Jamb.eye

Well theyre interesting, I bet you wouldnt regret listening to the whole thing. But about the faking, Im specifically talking about randomly throughout the gone fishing one

http://www.generationchurch.org/audio I have a friend who really wants me to go to them, she thinks hes amazing. But I heard from another Christian friend that their church is kind of fake and pretends to be really into it...which it kind of sounds like to me when he randomly tells the audience to turn to each other and shout some random word. Just listen to the first two...tell me what you think. The fishing one is the one Im referring to more when I talk about fakeness.

in terms of popularity...i doubt either were ever "in" http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-1...rital-sex_x.htm "Of those interviewed in 2002, 95% reported they had had premarital sex; 93% said they did so by age 30. Among women born in the 1940s, nearly nine in 10 did. At the same time, people are waiting longer to marry; 2005 data show median age at first marriage is just over 25 for women and 27 for men."

Jamb, I'm not sure what reaction you expect from us with this post. The way you set up your post comes across as "thhis is a chip on my shoulder" and you want it to be a chip on everyone else's shoulder. In reading this, the reaction this post provokes is not a desire to research and discuss this, but rather a sense of meaningless babble. Most of us here don't have the time to research your claim. Frankly, I was not given any reason to go out of my way to do so. Seriously, if you are looking for discussion, then please present a solid case. I'm tired of "witch hunt" debates. More like asking if anyones seen the Daily Show and hoping for some countere arguments of some kind. Daily Show being an intelligent funny thing which presents opinions, although a lot more obviously. Or like Donnie Darko, an intelligent interesting thing that also presents many BIG opinions, which I think would be cool to see Christian counter arguments too. Although I always have my own for these huge pieces of art / literature. From Huckleberry Finn and Fahrenheit 451 to One Flew over the Cuckoos Nest and a lot of todays music.

You know...I was just thinking that same thing. And Jamb.eye...whether it's a feeling you get or not, that's still an opinion. I dont see how saying a feeling I get is an opinion. If I said I was sad from watching a movie, that isnt an opinion. If I say I get a certain vibe from a person, thats also just me saying my own experience, how can you call that opinion? I would call it more of an anti-conservative culture thing. There is also a strip where the existence of Santa is compared to the existence of God.

Sorry to jump on ya, but this appears to be an opinion! Carry on! Sorry to get out from under you...but a "vibe" means thats the feeling I get when I read it. Its a fact that I feel that way...I dont know how to prove my feelings to you...but why would I lie? I think Iryssa is wondering WHY I sense what I do (get that vibe). If you want to find out on your own, just pay careful attention to the comics and look past the joke. Theres also this speech by Watterson: http://home3.inet.tele.dk/stadil/spe_kc.htm Which might mean something, He also went to Kenyon, a very liberal school. War Hobbes: How come we play War and not Peace? Calvin: Too few role models Calvin: I'll be the fearless American defender of liberty and democracy and you can be the loathsome godless communist oppressor. We're at war, so if you get hit with a dart, you're dead and the other side wins okay? The two immediately fire at each other and both are 'dead' by the rules of war. Calvin: Kind of a stupid game isn't it (usually when you have that type of sarcasm, it is showing some kind of opinion) He had one where Calvin said "They say religion is the opiate of the masses, what do you suppose that means?" and the television sais "It means Karl Marx hadnt seen anything yet". The speech I gave a link to hugely makes fun of work and business, saying how you are told to never be happy where you are on an "imaginary ladder of success". "So, what's it like in the real world? Well, the food is better, but beyond that, I don't recommend it." "To make a business decision, you don't need much philosophy; all you need is greed, and maybe a little knowledge of how the game works." Theres also a series that puts organized sports in a bad light. A quote of his making fun of the human race in general appears on a "top atheist quotes" list...although they can't really say hes atheist. Im not saying I agree with Bill Watterson...especially on the sports thing, because from all of my experiences kids seem to end up choosing sports, drugs, or computer games. Calvin: Isn't it strange that evolution would give us a sense of humor? When you think about it, it's weird that we have a physiological response to absurdity. We laugh at nonsense. We like it. We think it's funny. Don't you think that it's odd that we appreciate absurdity? Why would we develop that way? How does it benefit us? Hobbes: I suppose that if we couldn't laugh at things that don't make sense, we couldn't react to a lot of life. Calvin: <pauses> I can't tell if that's really funny or really scary. Calvin: It took hundreds of years for these woods to grow and they leveled it in a week. It's gone. After they build new houses here, they'll have to widen the roads, and put up gas stations and pretty soon this whole area will be a big strip. Eventually there won't be a nice spot anywhere. I wonder if you can refuse to inherit the world? Hobbes: I think if you're born, it's too late Thomas Hobbes had a very dim view of humans, and Watterson has also consistently said that he is much like Hobbes, NOT Calvin. (Although he still uses Calvin to give his opinions)

I dont recall giving an opinion. Well...they are named after those two.

Sorry this probably belongs somewhere else but Im not allowed to really make any threads elsewhere! Did any of you read Calvin and Hobbes until you really understood the meanings and philosophy behind it? The vibe I get from it is definitely an anti corporate/capitalism/conservatism one, as well as the few speeches the author of the books has given in his career. What do you guys think? Edit: youre right, not anti Christian exactly...but Watterson definitely seems atheist or agnostic to me. And often times anti conservatism goes with anti religion.

Same here actually...mine is more like a "new quarters resolution" that just happens to start 3 days after the new year...

Im going to try to stop thinking so much and stop looking around at random people and music during class and Im going to try to hear the teacher for once. This will start with my second quarter of college; I survived the first quarter without doing it just like I did highschool, but theres just so much Im missing out on...