byHisGrace

Next thing you know you'll be rolling down the isle!!! They call me a bible thumper I do believe it's true If you knew my Jesus you'ld be thumpin that bible too. They call me a holy roller I do believe it's true If you knew my Jesus, you'ld be doin' some rollin' too.

My minister's wife recieved the Holy Spirit baptism and began to speak in other tongues about 30 seconds after she gave her life to the Lord-and had never heard of it, she was about 12. I was saved for about a year before I received it. Have you received the Holy Spirit SINCE ye believed?

The Lord told the Pharisees that they were dangerously close to Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit when the said the things the Lord did were from the devil. He doesn't really come out and tell us exactly what it is, but I wouldn't go around saying things that I don't understand are necessarily satanic. Personally, I think if you are at all worried about commiting such a sin, then you haven't done it, because there wouldn't be any conviction of the Holy Spirit within you.

Take a look at Jesus words-He tells us that this baptism is a Promise from the Father! This promise is to you and to your children and to all who are afar off-even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Yea, that means me! By the way, I am Pentecostal and we don't believe (at least not in the Assemblies of God, which is the largest Pentecostal denomination) that a person must be baptised in the Holy Spirit in order to be saved. Just don't understand why you wouldn't want to be.

All who are saved, have the Holy Spirit-it is He who shows us our need for a Saviour and draws us to the Cross. The baptism in the Holy Spirit is a seperate event, that we most definitly need to live in this sin sick, God forsaking world, but it is not a requirement for salvation.

The Bible tells us in the Psalms to "lift our hands in the sanctuary and bless the Lord". Yes for me it is an act of surrender and love. You see, God inhabits the praises of His people. That is so AWESOME-many times when I am praising Him I lift my hands in surrender and love and I can actually fee His presence, He does come and inhabit our praise.

Just want to know, what does it mean to you, to abandon religion alltogether? Did you forsake the assembling of yourselves together? If not, does it mean you go to a house church? Just curious.

Music becomes a part of our mindset, that is one of the reasons it is so important to use it to convey spiritual truth. Personally, I'm just not interested in secular music. I like Newsboys, Go Fish, Carman ect... I really don't think it is wrong to listen to all worldly stuff,, but some of it is just nasty.

I'll take my chances with this one and go out on a limb.

I agree that too many take the pure truth of God's WORD and twist it to say all experiences with the Lord are carnal, but hey....where does it say barking like a dog is from God?

Science vs. the Bible There are passages in the Bible that coincide with scientific principles that weren't widely accepted until hundreds of years after the Bible had been written. Here are some examples: 1. The Bible said the earth is round and is suspended in space: In various verses, the Bible says the earth is round and that it is suspended in space: "He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth..." (Isaiah 40:22, NIV). (By the way, the Hebrew language at that time did not have a word for "sphere," only for "circle.") "He spreads out the northern [skies] over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing" (Job 26:7, NIV). 2. The Bible described the Hydrologic Cycle: In various passages, the Bible describes a hydrologic cycle, the process by which clouds are formed, rain is produced and ground water is replenished. Science made the same discovery in the 1600s, long after the Bible passages were written. Here are the related Bible verses: "He wraps up the waters in his clouds, yet the clouds do not burst under their weight" (Job 26:8, NIV). "He draws up the drops of water, which distill as rain to the streams; the clouds pour down their moisture and abundant showers fall on mankind" (Job 36:27-28, NIV). "The wind blows to the south and turns to the north; round and round it goes, ever returning on its course. All streams flow into the sea, yet the sea is never full. To the place the streams come from, there they return again" (Ecclesiastes 1:6-7, NIV). 3. The Bible stated that the stars cannot be counted: For centuries, scientists and astronomers thought they could count the precise number of stars in the universe. Brahe, for example, said there were 777. Kepler claimed the total was 1,005. Hipparchus said there were 1,022 stars. Ptolemy raised the number to 1,056. Eventually, scientists, including the great Galileo, concluded that the stars could not be numbered, just as the Bible had always claimed: ! "I will make the descendants of David my servant and the Levites who minister before me as countless as the stars of the sky and as measureless as the sand on the seashore" (Jeremiah 33:22, NIV). He took him outside and said, "Look up at the heavens and count the stars--if indeed you can count them." Then he said to him, "So shall your offspring be." (Genesis 15:5, NIV). 4. The Bible stated the existence of valleys and springs in the seas: Only until the past few hundred years did people have the technology to discover that there are deep valleys and fresh water springs in the oceans. But the Bible always knew: "The valleys of the sea were exposed and the foundations of the earth laid bare at the rebuke of the Lord. . . " (2 Samuel 22:16, NIV). "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth day of the second month--on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened. " (Genesis 7:11, NIV). 5. The Bible stated that kind words and laughter are good for one's health: In recent years, American newspapers have published various reports that laughter releases chemicals within a person's body that can contribute to one's health. And, that depression and stress can weaken the immune system and contribute to various health problems. But, the Bible knew of the health virtues of laughter roughly 3000 years ago when the Bible's book of Proverbs was recorded: "Pleasant words are a honeycomb, sweet to the soul and healing to the bones." (Proverbs 16:24, NIV). "A cheerful heart is good medicine, but a crushed spirit dries up the bones." (Proverbs 17:22, NIV). 6. The Bible stated that stars differ from one another centuries before scientists reached the same conclusion: Today we know that the stars in the skies are very different from one another, that they are made up of differing concentrations of different elements, and that they vary in their sizes, their age! s and in their proximity to the earth. But the ancient people had no way to prove this. Even so, Paul, who received many insights from Jesus, wrote a passage about 2000 years ago in the Bible's book of 1 Corinthians that said that the stars in the heavens did indeed differ from one another: "The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor." (1 Corinthians 15:41).

