explanations/definitions below so that all are clear on the content of the questions/stances asked about in this poll. Grace, mercy, and peace to you all, in Christ, Cp

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Out of curiousity, why is it that this story, along with the "Iran prepared to strike Israel" story posted on the "Prohecy Headlines" page never appear in conventional news stories in the United States? (barring the X-files type of conspiracy theories here please )? Also why is there no author name given for the article? Of course they were both compelling stories but I have never seen that news source before and I am really curious. Thanks in Christ, CP

Yes to all of the above

Marriage only ends up adding even more guilt into the equation, as I have never talked with anyone who overcame their problem with lust merely by finding a wife(or husband). Once the "high" feeling of new love and marriage develops back into everyday life, we seem to revert back to the old lustful thought processes. I ADORE my wife, and I ADORE Christ, but I still wrestle with this issue of lust daily, I have for years (decades). I pray constantly for it to be removed from me, I have tried everything (except a lust exorcism ), and I still have to do battle with it constantly. How I lament the guilt my flesh causes me to feel

Thinking that if they instituted your particular brand of Christian law, then suddenly everyone would both be alright with it and suddenly begin to conform to your moral system seems incredibly naive.I was asked if I would "prefer to live in a Christian theocracy or not" AAA, there is no reason to call my desire naive. There is no harm in wanting and dreaming for such a place.

Yes, because I would not be surrounded by the moral filth and depravity that I am now. There would be no problems if we lived under God's law, denial of them got us here in the first place.

You are very kind brother and I do thank you for your encouraging words. The content takes me a little while to get out, involving a few trips back to the computer to get it all written, but I do put my whole heart into it and in the end it's to the point. I do like your disorder better than mine though, (l.o.i ), and wholeheartedly agree about "rambling" posts. It takes so few words to convey love, too often the rest is just prideful verbosity. It is likewise "nice to have you around" the thread. (p.s. and I also get a kick from your name, man, thanks for the post)

Brother Hazard, Though your references are spot on for your point, I disagree in one way. The men you speak of were truly a cut above the average man today. Their proximity to the real truth enabled them to more honestly serve the cause. The anointing of the twelve and of the seventy was clear, as was their commision. They were not acting as a church "system", "religion", or "denomination", in their ordination. Though there are many good church leaders out there, how many of them would "sell and give up all their belongings" and take up to follow the Lord? We have seen the embarassment and debacle that the "organized church" has become, with it's fallen and misled leaders, "ordained" by those who were "empowered" to do so. And we have also seen congregations misled and wrongly acting on "ordained" instruction (a.k.a Pastor Fred Phelps' Westboro Baptist Church, etc...). I just don't think any Christian is a "lesser" Christian because they are not attending an organized church.