Izzel Posted March 21, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 514 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 62 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/01/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1989 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Just as in the days of Noah, it shall be so at His coming. They bought, and sold, built, married and were given in marriage. ONLY 8 souls were saved from the water. True that Noah went through but one went up (rapture) The bride does not go through the tribulation, she has already been purified through Christ. Those without the oil will have to pass through the tribulation and stand the judgement. Did Noah go to heaven to escape the flood ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzel Posted March 21, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 514 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 62 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/01/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1989 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Just as in the days of Noah, it shall be so at His coming. They bought, and sold, built, married and were given in marriage. ONLY 8 souls were saved from the water. True that Noah went through but one went up (rapture) The bride does not go through the tribulation, she has already been purified through Christ. Those without the oil will have to pass through the tribulation and stand the judgement. That makes alot of sense. What about those that die without the oil ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Marv Posted March 21, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,135 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 1,091 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2014 Just as in the days of Noah, it shall be so at His coming. They bought, and sold, built, married and were given in marriage. ONLY 8 souls were saved from the water. True that Noah went through but one went up (rapture) The bride does not go through the tribulation, she has already been purified through Christ. Those without the oil will have to pass through the tribulation and stand the judgement. Did Noah go to heaven to escape the flood ? Izzel They were removed from harm. The "Ark" is a type of Christ, a refuge. The Rapture is a removal from harm, we meet Christ in the air, He has not touched His feet on earth, which is the Second Coming. Matt 24:36-, Look at what is said a comparison "As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the Ark, and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away (killed them all). That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. This is the coming for the Bride. One is taken, one is left. One needs to look at what is going on with the Seal, Trumpet and Bowl judgments. What is the environment going on at this time. A real nice time (a time to party-eat, drink and marry) or a real terrible time, a time when one cannot party-eat drink and marry). We are living in the days of Noah before the flood now. Everyone doing as he pleases. This environment will not be the same once the A/C comes on the scene, People we do as the A/C pleases. "As in the days before the Flood" There are two Resurrections; The First is for the Just, the Second is for the Unjust. Or put it another way; there is a Resurrection for the Just, and there is a Resurrection for the unjust. An individual is only Resurrected once. Scripture does not say all go into the Resurrection for the Just at the same time, and it does not say that those who go into the Resurrection for the Unjust go in at the same time. It is just like I always put my left shoe on last. In Christ Montana Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted March 21, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2014 Just as in the days of Noah, it shall be so at His coming. They bought, and sold, built, married and were given in marriage. ONLY 8 souls were saved from the water. True that Noah went through but one went up (rapture) The bride does not go through the tribulation, she has already been purified through Christ. Those without the oil will have to pass through the tribulation and stand the judgement. Did Noah go to heaven to escape the flood ? Izzel They were removed from harm. The "Ark" is a type of Christ, a refuge. The Rapture is a removal from harm, we meet Christ in the air, He has not touched His feet on earth, which is the Second Coming. Matt 24:36-, Look at what is said a comparison "As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the Ark, and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away (killed them all). That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. This is the coming for the Bride. One is taken, one is left. One needs to look at what is going on with the Seal, Trumpet and Bowl judgments. What is the environment going on at this time. A real nice time (a time to party-eat, drink and marry) or a real terrible time, a time when one cannot party-eat drink and marry). We are living in the days of Noah before the flood now. Everyone doing as he pleases. This environment will not be the same once the A/C comes on the scene, People we do as the A/C pleases. "As in the days before the Flood" There are two Resurrections; The First is for the Just, the Second is for the Unjust. Or put it another way; there is a Resurrection for the Just, and there is a Resurrection for the unjust. An individual is only Resurrected once. Scripture does not say all go into the Resurrection for the Just at the same time, and it does not say that those who go into the Resurrection for the Unjust go in at the same time. It is just like I always put my left shoe on last. In Christ Montana Marv Marv I thought Matthew 24:36 was the second coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Marv Posted March 21, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,135 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 1,091 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2014 Bopeep Matt 24:29 It is about the Second Coming. My point was us going into the air - Rapture (Jesus not touching His feet) which is different form Him touching His feet on the Mt of Olives. Yes Matt 24:29 is about the Second Coming, Yet Matt 24:36 and on is about the Rapture. We do not mourn when we see the Son of Man coming, We rejoice. In Christ Montana Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollinTHUNDER Posted March 21, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 83 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,985 