justfaith Posted August 21, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 309 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 70 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/18/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted August 21, 2014 Jesse Christ is the foundation of the Church/ His Body, He is the cornerstone which the Church stands on. The New Jerusalem is not the Church. Another thing about the 144,000. These are not the Church, if so the Boat was full 2000 years ago, and then we have nothing. These are special Jews, appointed and sealed to do their work during the Mill. They are not sealed for what they might do during the 70th Week; But for what they will do during the 1000 years. They follow the Lamb, and they sing a new song. In Christ Montana Marv Why do you include the 70 th week in the book of revelation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jesse Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Jesse Christ is the foundation of the Church/ His Body, He is the cornerstone which the Church stands on. The New Jerusalem is not the Church. Another thing about the 144,000. These are not the Church, if so the Boat was full 2000 years ago, and then we have nothing. These are special Jews, appointed and sealed to do their work during the Mill. They are not sealed for what they might do during the 70th Week; But for what they will do during the 1000 years. They follow the Lamb, and they sing a new song. In Christ Montana Marv Why do you include the 70 th week in the book of revelation ? Can you show me where? jesse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Marv Posted August 22, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,135 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 1,091 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted August 22, 2014 Jesse Christ is the foundation of the Church/ His Body, He is the cornerstone which the Church stands on. The New Jerusalem is not the Church. Another thing about the 144,000. These are not the Church, if so the Boat was full 2000 years ago, and then we have nothing. These are special Jews, appointed and sealed to do their work during the Mill. They are not sealed for what they might do during the 70th Week; But for what they will do during the 1000 years. They follow the Lamb, and they sing a new song. In Christ Montana Marv Why do you include the 70 th week in the book of revelation ? Can you show me where? jesse. Jesse Matt 24:15 - So when you see standing in the holy place the abomination that causes desolation, spoken of through the prophet Daniel, let the reader understand; Flee. Dan 9:24 - Seventy Sevens have been decreed for your people and your holy city to:::.. v.27 - He will confirm a covenant with may for one seven. In the middle of the seven, he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation... There are two 42 month divisions of the 70th Week. Rev 13:5 - The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty two months. Rev 12:14 - so that she might fly to a place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times, and half a time; (42 Months) Israel as a nation has not completed the 6 tasks of Dan 9:24.. 7 years, Two 42 Month periods. In Christ Montana Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfaith Posted August 22, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 309 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 70 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/18/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted August 22, 2014 Jesse Christ is the foundation of the Church/ His Body, He is the cornerstone which the Church stands on. The New Jerusalem is not the Church. Another thing about the 144,000. These are not the Church, if so the Boat was full 2000 years ago, and then we have nothing. These are special Jews, appointed and sealed to do their work during the Mill. They are not sealed for what they might do during the 70th Week; But for what they will do during the 1000 years. They follow the Lamb, and they sing a new song. In Christ Montana Marv Why do you include the 70 th week in the book of revelation ? Can you show me where? jesse. Jesse Matt 24:15 - So when you see standing in the holy place the abomination that causes desolation, spoken of through the prophet Daniel, let the reader understand; Flee. Dan 9:24 - Seventy Sevens have been decreed for your people and your holy city to:::.. v.27 - He will confirm a covenant with may for one seven. In the middle of the seven, he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation... There are two 42 month divisions of the 70th Week. Rev 13:5 - The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty two months. Rev 12:14 - so that she might fly to a place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times, and half a time; (42 Months) Israel as a nation has not completed the 6 tasks of Dan 9:24.. 7 years, Two 42 Month periods. In Christ Montana Marv This not what the bible says the 70 wk is not in revelation this is man made teaching What two 42 months period ? there is only one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jesse Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Revelation 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.Revelation 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.Revelation 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven. They are the redeemed among men. The are them that follow the Lamb where soever he goeth. They are still alive to day. Because of rev.7. Dont hurt the earth untill we have sealed them. jesse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfaith Posted August 22, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 309 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 70 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/18/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted August 22, 2014 Revelation 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.Revelation 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.Revelation 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven. They are the redeemed among men. The are them that follow the Lamb where soever he goeth. They are still alive to day. Because of rev.7. Dont hurt the earth untill we have sealed them. jesse. Are you saying only the 144k are sealed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jesse Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 There will be only two resurrection one at Jesus second coming for the righteous and the other after the 1000 years for the wicked to be judge John 5:28-29King James Version (KJV) 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. Acts 24:15King James Version (KJV) 15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust. Daniel 12 King James Version (KJV) 1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 1.The first resurrection, only the ones in christ. After the test and passed. 2.The second resurrection, all the dead; the just and the unjust.The sheep and the goats. judged by the books. jesse. Dear Jesse the dead and alive in Christ are resurrected and caught up respectfully, where did the second set of just persons came from after the 1000 years ? 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18King James Version (KJV) 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. Justfiath. I love questions. 1. At the second coming/resurrection. All in the truth,in the graves or alive, will be resurrected. The first fruits first. The rest of the dead in graves, and armageddon survivors will not be resurrected. 2. They will multiply during the thousand year reign, out side the square/kingdom.(rev.21:17). Only the chosen jews will be inside the square/kingdom(paradise for the jews). (A kingdom for the saints).saints will rule. 3.After the thousand years: The second judement. The resurrection of all people on earth, of all generations and all religions. Judged by their works,by the books.(not by Christ). 4.The sheep put on the right, and the goats on the left. The goats cast in the fire. The sheep changed into spirit. 5.All spirit now: The corrupted earth(physically), will be melted; and a new earth formed. jesse. Who is a saint ? Does not the righteous change into a spiritual body at Jesus second coming Why wait until the dividing of the sheep and goat ? Are you saying the new city will be on the earth during the 1000 yrs ? Thanks Saints are the resurrected.angels are also called saints for they are holy. The sheep on the right and the goats on the left,not at the coming; because there is no dividing during the second coming. Only the true christians will be resurrected and the rest left behind. The thousand year kingdom will be in israel;Jerusalem as the capitol city. Jerusalem once more as paradise for the jews in the flesh.They will be at rest,no pain no tears no wars.lions eat straw. But a kingdom for the saints and Christ.They will rule as kings and priests. jesse. To whom is this speaking to as the priest the Jews or Gentiles ? thanks 61 The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; 2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn; 3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that he might be glorified. 4 And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations. 5 And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers. 6 But ye shall be named the Priests of the Lord: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves. The church foundation is build on twelve jews.rev 21. They shall build houses and plant vineyards and eat the fruits there of. They shall be at rest. They shall be the priests and ministers, and teach the gentiles living outside the square. The gentiles whom they have served shall now serve them. The resurrected saints shall be their teachers,and Christ king of kings. jesse. Just faith. 0not clear enough. After armageddon,there will be survivors of the gentiles jews,christians missed out on the resurrection. They will live outside the square,and will multiply,just like the chosen jews inside. They also will multiply,like the stars in the heavens. saints teach the jews: jews teach the gentiles.The jews are still in the flesh.also the gentiles. jesse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Marv Posted August 22, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,135 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 1,091 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted August 22, 2014 Jesse Christ is the foundation of the Church/ His Body, He is the cornerstone which the Church stands on. The New Jerusalem is not the Church. Another thing about the 144,000. These are not the Church, if so the Boat was full 2000 years ago, and then we have nothing. These are special Jews, appointed and sealed to do their work during the Mill. They are not sealed for what they might do during the 70th Week; But for what they will do during the 1000 years. They follow the Lamb, and they sing a new song. In Christ Montana Marv Why do you include the 70 th week in the book of revelation ? Can you show me where? jesse. Jesse Matt 24:15 - So when you see standing in the holy place the abomination that causes desolation, spoken of through the prophet Daniel, let the reader understand; Flee. Dan 9:24 - Seventy Sevens have been decreed for your people and your holy city to:::.. v.27 - He will confirm a covenant with may for one seven. In the middle of the seven, he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation... There are two 42 month divisions of the 70th Week. Rev 13:5 - The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty two months. Rev 12:14 - so that she might fly to a place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times, and half a time; (42 Months) Israel as a nation has not completed the 6 tasks of Dan 9:24.. 