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Yeah Just think about it! No one gets hurt! and this is news!?!?! What is the media coming too?

It would be if they accepted it. Do they? This is the heart of the matter. Without it a two state solution is impossible. They'll accept it just as the Israelis will because there is no alternative. Hopefully, now the American government is more fully commited it will happen sooner rather than later. You are an optimist. It hasn't happened for over 60 years, what makes you think it will happen now? Do you really believe Obama is a magician?

It would be if they accepted it. Do they? This is the heart of the matter. Without it a two state solution is impossible.

My thoughts, too. Hey guys, give them some credit. They are quite willing to compromise Israel's safety

Shalom FresnoJoe I remember you when you where in your 4 maybe 3 digit post number Thanks for the support. Yes, we would do best to trust in our Father in heaven rather than governments of men Bless you brother

and this coming from the ex-PM of the country that created the "British Empire" - go figure Mat 7:4 how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye? I guess we don't count as 'brother'

Well, you are right of course but personally I would rather try dragging them along to meet God, rather than point a finger at them "Amazing grace.....I was once lost and now I'm found....." - happened to all of us. I pray they see the light in time I'm not going to sit around judging them. It ain't ma job. God will do that in due time if needs be

There are many who don't concider it a sin. I guess that is the main reason and that goes for the city's leadership too. It's more about individual's rights and so on Nothing new. It's the same the world over

So now this is part of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict :24:

"If I were a rich man, ya-be-di-be-di-be-dum............." :) :whistling:

Chocolate? You are a royal member. You should be censoring this before it gets out of...well, out of hand......

Yes, after I've eaten it

Oh no! and here I was, believing we have a great new "road map" through our stomachs

We actually do have something in common with the Palestinians We all love Humus!! Listen, you got to start somewhere, no?

while I could agree with you on the need to stop poking the Palestinians, as you put it It must be understood that so far, whenever we left an area (Lebanon, Gaza) we wound up with rockets landing ever closer to our civilian settlements Gaza belongs to the Palestinians at least in the eyes of "world community". Our right-winger Sharon was the one who decided we will leave it to the Palestinians, and the results were rockets landing everywhere which only cooled down after we used the army. Same happened in Lebanon. We left there after 18 years and got the Hisbollah as neighbors, who got us to use the army again after their provocative attacks and kidnapping The Fatah don't seem to be able to control the Hamas and leaving the area would just set up another militant group, right outside Jerusalem Non of the groups are willing to declare our right to have a state of our own, yet demand a state of their own Do you really believe there is ONE country in the world who would allow this?! I find the world pretty hypocritical with this, or maybe just selfish Indians in the US are in reservations. Aborignies in AUS got a big "sorry" from the PM and so on down the list of "enlightened" countries and Obama is now cooling things down with Islam at our expense? Come on!!

Who are the P's? The old PLO? The Hamas? The Islamic Jihad? El-qaida maybe? Even if we succeed in making some kind of "peace" with one group, will that stop the others from continuing with their violence? There is too much fundamental Islam going around for peace to be a reality A good reason to trust in God and not in Man

There should be an answer but the answer is not always a direct retaliation. We don't need to jump every time they do something. We should do that when it suits us. Otherwise we are just puppets operated by every occasional whim, and fall into their hands Respond when they don't expect it By the way, Islam has us on a multi-front war for decades now

It's Gibril's extreme Palestinian terror group (Leaders based in Syria), not that it makes a difference to the people in the old-age home that was hit. Hezbollah won't initiate a second front after the 2006 war. Remeber, Nasrallah is still in hiding to this very day!

