The First Blood Moon 4/15/14 - Passover

[Guest DRS81]

Yes I saw the blood moon at 3:00 am. Yet most of these blood moons will not even be seen in the Promised Land, and I'm still wondering which prophecy was fulfilled or will be. What prophecy was fulfilled in 1493 and the tetrads before then? Why was there no blood moons when Hitler killed over six million Jews?

 

Cheers

 

Hi Thunder and Blessings. Being that the blood moons can be seen all across America and not Israel, I think, means that judgment is coming for America. But that's just a random theory. That's the thing Thunder, we just have to wait and see in regards to prophecy being fulfilled like Psalm 83 or Ezekiel 38 in such. You have to understand something though, much prophecy and history has already been fulfilled in the Bible. To really understand end times, you would need to learn about how many prophecies are left to be fulfilled. And it's not many, that's for sure....

 

In regards to 1493 and Hitler and blood moons, you might be asking the wrong questions here. I don't know why there weren't blood moons in the holocaust, but there were when the Jews were persecuted in 1493. Maybe we don't have to know because God's ways are not our ways. Thunder, instead of looking at the why's of God, why he didn't do this or that, look at what he's already shown us. Be amazed at what history shows us. 1493, 1948, 1967. Study the signs of what God has given us instead of focusing on what he hasn't shown us. What do you see happening in 1493, 1948 and 1967, events that affected Israel.

 

The Spanish inquisition wasn't prophecy, rather it was a part of Israel's history. And history when being fulfilled results in prophecy some time in the latter future, kind of like a chain reaction. This had to occur for that to occur and for that to happen so this could happen 50 years later. God, the spanish inquisition, the persecution of Jews and Christopher Columbus all have to do with history in 1493. Israel being God's promised Land is a fact. A lot of people don't understand that, and that's a big part of understanding the Bible and God. This history 522 years ago is a result of why Israel is where they are now, leading up to prophecy being fulfilled 50 years later.

 

History produces prophecy, like milk produces ice cream, cause and effect. History is the cause and prophecy is the effect and result. The word 'Tetrads' specifically do not necessarily have to be in scripture to make it biblical. All we have to do is look at history to read God's signs in the heavens. There is however, much scripture that points to that, looking up into the heavens for signs. Fortunately for the world, God gave us high powered technology to trace tetrads now, in the past and future...and he gave us disciples of Christ to write books on it. The question is, are we listening as John Hagee puts it. Take a look at these two scriptures, and what do you see?...

 

Luke 16:31 "He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'"

 

Luke 21:25-28 “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

 

[rollinTHUNDER]

Yes I saw the blood moon at 3:00 am. Yet most of these blood moons will not even be seen in the Promised Land, and I'm still wondering which prophecy was fulfilled or will be. What prophecy was fulfilled in 1493 and the tetrads before then? Why was there no blood moons when Hitler killed over six million Jews?

Cheers

Hi Thunder and Blessings. Being that the blood moons can be seen all across America and not Israel, I think, means that judgment is coming for America. But that's just a random theory. That's the thing Thunder, we just have to wait and see in regards to prophecy being fulfilled like Psalm 83 or Ezekiel 38 in such. You have to understand something though, much prophecy and history has already been fulfilled in the Bible. To really understand end times, you would need to learn about how many prophecies are left to be fulfilled. And it's not many, that's for sure....

In regards to 1493 and Hitler and blood moons, you might be asking the wrong questions here. I don't know why there weren't blood moons in the holocaust, but there were when the Jews were persecuted in 1493. Maybe we don't have to know because God's ways are not our ways. Thunder, instead of looking at the why's of God, why he didn't do this or that, look at what he's already shown us. Be amazed at what history shows us. 1493, 1948, 1967. Study the signs of what God has given us instead of focusing on what he hasn't shown us. What do you see happening in 1493, 1948 and 1967, events that affected Israel.

The Spanish inquisition wasn't prophecy, rather it was a part of Israel's history. And history when being fulfilled results in prophecy some time in the latter future, kind of like a chain reaction. This had to occur for that to occur and for that to happen so this could happen 50 years later. God, the spanish inquisition, the persecution of Jews and Christopher Columbus all have to do with history in 1493. Israel being God's promised Land is a fact. A lot of people don't understand that, and that's a big part of understanding the Bible and God. This history 522 years ago is a result of why Israel is where they are now, leading up to prophecy being fulfilled 50 years later.

History produces prophecy, like milk produces ice cream, cause and effect. History is the cause and prophecy is the effect and result. The word 'Tetrads' specifically do not necessarily have to be in scripture to make it biblical. All we have to do is look at history to read God's signs in the heavens. There is however, much scripture that points to that, looking up into the heavens for signs. Fortunately for the world, God gave us high powered technology to trace tetrads now, in the past and future...and he gave us disciples of Christ to write books on it. The question is, are we listening as John Hagee puts it. Take a look at these two scriptures, and what do you see?...

I think you have this backwards, brother. It is God who has created the end from the beginning and He has spoken through His Holy Spirit to His Holy Prophets certain events that will occur in the future. It is only after these events are fulfilled that history enters the picture. We have been given signs in the heavens to look for, but none of these signs have anything to do with the tetrad blood moons and no written prophecy connects or records any significant events relating to them.

 

Luke 16:31 "He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'"

Luke 21:25-28 “There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

The tetrads you are pointing to are not written in the scriptures. There are other signs that we are given in scripture that are not so vague, and these are the ones we should be mindful of. Let's take a look at some more specific signs we should be looking for.

