Khristeeanos Posted October 6, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 109 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,278 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 29 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/07/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted October 6, 2004 DIME: One thing too, is that there is much controversy over the scripture I'm refering to that it could mean different things. So I'm even will to drop that point of the discussion as a fallacy of interpretation on my part. IT still, however, doesn't nullify an eternal security position. Yes, there is controversy today, but it wasn't always that way. The original church in Acts 2 all believed the same thing. Too bad we don't today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apothanein kerdos Posted October 6, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 8,713 Content Per Day: 1.20 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted October 6, 2004 DIME: One thing too, is that there is much controversy over the scripture I'm refering to that it could mean different things. So I'm even will to drop that point of the discussion as a fallacy of interpretation on my part. IT still, however, doesn't nullify an eternal security position. Joel, you took the words right out of my mouth. The meaning of the sin that leads to death is unclear. Most people think that it is unbelief and rejection of God. This is just a nitpick, so it can be avoided. Careful saying most. Some believe that sin unto death is a spiritual death where the Holy Spirit is silent inside of you. It leaves such a void that a person is left with no choice but to turn back to Christ. Others, however, believe it is a physical death. Yet others believe your interpretation. However, it's hard to use a word as most when it comes to interpretative issues that are hotly debated, because there isn't a clear concensus on where the Church falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apothanein kerdos Posted October 6, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 8,713 Content Per Day: 1.20 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted October 6, 2004 DIME: One thing too, is that there is much controversy over the scripture I'm refering to that it could mean different things. So I'm even will to drop that point of the discussion as a fallacy of interpretation on my part. IT still, however, doesn't nullify an eternal security position. Yes, there is controversy today, but it wasn't always that way. The original church in Acts 2 all believed the same thing. Too bad we don't today. Eh, yes, there's always been controversy and divisions within the church. Maybe not over this issue, but over others. Gnosticism was one of the first hotly contested items that even Paul had to face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted October 6, 2004 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 4 Topic Count: 232 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 7,261 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 79 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/19/1959 Share Posted October 6, 2004 What Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneB Posted October 6, 2004 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 4 Topic Count: 232 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 7,261 Content Per Day: 0.96 Reputation: 79 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/19/1959 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Okay, SJ, I attempted to explain why I quoted the comments you made but perhaps you breezed past them. No biggie. Obviously you feel you were attacked by me so I do in all sincerity apologize and ask that we can continue on in christian love with the topic at hand. Bless you sister! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khristeeanos Posted October 6, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 109 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,278 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 29 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/07/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted October 6, 2004 DIME: One thing too, is that there is much controversy over the scripture I'm refering to that it could mean different things. So I'm even will to drop that point of the discussion as a fallacy of interpretation on my part. IT still, however, doesn't nullify an eternal security position. Yes, there is controversy today, but it wasn't always that way. The original church in Acts 2 all believed the same thing. Too bad we don't today. Eh, yes, there's always been controversy and divisions within the church. Maybe not over this issue, but over others. Gnosticism was one of the first hotly contested items that even Paul had to face. Not in Acts 2: Acts 2:42-44 They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. Everyone was filled with awe, and many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles. All the believers were together and had everything in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Khristeeanos Posted October 6, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 109 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,278 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 29 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/07/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted October 6, 2004 A good Scripture to discuss? Revelation 3:5. Revelation 3:5 He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels. (edited to remove quote tag - nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobTriez Posted October 6, 2004 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,478 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/23/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1972 Share Posted October 6, 2004 BTw, this is beginning to look like another witch hunt. "Joel said we could be wrong! He's a heretic" Noooooo, Joel said " I'm always right" THAT'S why the appearance of a "witch hunt". If Joel said "we" could be wrong, that's no biggie....I admit I can be wrong. See the difference ? BIG difference ? And FYI, I'm here as a poster, not a mod. Get off the "you should leave, you're a moderator" please That's not appropriate to say anyway ( even though I'm not offended by it ).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apothanein kerdos Posted October 6, 2004 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 8,713 Content Per Day: 1.20 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted October 6, 2004 BTw, this is beginning to look like another witch hunt. "Joel said we could be wrong! He's a heretic" Noooooo, Joel said " I'm always right" THAT'S why the appearance of a "witch hunt". If Joel said "we" could be wrong, that's no biggie....I admit I can be wrong. See the difference ? BIG difference ? And FYI, I'm here as a poster, not a mod. Get off the "you should leave, you're a moderator" please That's not appropriate to say anyway ( even though I'm not offended by it ).... Quote me where I said that bob. If you can, I'll give you a cookie. If not, then I think you're done. Now, do you have the integrity and fortitude to get back on the subject, or is this what I can expect from you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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