For those who don't understand why we are not hysterical over the news..... (Got this in the post yesterday. Pretty neat summary) 7 decades ago the Jewish people were lead like lambs to the slaughter We had no land, not army, no defense, nothing..... except faith and even that was pretty flimsey The UN "gave us" a country which was 65% desert But the Arab world wouldn't let us have that and attacked the country, only a few hours old! We were then 650,000 Jews with nowhere to go! Against the rest of the Arab world! Lebanon , Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, Libya, Saudi Arabia, attacked all at once. 41 years ago! We fought the three strongest armies in the Middle East, And wiped them out in six days We fought against different coalitions of Arab countries, With modern armies, And masses of Soviet Russian weapons, And we still won! We have today A country, Hi-Tech Economy, exporting millions. Intel - Microsoft - IBM develop their stuff here. Our doctors win world prizes for medical developments. The desert is flourishing selling oranges and vegetables to the world. Israel has sent its own satellite into Space! Three satellites all together! We sit with the US, with 250 million people, with Russia, with 200 million people, with China, with 1.1 billion people, with the Europeans - - France, England, Germany, with 350 million people..... The only countries in the world to shoot something into space! To think that only 68+ years ago, we were led, shameful, with no hope, to our death! We celebrate Passover, let's not forget what the story is all about. God took us past Pharaoh, the Greeks, the Romans, the Inquisition in Spain, the Pogroms in Russia, Hitler, the Germans, the Holocaust, the armies of the seven Arab countries, Saddam..... Take it easy, folks, Why would God drop us now? No matter which part of human history you try! Think of it, for us, the Jewish people, our situation has never been better! Egypt? Anyone know where their empire disappeared to? Greeks? Alexander of Macedonia? The Romans? Does anyone today speak Latin? The Third Reich? Anyone heard any news about it lately? And look at us, The Nation from the Bible, from Slavery in Egypt, We are still here, Speaking the same language! Right here, right now. The Arabs don't know it yet, but, they will learn that there is only ONE GOD But still: They won't tell you that there are festivals going on, That people keep on living, That people are going out, That people are seeing friends. Yes, our morale is low, So what? It's only because we weep for our dead while they enjoy the blood. (end of quoted email) I would add that GOD is behind all this and we would do well to remember this at all times Amen

Hi Dannyboy, To me it is quite understandable (and I could be wrong of course) Look at it this way..... I hear people talking against God, against Yeshua and the Spirit. If I didn't trust God and didn't know Him like I do today. I would get kind of worried and try to defend Him (That's a good one! Me defending God!!). One of the ways I would have for "defending" God would be to get rid of His enemies. That would easily bring me to use violence and worse. So, lack of faith in my religion would make me anti - "anyone-who-is-against-my-religion" Sound familiar? Blessings David

No, thats not right, thats assuming. There are some groups of Jews who are known for violence and intimidation of those spreading the Gospel. So, I wont just assume it was Muslims, what good does making up your mind before you have the facts do for anybody? SP One thing I think we can safely assume is, that whoever did it is afraid of Yeshua coming into his/her life Seems like the work done in Yeshua's name is having an effect. It is terrible though, to have a 16 year old pay such a high price Today is Purim and also 40 days since murniyeh was done away with. With all the costumes and fancy dresses it is all to easy to commit another sneak attack. For this reason Security forces are on highest alert

A 15 year old boy was severly wounded today in all parts of his body when a bomb went off in his hands. The boy had received a Purim gift (traditional) and when opening it, it exploded in his face. The boy lives in Ariel with his family who are all followers of Yeshua. They had been threatened in the past by "Anti Missionary" Jews and that is who the police suspect are behind it.

so what else is new?

Isa 51:21 Therefore hear now this, thou afflicted, and drunken, but now with wine: Isa 51:22 Thus saith thy Lord Jehovah, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thy hand the cup of staggering, even the bowl of the cup of my wrath; thou shalt no more drink it again: Isa 51:23 and I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee, that have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over; and thou hast laid thy back as the ground, and as the street, to them that go over. Or in English Isa 51:21 So now give ear to this, you who are troubled and overcome, but not with wine: Isa 51:22 This is the word of the Lord your master, even your God who takes up the cause of his people: See, I have taken out of your hand the cup which overcomes, even the cup of my wrath; it will not again be given to you: Isa 51:23 And I will put it into the hand of your cruel masters, and of those whose yoke has been hard on you; who have said to your soul, Down on your face! so that we may go over you: and you have given your backs like the earth, even like the street, for them to go over.

Palestinians celebrating in the streets of Gaza? Giving out sweets to everyone? after massacaring a few Jews in Jerusalem..... No..... couldn't be.....they are just poor suffering people....... aren't they?