Matthew 24:29-31

Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mark 13:24-27

But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.

26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

Joel 2:31

The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.

Revelation 6:12-14

And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

Revelation 12:1-2

Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. 2 Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.

Revelation 12:3-4a

And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. 4 His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth.

Cheers

[Guest DRS81]

We have been given signs in the heavens to look for, but none of these signs have anything to do with the tetrad blood moons and no written prophecy connects or records any significant events relating to them.

 

No you're wrong, you completely disregarded everything I said. The fact of the matter is, we don't know if these future blood moons will produce history for Israel or fulfill prophecy. You had said, "but none of these signs have anything to do with the tetrad blood moons." The correct way to say that is all the signs in regards to Israel in the past have everything to do with the tetrad blood moons.

 

The tetrads you are pointing to are not written in the scriptures. There are other signs that we are given in scripture that are not so vague, and these are the ones we should be mindful of. Let's take a look at some more specific signs we should be looking for.

 

Again, you are missing the whole point of what I said in my post. Again, the fact of the matter is, we don't know if these future blood moons will produce history for Israel or fulfill prophecy.

[rollinTHUNDER]

We have been given signs in the heavens to look for, but none of these signs have anything to do with the tetrad blood moons and no written prophecy connects or records any significant events relating to them.

 

No you're wrong, you completely disregarded everything I said. The fact of the matter is, we don't know if these future blood moons will produce history for Israel or fulfill prophecy. You had said, "but none of these signs have anything to do with the tetrad blood moons." The correct way to say that is all the signs in regards to Israel in the past have everything to do with the tetrad blood moons.

 

We can agree, then, on the fact that "we don't know" what these blood moons will bring, if anything at all. I don't believe the blood moons themselves can produce anything and they are not connected to any scriptures. We know the written prophecies will be fulfilled regardless of these blood moons. We are approaching a time when many prophecies will come to pass and they do not depend on these tetrads.

If you truly believe that these tetrads are connected to Bible prophecy, then you should be able to tell us which prophecies they are pointing to, otherwise you can just wait for any prophecy to be fulfilled and then throw a blanket over it after the fact, saying this is the result of the blood moons. But I'll say it again, history does not create prophecy, it only confirms that God's Word is truth.

Cheers

[Guest DRS81]

We can agree, then, on the fact that "we don't know" what these blood moons will bring, if anything at all. I don't believe the blood moons themselves can produce anything and they are not connected to any scriptures. We know the written prophecies will be fulfilled regardless of these blood moons. We are approaching a time when many prophecies will come to pass and they do not depend on these tetrads.

 

But I'll say it again, history does not create prophecy, it only confirms that God's Word is truth.

Cheers

 

 

Yes, we can both agree we don't know what they will bring yet. But History does create prophecy and it also confirms that God's Word is truth.

[OneLight]

How does a past fact produce a future event?  This is not prophecy, but probability.   Prophecy is a word from God about future events.  History can only show that He was correct, it doe snot move God to predict anything.

[Guest DRS81]

How does a past fact produce a future event?  This is not prophecy, but probability.   Prophecy is a word from God about future events.  History can only show that He was correct, it doe snot move God to predict anything.

 

Past Fact: Jesus was born in Bethlehem as the son of God which was a part of history

Prophecy Fulfilled: Jesus was resurrected by the Father which was a part of prophecy coming true.

Without the history of Jesus being born, he would never of fulfilled prophecy of being resurrected.

Same for the blood moons, without the history of 1948, the history of 1967 would of never came true.

 

History can only show that He was correct, it does not move God to predict anything.

 

What does this mean?

[OneLight]

How does a past fact produce a future event?  This is not prophecy, but probability.   Prophecy is a word from God about future events.  History can only show that He was correct, it doe snot move God to predict anything.

 

Past Fact: Jesus was born in Bethlehem as the son of God which was a part of history

Prophecy Fulfilled: Jesus was resurrected by the Father which was a part of prophecy coming true.

Without the history of Jesus being born, he would never of fulfilled prophecy of being resurrected.

Same for the blood moons, without the history of 1948, the history of 1967 would of never came true.

You stated above "But History does create prophecy" and this is not true. History does not create prophecy. History either confirms the prophecy is of God, being fulfilled, or not, proven to be false by not happening when and how it was stated to happen.

History can only show that He was correct, it does not move God to predict anything.

 

What does this mean?

See above

[Guest DRS81]

You stated above "But History does create prophecy" and this is not true. History does not create prophecy. History either confirms the prophecy is of God, being fulfilled, or not, proven to be false by not happening when and how it was stated to happen.

 

I understand what you're saying OneLight. Whether the 2014-15 blood moons create prophecy is up for debate, but it will definitely fulfill and create a part of history. That's a guarantee.

 

For example, the history that is made in 2014-15 might fulfill prophecy in 2017. Nobody knows though.

[missmuffet]

 

You stated above "But History does create prophecy" and this is not true. History does not create prophecy. History either confirms the prophecy is of God, being fulfilled, or not, proven to be false by not happening when and how it was stated to happen.

 

I understand what you're saying OneLight. Whether the 2014-15 blood moons create prophecy is up for debate, but it will definitely fulfill and create a part of history. That's a guarantee.

 

For example, the history that is made in 2014-15 might fulfill prophecy in 2017. Nobody knows though.

 

That is a guarantee hu? I sure don't know what the future holds.