Uh Oh! Socialism stops where self is concerned

[Matthitjah]

Quote google and the Canadian Press;

'My heart, my choice,' Williams says, defending decision for U.S. heart surgery

By Tara Brautigam (CP)

[Matthitjah]

Know what I would ask the President were I the Republicans invited to the public debate (cough, cough sham/show) on Health Care ?

"How come when it comes to Abortion we are to protect the Doctor Patient Relationship and Priveledge to the point of hiding what underage girls are undertaking to eliminate a pregnancy from their parents, but when it come to National Health Care were going to have bureaucratic panels who make decisions about what the best level of care is best for individuals?"

Peace,

Dave

[Guest LadyC]

this really SHOULD be a real eye-opener to a lot of folks... unfortunately though, it won't be.

[Guest yod]

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[MorningGlory]

I really can't fault Danny Williams for choosing to go to where the most experienced doctors are. In reading about the Canadian health care system, I found that there is excellent care available in other parts of Canada. I wonder why he didn't go there....since he paid for the procedure himself? Unless there really IS the waiting list he sort of refers to?

[~candice~]

If this weren't so sad it would be pathetic.

"This was my heart, my choice and my health,"

Let that quote sink in for a moment.

Of course, the lowly common man who couldn't write the check or spare for the travel would have to subject himself to a broken sternum or ribs, a waiting list, and sub standard care.

Folks, this stuff is just nothing more than the old days of Serfdom which the Judeo/Christian ethic of Social Justice did away with.

Socialism in Medicine will leave more people sick and push more people towards deaths door.

Do you have proof to back up your rhetoric?

You are making wild sweeping statements based on one operation. As the article states, Newfoundland is small and doesn't have the population base to generate highly specialised health care like he wanted. What he needed, however, was still available to him there.

This guy could afford to go elsewhere and did. This doesn't imply there is something wrong with Canadian socialised health care. I'm sure the millions of Canadians who rely on it are quite thankful for it. Surely a cracked sternum is better than no health care at all?

[Ovedya]

If this weren't so sad it would be pathetic.

"This was my heart, my choice and my health,"

Let that quote sink in for a moment.

Of course, the lowly common man who couldn't write the check or spare for the travel would have to subject himself to a broken sternum or ribs, a waiting list, and sub standard care.

Folks, this stuff is just nothing more than the old days of Serfdom which the Judeo/Christian ethic of Social Justice did away with.

Socialism in Medicine will leave more people sick and push more people towards deaths door.

Do you have proof to back up your rhetoric?

You are making wild sweeping statements based on one operation. As the article states, Newfoundland is small and doesn't have the population base to generate highly specialised health care like he wanted. What he needed, however, was still available to him there.

This guy could afford to go elsewhere and did. This doesn't imply there is something wrong with Canadian socialised health care. I'm sure the millions of Canadians who rely on it are quite thankful for it. Surely a cracked sternum is better than no health care at all?

If you go to YouTube and search for Steven Crowder's Channel. He did a short "documentary" on the Canadian healthcare system in which he tested the system (in Ontario). Watch the video and see for yourself.

Canadians are satisfied with their healthcare system for two reasons primarily: 1) The greater majority of those that use the system use it for simple things like colds, flu, physicals, etc. So of course the majority would be satisfied, because the majority has very limited experience with the system. 2) There's little choice: Use the system or don't. Canadians are largely ambivalent about the system. They have to go during office hours or they simply don't get treated. They have to follow the bureaucracy or they simply don't get in to see a doctor. There is a complacency involved with bureaucratically run systems: Once the initial frustration subsides eventually people fall in line because they realize that nothing can be done to change the bureaucracy. Eventually people become so institutionalized that they actually believe that the system is the greatest thing in the world. Look at North Korea as a perfect example.

One statistic I read stated that in certain parts of Canada there is 1 physician for every 1,000 residents. People must schedule their appointments with their doctors sometimes months in advance or they simply don't get in. At the gov't run clinics patients are treats in triage. Not unusual by any means. But when you consider that some wait as long as 5 or 8 hours just to see a nurse practitioner (not even the doctor) it becomes an issue.

Again, watch the Crowder piece. In one part they actually have to wait more than 5 hours to see a nurse practitioner for a sprained ankle. To get a simple blood test a nurse recommends that he pay a private doctor to get it done, due to the horrible bureaucratic red tape they would have had to go through. Imagine you're a person concerned that he's contracted HIV or some horrible disease, or that you're concerned you might have kidney problems and you need to get a blood test to confirm. In Canada's system you might have to wait weeks just to get the blood drawn. In America we can get you into a clinic the same day, and get your result back in 3 days.

[EricH]

It is actually humurous. Most of those with money who support the redistribution of wealth don't want to do it with ther own money.

[humbleseeker]

Well I am glad he is here getting surgery done, the selfish you no what. A socialist leader that lets his own people fall under the knife of doctors he dosent even trust.

[nagwalk]

I'm just glad we don't have a Socialist/Communist President like the United States has. We can only assume that you are all Socialists. (Alfie puts his broad brush away...) by at least 53% too.

Shame. The Newfie Premier is a Conservative of one Province. Your President is the head of the United Socialist states of America.LOL