Say What? Never heard that one before.

I was at a small Bible study group with friends from our church one time when a new guy came to the study. He seemed very uncomfortable during the time we were praising and worshiping the Lord.-looking around with a scared look on his face, jumpy and irritable. Afterwards we had a time of prayer for individuals and we asked him to sit in the "hot seat"-one chair in the middle with everyone gathering around to pray for you.-A Christian friend started to pray for him and he became very very agitated-when he tried to annoint him with oil in the Name of Jesus-he almost pushed himself backwards off the chair to keep the oil from touching him. His eyes got wild, he began foaming at the mouth and couldn't say the sinners prayer-we just asked him to say that Jesus is Lord and he fell unto the floor with an otherworldly look on his face.-Those around asked him if he would become a Christian and he said no. They would not then cast the demon out-saying that until he was ready to make Christ Lord it would do no good-as 7 worse would come in. This was my only experience with this and it was enough.

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Christian tshirts are great-all who read it will get the message-but make sure the real witness is in your life style. They are watching I have a license plate holder that says-If your living like there is no God---you'd better be right!-and a little fish emblem. Just make sure if your bumper stickers proclaim Christ your not cutting off other drivers or behaving unChristlike. :biggrin:

Yes, thanks to the precious blood of Jesus.

Yes, we as Christians should judge-our fellow believers-this is not only a suggestion, but a command in scripture-yet, our judgement is to be scriptural and end there. We cannot judge unbelievers-for doing those things that are natural to them.-they do not have a new nature in Christ and cannot be expected to act like it. We need to use our judgement however, to draw those who are afar off, back to Christ instead of pushing them further away. I've heard it said, that Christianity is the only army that shoots its own wounded.-shame on us.

They just go for the communion wine, or what? Going to church-any church-doesn't make you a Christian, anymore than going to McDonald's makes you a mcnugget.

Can a Christian be Jewish also?-Yes, If a Jewish person accepts Jesus as their Messiah, then they are Christian, but that doesn't stop them from being Jewish-Hey look at the New Testament, Paul, Peter, James, John ect... were all Jewish believers in Yashua. Maybe you could have her check out Messianic Judism-look at that thread for more info.

So does satan-that doesn't make him Christian-what I mean is, most of the ones I know-do not know Jesus in a real and personal (born again) way. I don't know everything the Catholic church teaches-and perhaps they do teach this but most of the ones I am familiar with-don't have a clue about living a real and vital-blood bought-new nature- relationship with Jesus.

To be honest with you, I really don't know too many Catholics that are Christians-the ones I know have no clue what the bible really teaches, same to be said for most Presbyterians, Lutherans, and Methodists-soooo they call themselves Christians-doesn't mean a whole lot!

She is right, to a point, Jesus is the perfect One, and like I said, doctrine is important, but sometimes we think something is correct, then the Lord shows us in His Word that we are wrong, we also have to be willing to make the change.

Yea!!! I like that song too! Check out "7 ways" by Carman

Amen to that, Why do we call people who go nuts about sports and such, fans, but someone who loves to shout, dance, lift hands, weep, kneel before the Lord FANatics? Most Christians, when they call another Christian fanatic, really mean "He loves Jesus more than I do". :inlove: The bible tells us to lift our hands in the sanctuary and bless the Lord. Sometime do a word study in Psalms for the seven different meanings for the word translated praise-Most of us will find we're really not doing what the Word says to do. One of them is to "jump up and down joyfully" I haven't done much of that lately!

PSALMS I like the real heartfelt prayers of David.