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 433 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/23/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2014 Bopeep Matt 24:29 It is about the Second Coming. My point was us going into the air - Rapture (Jesus not touching His feet) which is different form Him touching His feet on the Mt of Olives. Yes Matt 24:29 is about the Second Coming, Yet Matt 24:36 and on is about the Rapture. We do not mourn when we see the Son of Man coming, We rejoice. In ChristMontana MarvThe tribes of the earth will mourn when they see the sign of the Son of man (rapture), not every tribe, tongue and nation. Don't forget, the ten tribes of Israel are still scattered into the nations of the earth. When the Jews see this sign, they will look up and know their redemption draws near, including the remnant in Judea that flee into the mountains.Matt. 24:29-31 is not Christ' physical second coming to the earth and nowhere do we see that His feet touch down on the mount of Olives. This is the rapture and the rapture only.Follow the clues given after the gathering of His elect into the parables. He is clearly coming to reward His servants, beginning with those who are ready (faithful servants). Two will be in the field, one will be taken and the other is left. Two women will be grinding at the mill, one will be taken and the other left.Your pre-trib (second coming) theory forces them to be the sheep and goats, which can not work. If the sheep are the saints taken, and the goats are destroyed, then who will be left for the saints to rule over? Or if you this some other way, please explain.Continue reading into Matt. 25 and you will see and understand who they are, His servants, both faithful and lazy, prepared and unprepared. Continue into the next parable of talents and you see the faithful servants being rewarded, but the lazy servant left in the outer darkness, where Satan is the prince of this dark world. They are the least of His brethren (martyrs), and the sheep will be allowed to enter the millennial kingdom based on how they ministered to them.You also claim the sheep and goat judgment occurs after the millennium, but in order for this to happen, the goats would have been dead and resurrected, but we don't see this in the parable, not even close. Furthermore, the disciples asked Christ for the sign of the end of the age (Matt.24:3), not the next age or the end of the millennium. We are still living in that same age of grace or the church age today.Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hindsfeet Posted March 21, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 201 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/16/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.” (Mt. 24:29-31) Here is a clear statement from our Lord Jesus Christ who said that He will be coming “immediately after the tribulation” and not before, so how can Christians be with Him in Heaven during the Great Tribulation? Immediately after the tribulation of *those days* which days? could be our current tribulation days, could be the first half of tribulation days, could be tribulation days following a rapture. It does not necessarily specify 'Great' tribulation, as it does specifically in matt 24:21, rev 2:22, and rev 7:14. Edited March 21, 2014 by Hindsfeet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hindsfeet Posted March 21, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 201 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/16/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2014 Revelation 20:4-6 tells us who is in the first resurrection. And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years. So who is this seated on the thrones and given judgement? I imagine the raptured Saints. "And they lived and reigned with Christ.." - they? The martyred trib saints? I thought raptured Saints would also live and reign 1k years with Christ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Marv Posted March 21, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,135 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 1,091 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2014 Thunder Matt 24:29 - Immediately after the distress of those days (what days?) Go back to v 21 - for there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now. When do these days of great distress begin? v.15 - When you see standing in the holy place. When do these days fo great distress end. at the Second Coming. Why is the sun darkened and the moon not giving off its light. Zech 14:6,7 - On that day, there will be no light, no cold or frost. It will be a unique day, without daytime or nighttime - a day known to the Lord. When evening comes there will be light. v.4 - On that day, his feet will stand on the Mt of Olives, v. 9 On that day there will be one Lord, and his name the only name. On that day is the beginning of the Mill. Zech is full of "On that day" We know right down to the day when your Rapture is, Yet Scripture says only the Father in Heaven knows. What gives? As in the days of Noah before the flood; These days will not exist during this time of great distress, so no eating, drinking, marrying or giving in marriage will occur at this time, but if one looks at Rev 6:15 - men hid themselves in caves and among the rocks and wanted to die (yet is this a time of eating, drinking and giving in marriage); It will be every person for himself. total chaos. Yet when the Son of Man comes for His Bride, it will be a time of eating, drinking and marrying for the rest of the world. It can't happen when you say it will happen. It has to happen well before the A/D as spoken by the prophet Daniel and the time of great distress. In Christ Montana Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hindsfeet Posted March 21, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 201 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 49 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/16/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 21, 2014 Just as in the days of Noah, it shall be so at His coming. They bought, and sold, built, married and were given in marriage. ONLY 8 souls were saved from the water. True that Noah went through but one went up (rapture) The bride does not go through the tribulation, she has already been purified through Christ. Those without the oil will have to pass through the tribulation and stand the judgement. Did Noah go to heaven to escape the flood ? No, but Enoch did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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