VRSpock Posted June 23, 2004 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 304 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/24/1971 Share Posted June 23, 2004 (edited) The following quotes on the String Theory in Quantum Physics can be found at: http://www.columbia.edu/cu/record/archives...3_iss18/14.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "If you examine microscopic particles the way people did in the early part of the century, you come to the conclusion that the elementary constituents of nature are little dots that have no further internal structures, Edited June 23, 2004 by vrspock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted June 23, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Way cool, vrspock! :a: So that's what the String Theory is. Good show on the author for describing it in a way that makes sense. Thanks for posting this! And thanks for your interpretation! :t3: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted June 23, 2004 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 67 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/19/1981 Share Posted June 23, 2004 There is only one explanation of why the quantum strings are coherent enough to create the symphony of order that we know as our existence. These quantum strings, or rather these "notes from a violin string" are actually the commandments for creation spoken by God and echoed for eternity. So, according to this, crimes that criminals commit or Adam and Eve eating from the tree, or anything that we do -- it is not really our fault because we are God's echo, God told us to do all this, he even told the AIDS virus to do what it does. Really interesting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aka_mary Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Hi vrspock, I asked a question about quantum physics and chrisianity not too long ago. My daughter wanted to know how to witness to her friend's dad, as he is big into quantum physics. I will let her know that this thread has been started. Karen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VRSpock Posted June 23, 2004 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 34 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 304 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/24/1971 Author Share Posted June 23, 2004 (edited) There is only one explanation of why the quantum strings are coherent enough to create the symphony of order that we know as our existence. These quantum strings, or rather these "notes from a violin string" are actually the commandments for creation spoken by God and echoed for eternity. So, according to this, crimes that criminals commit or Adam and Eve eating from the tree, or anything that we do -- it is not really our fault because we are God's echo, God told us to do all this, he even told the AIDS virus to do what it does. Really interesting.... Not really Osiris. God maintains the fabric of our existence. If someone hand sews you a new coat, they have no control over the fact that you might decide to drag it through the mud. God also created free will. It is not His will for us to be robots or puppets, but free thinkers. Because of this will for us to think on our own, God will not force us to choose right from wrong. That is our choice, and man has a very bad habit of choosing wrong a majority of the time. Especially when man does not maintain a personal relationship with God. It's sort of like rebellious teens that get into all sorts of trouble because their relationship with their parents is very weak or practically non-existent. It is not in the plans of the parents for their kids to become drug addicts, dabble in witchcraft or shack up with someone and get pregnant. But they have free will and short of disowning them, there's nothing the parents can really do about it except continue to love them and try to steer them back in the right direction. If we continue to rebel against God, eventually He is forced to disown us just like the parents of rebellious teens. However, these things also happen for reasons. Our accountability for our actions also help us to mature, once we face our responsiblities. Since death is merely a transition from this life to the next, no one should be angry at God for taking a loved one away from them either through disease, war or by any other means. The same is true of any negative event in our lives. We should never feel ill toward God for these things, but view them as a litmus test against our character and how we are able to handle such events. There can be some extremely grueling tests through negative events, but in the end it should only serve to bring us closer to God rather than farther away. Feelings of anger against God for negative events in our lives are the result of selfishness and are usually also wrapped by guilt. Sometimes we are blinded by it and can only see the immediate negative effect of a negative event instead of the long term positive effect. Edited June 23, 2004 by vrspock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Timer Posted June 23, 2004 Group: Soapbox - Members Followers: 2 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 962 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 52 Days Won: 1 Joined: 05/18/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/11/1932 Share Posted June 23, 2004 String Theory has the capacity to describe not only how the universe is, but how it got to be the way it is, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted June 23, 2004 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 67 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/19/1981 Share Posted June 23, 2004 There is only one explanation of why the quantum strings are coherent enough to create the symphony of order that we know as our existence. These quantum strings, or rather these "notes from a violin string" are actually the commandments for creation spoken by God and echoed for eternity. So, according to this, crimes that criminals commit or Adam and Eve eating from the tree, or anything that we do -- it is not really our fault because we are God's echo, God told us to do all this, he even told the AIDS virus to do what it does. Really interesting.... Not really Osiris. God maintains the fabric of our existence. If someone hand sews you a new coat, they have no control over the fact that you might decide to drag it through the mud. Well, according to original quote, everything is the way it is because God said it(we(our actions) are the echo, the result of what he said), if God echoed it, crimes and diseases must be a result of that echo as well. God also created free will. Define free will. Show proof that there is a such thing as free will. Do animals have free will? What creates free will, or where does free will come from? It is not His will for us to be robots or puppets, but free thinkers. It is not? And why is it that at the end he only saves people that act like robots or puppets? And he destroys and condems to hell the free thinkers? At the end, that is it all there is going to be anyways, robots. Because of this will for us to think on our own, God will not force us to choose right from wrong. That is our choice, and man has a very bad habit of choosing wrong a majority of the time. Especially when man does not maintain a personal relationship with God. It's sort of like rebellious teens that get into all sorts of trouble because their relationship with their parents is very weak or practically non-existent. But if one does choose right, and one is a nonbeliever, doesn't really help him much because God will judge him on his opinions not whether if he was a just and righteous man. He will be judged on a religious opinion of whether he thought god existed or not. It is not in the plans of the parents for their kids to become drug addicts, dabble in witchcraft or shack up with someone and get pregnant. But they have free will and short of disowning them, there's nothing the parents can really do about it except continue to love them and try to steer them back in the right direction. No such thing as free will. If kids become drug addicts, what is the reason, why? Where there problems at home, were they hanging with the wrong crowd, peer presure? If the kid was raised with ethics, the chances are that he will resist peer presure, it is not that he willed it, his brain was trained that way. If he gives into peer presure, he might have learned ethics, but did not influence him as much as his friends do. If we continue to rebel against God, eventually He is forced to disown us just like the parents of rebellious teens. I thought he was Love, I never thought God would act the same way unperfect human parents would act. Feelings of anger against God for negative events in our lives are the result of selfishness and are usually also wrapped by guilt. Sometimes we are blinded by it and can only see the immediate negative effect of a negative event instead of the long term positive effect. How can someone be angry at something they think does not exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Ernie Posted June 23, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,802 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 46 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/29/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/01/1945 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Greetings VRSpock, Great article. Thank you, and thank you for your response to Osiris. We need more forum members such as yourself. Blessings, Dad Ernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mscoville Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 VRSPOCK, Beautiful brother! Thank you. Good thinking and nicely stated. Osiris, Well, according to original quote, everything is the way it is because God said it(we(our actions) are the echo, the result of what he said), if God echoed it, crimes and diseases must be a result of that echo as well. Why are you asking this Osiris? Do you think those things are bad? ~ Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted June 23, 2004 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 67 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/19/1981 Share Posted June 23, 2004 VRSPOCK, Beautiful brother! Thank you. Good thinking and nicely stated. Osiris, Well, according to original quote, everything is the way it is because God said it(we(our actions) are the echo, the result of what he said), if God echoed it, crimes and diseases must be a result of that echo as well. Why are you asking this Osiris? Do you think those things are bad? ~ Martin no, not at all, the only thing is that it contradicts with what the bible or christianity has to say... You see, christianity has it that everything man does is a sin, and it is man's fault, in this scenario, God is the result of all the sin, God makes the sound, we are just his echo. This though is assuming that a god exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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