Waiting2BwithHim Posted November 14, 2011 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 248 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 373 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 113 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/18/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/10/1963 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I recently stumbled on to this question and people have different opinions on this subject. Was the Virgin Mary sinless or not? Some of the answers I have heard range from a Catholic view to what is in the Bible. Any thoughts here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I recently stumbled on to this question and people have different opinions on this subject. Was the Virgin Mary sinless or not? Some of the answers I have heard range from a Catholic view to what is in the Bible. Any thoughts here? May is not a virigin and she was never "sinless" while on earth. Mary ceased being a virgin after Jesus was born and she and Joseph had other children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajunluvie Posted November 14, 2011 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 221 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/06/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted November 14, 2011 (edited) Scripture does not say she was sinless nor that she never was a sinner. Scripture makes it clear that no one does good nor seek God. If you say that Mary was obedient then I would say yes because that lines up with Scripture that she obeyed the Lord and allowed herself to be used as a vessel to bear the Messiah who would be the Savior. But to say that Mary herself was sinless is over-reaching but if I remember correctly, it had to do with the Gnostic teachings that was alarming to people about Jesus's humanity/divinity if he was truly a man or if he did not have any sin within him and the response developed to those heretical teachings that Mary was sinless and therefore, no sin was passed to Jesus... Ergo, Jesus was sinless. Edited November 14, 2011 by Cajunluvie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted November 14, 2011 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 100 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,400 Content Per Day: 8.00 Reputation: 21,575 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Online Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I recently stumbled on to this question and people have different opinions on this subject. Was the Virgin Mary sinless or not? Some of the answers I have heard range from a Catholic view to what is in the Bible. Any thoughts here? Everyone is a sinner! All except Christ He bore our sins but had none of His own! Rom 3:23-24 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, NKJV it amazes me how exact something can be said and then still there is questions ... 'all we like sheep' .... Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted November 14, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted November 14, 2011 It's funny how people believe God needed a sinless mother in order to be sinless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He giveth more grace Posted November 14, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,049 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 267 Days Won: 9 Joined: 10/22/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 14, 2011 Luke 1:47-49 [Mary speaking] 47And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. 48For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden If God was Mary's Saviour, which he is, than she was in need of being saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldzimm Posted November 14, 2011 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 85 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,874 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 348 Days Won: 12 Joined: 03/10/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/08/1955 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I have always believed (and still do) that Jesus is the only sinless person to walk the face of the earth, for he was God in the flesh. We, like the Christians of the past are not sinless, but our goal is to sin less as we walk the walk Christ taught us to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Scripture does not say she was sinless nor that she never was a sinner. Scripture makes it clear that no one does good nor seek God. If you say that Mary was obedient then I would say yes because that lines up with Scripture that she obeyed the Lord and allowed herself to be used as a vessel to bear the Messiah who would be the Savior. Exactly. In fact, if the argument that Jesus was sinless because Mary was sinless, then Mary had to have a sinless mother as well, meaning that her mother had to have a sinless mother going back in an endless succession of emaculate conceptions. The sin nature is passed through the father. Jesus had no earthly father, but was conceived by the Holy Spirit. That is what made Him sinless; He was/is fully God and fully man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldust59 Posted November 14, 2011 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 989 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 124 Days Won: 6 Joined: 01/08/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/13/1959 Share Posted November 14, 2011 This quote from an old preacher stuck with me from my youth-----"You are not a sinner because you sin, you sin because you are a sinner." The revelation of that statement hit me years later, when I finally understood that 'sinner' is the state we are all born in. Mary was born in that same state, as were all her ancestors. Jesus was the only person ever that was not born in the fallen state of sinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He giveth more grace Posted November 14, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,049 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 267 Days Won: 9 Joined: 10/22/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted November 14, 2011 This quote from an old preacher stuck with me from my youth-----"You are not a sinner because you sin, you sin because you are a sinner." The revelation of that statement hit me years later, when I finally understood that 'sinner' is the state we are all born in. Mary was born in that same state, as were all her ancestors. Jesus was the only person ever that was not born in the fallen state of sinner. Thank you, I am glad someone said this, mainly the first sentence and the second is not far behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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