nebula Posted September 13, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted September 13, 2013 God made them naked, they stayed naked for their entire time in the garden, which was spent with God. Clearly God did not have an issue with their nudity. The issue with nudity is man's issue, not Gods. We will all stand naked before God...and none of us will care. If that is true, why is it mentioned in Revelation people will be given robes to wear? Revaluation is a book filled with figurative speech. it tells us a sword will come out of Jesus' mouth...do you think it will be a real sword? Scientifically, no. Now, do you think Jesus is in the buff? I believe Jesus is clothed in righteousness. I believe that Heaven is a spiritual realm, not a physical one. Thus Jesus would not be wearing clothing as we think of it. But that does not answer the question. Is He naked, by any understanding of the word or imagery? nakedness is a physical attribute, thus it does not apply OK, so what is your point with this in regards to the topic of this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDavis Posted September 13, 2013 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,740 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 183 Days Won: 7 Joined: 07/02/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/02/1964 Share Posted September 13, 2013 God made them naked, they stayed naked for their entire time in the garden, which was spent with God. Clearly God did not have an issue with their nudity. The issue with nudity is man's issue, not Gods. We will all stand naked before God...and none of us will care. If that is true, why is it mentioned in Revelation people will be given robes to wear? Revaluation is a book filled with figurative speech. it tells us a sword will come out of Jesus' mouth...do you think it will be a real sword? Scientifically, no. Now, do you think Jesus is in the buff? I believe Jesus is clothed in righteousness. I believe that Heaven is a spiritual realm, not a physical one. Thus Jesus would not be wearing clothing as we think of it. But that does not answer the question. Is He naked, by any understanding of the word or imagery? nakedness is a physical attribute, thus it does not apply OK, so what is your point with this in regards to the topic of this thread? I am not the one that brought this point in to the discussion. I am just responding to what people post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted September 13, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I am not the one that brought this point in to the discussion. I am just responding to what people post You mean, you like to stir the pot and see where it goes? You had no point to make with regards to the subject? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDavis Posted September 14, 2013 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,740 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 183 Days Won: 7 Joined: 07/02/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/02/1964 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I am not the one that brought this point in to the discussion. I am just responding to what people post You mean, you like to stir the pot and see where it goes? You had no point to make with regards to the subject? So...you bring up a passage in Revalation, I comment in it and then reply to direct questions and that is stirring the pot. How creative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I am not the one that brought this point in to the discussion. I am just responding to what people post You mean, you like to stir the pot and see where it goes? You had no point to make with regards to the subject? So...you bring up a passage in Revalation, I comment in it and then reply to direct questions and that is stirring the pot. How creative Actually Jesus is wearing clothes, JD. "Clothed in Righteousness" is a metaphorical statement regarding Jesus as completely righteous. Righteousness is not a garment in the literal sense. Revelation 1 and 19 describe the clothes Jesus is wearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDavis Posted September 14, 2013 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,740 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 183 Days Won: 7 Joined: 07/02/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/02/1964 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I am not the one that brought this point in to the discussion. I am just responding to what people post You mean, you like to stir the pot and see where it goes? You had no point to make with regards to the subject? So...you bring up a passage in Revalation, I comment in it and then reply to direct questions and that is stirring the pot. How creative Actually Jesus is wearing clothes, JD. "Clothed in Righteousness" is a metaphorical statement regarding Jesus as completely righteous. Righteousness is not a garment in the literal sense. Revelation 1 and 19 describe the clothes Jesus is wearing. Do you believe there is a literal sword coming out of the mouth of Jesus as described in chapter 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted September 14, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.94 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) I am not the one that brought this point in to the discussion. I am just responding to what people post You mean, you like to stir the pot and see where it goes? You had no point to make with regards to the subject? So...you bring up a passage in Revalation, I comment in it and then reply to direct questions and that is stirring the pot. How creative It "stirs the pot" when you throw in a comment that muddies the waters without a particular goal in mind - especially when it comes across as favoring one side over the other, and when confronted by the opposite side, the commenter denies such. It's frustrating to come to a conclusion with a serious discussion with such. Edited September 14, 2013 by nebula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDavis Posted September 14, 2013 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,740 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 183 Days Won: 7 Joined: 07/02/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/02/1964 Share Posted September 14, 2013 It "stirs the pot" when you throw in a comment that muddies the waters without a particular goal in mind. A comment without a goal merely muddies the waters, and it is very frustrating trying to work towards a resolution in a serious discussion with such. I don't know what comment you are speaking of, but I can think of none that I made that did not have a goal or were not part of the discussion started by someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest man Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Do you believe there is a literal sword coming out of the mouth of Jesus as described in chapter 1? If the sword isn't real, the clothes can't be real either..................right? John 19 23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took His garments and made four parts, to each soldier a part, and also the tunic. Now the tunic was without seam, woven from the top in one piece. 24 They said therefore among themselves, “Let us not tear it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be,” that the Scripture might be fulfilled which says: “They divided My garments among them,And for My clothing they cast lots.” Therefore the soldiers did these things. Why was Jesus wearing clothes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDavis Posted September 14, 2013 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,740 Content Per Day: 0.44 Reputation: 183 Days Won: 7 Joined: 07/02/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/02/1964 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Do you believe there is a literal sword coming out of the mouth of Jesus as described in chapter 1? If the sword isn't real, the clothes can't be real either..................right? John 19 23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took His garments and made four parts, to each soldier a part, and also the tunic. Now the tunic was without seam, woven from the top in one piece. 24 They said therefore among themselves, “Let us not tear it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be,” that the Scripture might be fulfilled which says: “They divided My garments among them,And for My clothing they cast lots.” Therefore the soldiers did these things. Why was Jesus wearing clothes? Jesus was in human form on this earth during this, there is nothing in this passage that is figurative, so there is nothing to lead one to believe the cloths are anything but literal. The passages in Rev are filled with figurative speech, and yet people want to grab one or two things out of all those figures of speech and say "those are literal" and the rest are not. I think this is a bad way of doing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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