7 years, Two 42 Month periods. In Christ Montana Marv This not what the bible says the 70 wk is not in revelation this is man made teaching What two 42 months period ? there is only one Sorry The 70th Week is seven years. It all begins in Dan 9:24 Seventy Sevens are decreed for your people (Israel) and your holy city (Jerusalem) to perform 6 tasks. The 69th Week ended at the death of Jesus. Now we are waiting for the final Week to start. Dan 9:27 - And he shall confirm a covenant with many for One Seven; in the middle of the Seven he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering and set up set up the A/D on the wing of the temple. Now is the wait; Who will be the one to make this covenant. Now one much see what Christ said is to come: Mat 24:15 - When you see standing in the holy place the A/D as spoken by the prophet Daniel, Let those in Judea Flee to the mountains. This is the midpoint of the final 7 years When does this 70th Week begin; 2 Thes 2:3 - Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day (the beginning of the 70th Week), until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed. Rev 13 - Then one of the heads of the beast seamed to have a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was astonished and followed the beast; he exercised his authority for 42 months (1/2 of a seven). The whole world follows this beast for 42 months, a time of peace. The last 42 months is a time of extreme tribulation or distress and the wrath of God. In Rev 42 months is related to 3 different events; 1. The length of time the lawless one rules. 2. When,the duration of time Satan chases the woman (Israel), and 3. The duration of time the two witnesses prophesy. Then one must insert the Seal, Trumpet and Bowl judgments. In Christ Montana Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justfaith Posted August 22, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 309 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 70 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/18/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted August 22, 2014 Jesse Christ is the foundation of the Church/ His Body, He is the cornerstone which the Church stands on. The New Jerusalem is not the Church. Another thing about the 144,000. These are not the Church, if so the Boat was full 2000 years ago, and then we have nothing. These are special Jews, appointed and sealed to do their work during the Mill. They are not sealed for what they might do during the 70th Week; But for what they will do during the 1000 years. They follow the Lamb, and they sing a new song. In Christ Montana Marv Why do you include the 70 th week in the book of revelation ? Can you show me where? jesse. Jesse Matt 24:15 - So when you see standing in the holy place the abomination that causes desolation, spoken of through the prophet Daniel, let the reader understand; Flee. Dan 9:24 - Seventy Sevens have been decreed for your people and your holy city to:::.. v.27 - He will confirm a covenant with may for one seven. In the middle of the seven, he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation... There are two 42 month divisions of the 70th Week. Rev 13:5 - The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty two months. Rev 12:14 - so that she might fly to a place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times, and half a time; (42 Months) Israel as a nation has not completed the 6 tasks of Dan 9:24.. 7 years, Two 42 Month periods. In Christ Montana Marv This not what the bible says the 70 wk is not in revelation this is man made teaching What two 42 months period ? there is only one Sorry The 70th Week is seven years. It all begins in Dan 9:24 Seventy Sevens are decreed for your people (Israel) and your holy city (Jerusalem) to perform 6 tasks. The 69th Week ended at the death of Jesus. Now we are waiting for the final Week to start. Dan 9:27 - And he shall confirm a covenant with many for One Seven; in the middle of the Seven he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering and set up set up the A/D on the wing of the temple. Now is the wait; Who will be the one to make this covenant. Now one much see what Christ said is to come: Mat 24:15 - When you see standing in the holy place the A/D as spoken by the prophet Daniel, Let those in Judea Flee to the mountains. This is the midpoint of the final 7 years When does this 70th Week begin; 2 Thes 2:3 - Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day (the beginning of the 70th Week), until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed. Rev 13 - Then one of the heads of the beast seamed to have a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was astonished and followed the beast; he exercised his authority for 42 months (1/2 of a seven). The whole world follows this beast for 42 months, a time of peace. The last 42 months is a time of extreme tribulation or distress and the wrath of God. In Rev 42 months is related to 3 different events; 1. The length of time the lawless one rules. 2. When,the duration of time Satan chases the woman (Israel), and 3. The duration of time the two witnesses prophesy. Then one must insert the Seal, Trumpet and Bowl judgments. In Christ Montana Marv The He is Jesus and the covenant is the new covenant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Marv Posted August 22, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,135 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 1,091 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted August 22, 2014 Justfaith Why then did those in Judea not flee to the mountains at Christs Death. And what was the great distress to come. In Christ Montana Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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